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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:48:11 PM EST
BEIJING (Reuters) — China is sending civilian militias to help secure the border it shares with North Korea, state media said, in the wake of two reported killings of Chinese citizens by North Koreans that could strain ties between Pyongyang and its sole major ally.

The China Defence News said on Wednesday the government had established a civilian-military defense system in the Yanbian prefecture of Jilin province. Yanbian shares a border of about 500 km (310 miles) with North Korea.

The government has also "guided the establishment of militia patrols" to guard border villages. Every 10 neighboring households would have their own border security group and there would be 24-hour video surveillance, the newspaper said.

Last week, China said it had lodged a protest with North Korea after media reported that a North Korean soldier had killed four people during a robbery in the Chinese border city of Helong late last month.

An unnamed North Korean base, located within eyesight across the frozen Tumen river, may be responsible for as many as 20 killings, one official told the Beijing News. Military newspaper China Defence News, which reported the developments, described the situation as "complicated."

State media has raised questions about the China-North Korea relationship, saying that the Chinese government "should not be too accommodating".

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Are they killing Chinese citizens trying to smuggle stuff like DVD's and flash drives with movies and television shows into North Korea? I know that to be a issue on that part of the border
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What are they arming them with?
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Harsh language
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Originally Posted By Apec:
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Per the article , or are these norks?
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NKs are the illegal aliens for China
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Are those PPKs? Or 22s? lol
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Originally Posted By Osborne:


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Apec:
What are they arming them with?


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg


They ought to do fine against starving savage bastards with AK's and grenades.
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Originally Posted By Osborne:


Per the article , or are these norks?
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Apec:
What are they arming them with?


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg


Dude second from the left....
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
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The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.

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The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.

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Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Are they killing Chinese citizens trying to smuggle stuff like DVD's and flash drives with movies and television shows into North Korea? I know that to be a issue on that part of the border


The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.




So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

Link Posted: 1/16/2015 10:42:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Osborne:


Per the article , or are these norks?
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Apec:


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg


Norinco Dynamics
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Originally Posted By Osborne:


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Apec:
What are they arming them with?


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg


The fuck are those tiny things and why is the guy second from the left so excited to shoot one?
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 10:46:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:


They ought to do fine against starving savage bastards with AK's and grenades.
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Apec:
What are they arming them with?


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg


They ought to do fine against starving savage bastards with AK's and grenades.


Yep.. He's the cool one, and has it all worked out.

The two on the ends look like they would actually shoot.
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Originally Posted By Osborne:


So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/border-wall/pict34.jpg
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Are they killing Chinese citizens trying to smuggle stuff like DVD's and flash drives with movies and television shows into North Korea? I know that to be a issue on that part of the border


The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.



So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/border-wall/pict34.jpg


According to Chinese news the family was killed in a town in Jilin, which borders North Korea.


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According to Chinese news the family was killed in a town in Jilin, which borders North Korea.

http://www.map-of-china.co.uk/maps/jilin.gif
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Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Are they killing Chinese citizens trying to smuggle stuff like DVD's and flash drives with movies and television shows into North Korea? I know that to be a issue on that part of the border


The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.



So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/border-wall/pict34.jpg


According to Chinese news the family was killed in a town in Jilin, which borders North Korea.

http://www.map-of-china.co.uk/maps/jilin.gif


So how did the North Korean soldiers do it I wonder , I'm guessing the town has a border crossing.
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So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/border-wall/pict34.jpg
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Are they killing Chinese citizens trying to smuggle stuff like DVD's and flash drives with movies and television shows into North Korea? I know that to be a issue on that part of the border


The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.




So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/border-wall/pict34.jpg




Folks need to quit the Tom Clancy novels, China wants nothing to do with it's retard neighbors, bad for image and growth. NK is nothing but a huge liability, it is worth nothing to them.
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Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:




Folks need to quit the Tom Clancy novels, China wants nothing to do with it's retard neighbors, bad for image and growth. NK is nothing but a huge liability, it is worth nothing to them.
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Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Are they killing Chinese citizens trying to smuggle stuff like DVD's and flash drives with movies and television shows into North Korea? I know that to be a issue on that part of the border


The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.




So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/border-wall/pict34.jpg




Folks need to quit the Tom Clancy novels, China wants nothing to do with it's retard neighbors, bad for image and growth. NK is nothing but a huge liability, it is worth nothing to them.



If I'm not mistaken North Korea put that up to stop the smuggling of goods into their country, of stuff like flash drives and dvds of western shows and movies. But yeah it seems like China is getting pretty tired of them lol.
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Originally Posted By Osborne:


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Apec:
What are they arming them with?


Per the article , or are these norks?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/549ada09ecad044f558b4568-1200-924/ap03071004889-1.jpg

Those look to be actual chicom cops, not militia men.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:07:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sodie:
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If they are lucky, they'll have safe transit to South Korea. The unlucky ones are sent back to NK to be torture and later kill. China is the only way for North Koreans to get to South Korea. They are not planing to live in China.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:12:31 PM EST
North Korea will piss off it's only benefactor in the world.


A few dozen divisions of Chinese would swing through that shithole in a week.
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If I'm not mistaken North Korea put that up to stop the smuggling of goods into their country, of stuff like flash drives and dvds of western shows and movies. But yeah it seems like China is getting pretty tired of them lol.
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Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Are they killing Chinese citizens trying to smuggle stuff like DVD's and flash drives with movies and television shows into North Korea? I know that to be a issue on that part of the border


The latest victims were a family of 3, a 64-year-old man and his 60-year-old wife, and their 25-year-old son. Killed them and stole two mobile phones, about 500 yuan (US $80), and a handbag.




So were the victims on the North Korean side? Theres a fence on the border there now there now....

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/border-wall/pict34.jpg




Folks need to quit the Tom Clancy novels, China wants nothing to do with it's retard neighbors, bad for image and growth. NK is nothing but a huge liability, it is worth nothing to them.



If I'm not mistaken North Korea put that up to stop the smuggling of goods into their country, of stuff like flash drives and dvds of western shows and movies. But yeah it seems like China is getting pretty tired of them lol.

You can't put a stop to it. South Koreans are sending everything including money (US dollar) via balloon drops. Smuggling illegal products by North Korean deflectors is a 24/7 job. These deflectors goals is to see the NK government fall. They use China to get North Koreans deflectors to South Korea. They also use China to get information out of North Korea.

There is good documentary on North Korea. I believe it called Frontline: North Korea or something like that. It is made by PBS.
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You can't put a stop to it. South Koreans are sending everything including money (US dollar) via balloon drops. Smuggling illegal products by North Korean deflectors is a 24/7 job. These deflectors goals is to see the NK government fall. They use China to get North Koreans deflectors to South Korea. They also use China to get information out of North Korea.

There is good documentary on North Korea. I believe Frontline: North Korea or something like that. It is made by PBS.
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Originally Posted By LGK:

Originally Posted By Raptor937:
Originally Posted By Osborne:




Folks need to quit the Tom Clancy novels, China wants nothing to do with it's retard neighbors, bad for image and growth. NK is nothing but a huge liability, it is worth nothing to them.



If I'm not mistaken North Korea put that up to stop the smuggling of goods into their country, of stuff like flash drives and dvds of western shows and movies. But yeah it seems like China is getting pretty tired of them lol.

You can't put a stop to it. South Koreans are sending everything including money (US dollar) via balloon drops. Smuggling illegal products by North Korean deflectors is a 24/7 job. These deflectors goals is to see the NK government fall. They use China to get North Koreans deflectors to South Korea. They also use China to get information out of North Korea.

There is good documentary on North Korea. I believe Frontline: North Korea or something like that. It is made by PBS.



haha, thats the documentary i've been referencing my info from!
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Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:
North Korea will piss off it's only benefactor in the world.


A few dozen divisions of Chinese would swing through that shithole in a week.
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The Chinese likely wouldn't even bother. They'd just stop feeding and fueling them.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:33:27 PM EST
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There are a lot of covert organizations (foreign governments and private parties) operating on the Chinese/North Korean broader. The Chinese government knows about this but have no power to stop them from operating because of bribes and such.

These organizations design to get information and deflectors out of North Korea. China have tried to curtail their operations by first building a fence. Now a large contingent of militias are in the area. This isn't about sending a message to the North Koreans. The message is design to tell these covert organizations to stop what they are doing in China.
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What covert organizations exactly? By deflector you mean defector right?
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Originally Posted By LGK:

If they are lucky, they'll have safe transit to South Korea. The unlucky ones are sent back to NK to be torture and later kill. China is the only way for North Koreans to get to South Korea. They are not planing to live in China.
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Originally Posted By Sodie:
NKs are the illegal aliens for China

If they are lucky, they'll have safe transit to South Korea. The unlucky ones are sent back to NK to be torture and later kill. China is the only way for North Koreans to get to South Korea. They are not planing to live in China.

Sometimes North Koreans are held as slaves by Chinese or Russian business owners and Nork women are forced into sex slavery. Theyre really fucked unless they get to the South Korean embassy or manage to get further south to Thailand
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