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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:08:56 AM EDT
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FB link Knowing more force was needed to pluck this 9,000lb truck out of the mud he backed up a few feet to get a better start. That turned out to be too much stress for the ball hitch when the extra tension was created by the force of the pull it ripped the drop down portion of the hitch off of the truck, sending it and the strap directly towards Ryans truck smashing through the windshield, directly where Ryan was in the Driver seat. The force was so great it ripped through the windshield and bent the steering wheel before ultimately striking Ryan in the face, ending his life. Guys, don't yank on leveraged things. And don't yank on another car without a blanket or something similar to help direct broken parts to the ground. Poor guy. 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:10:09 AM EDT
[#1]
This is why you put something on the strap or cable.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:10:46 AM EDT
[#2]
May he RIP.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:11:00 AM EDT
[#3]
Stupid hurts and sometimes kills.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:12:35 AM EDT
[#4]
Darwin gets one.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:12:38 AM EDT
[#5]
That sucks.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:12:55 AM EDT
[#6]
I have had a couple people try to get me to hook up to a ball...
No, here... take my solid D-ring hitch and stick it in your receiver, thanks. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:14:12 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why you put something on the strap or cable. and you use a D-ring, soft shackle, and a rope / strap designed for kinetic recovery |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:14:34 AM EDT
[#8]
Saw a tow pintle get ripped off a M113.
Stupid can kill. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:15:25 AM EDT
[#9]
Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:16:36 AM EDT
[#10]
Ouch.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:17:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_2_jpeg-2469388.JPG Good Greif... This has been going around the offroad pages the last couple days but this is the first time I have seem the hitch. I thought the ball just broke off as usual. That's a shit ton of leverage... No wonder it broke. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:17:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sucks. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:18:52 AM EDT
[#13]
A truck buried in the mud is way over the weight ratings of a hitch like that.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:19:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good Greif... This has been going around the offroad pages the last couple days but this is the first time I have seem the hitch. I thought the ball just broke off as usual. That's a shit ton of leverage... No wonder it broke. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_2_jpeg-2469388.JPG Good Greif... This has been going around the offroad pages the last couple days but this is the first time I have seem the hitch. I thought the ball just broke off as usual. That's a shit ton of leverage... No wonder it broke. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:19:53 AM EDT
[#15]
Looks like zero effort was made with a shovel beforehand.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:20:16 AM EDT
[#16]
Holy fuck
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:20:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:21:09 AM EDT
[#18]
Factor 55 just had a post about something similar happening. Crazy stuff, time to buy some soft shackles...
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:21:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_3_jpeg-2469385.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch1_jpg-2469384.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_5_jpeg-2469386.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_4_jpeg-2469387.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_2_jpeg-2469388.JPG pulling with that fucking drop hitch |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:22:26 AM EDT
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Saw this in person in the sand in west Palm beach,it only took out the hood and windshield of a Chevy truck
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:22:59 AM EDT
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In before the family sues the hitch manufacturer for not having a warning sticker saying "don't use this as a recovery point or you may die".
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:23:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Physics is a bitch. They made it into a hell of a lever with tons of force. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_2_jpeg-2469388.JPG Good Greif... This has been going around the offroad pages the last couple days but this is the first time I have seem the hitch. I thought the ball just broke off as usual. That's a shit ton of leverage... No wonder it broke. Everything about it was setup for failure. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:24:42 AM EDT
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Having owned a towing business... A wrecker does wonders, and never is anyone in a vehicle being recovered. Sad. RIP.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:25:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A truck buried in the mud is way over the weight ratings of a hitch like that. Yeah, that's a slow winch pull attempt with a couple snatch blocks.... and backwards not forwards. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:26:14 AM EDT
[#25]
 Mass Damage snapping winch Cables |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:27:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_3_jpeg-2469385.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch1_jpg-2469384.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_5_jpeg-2469386.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_4_jpeg-2469387.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_2_jpeg-2469388.JPG Stuff like this is why I have so much derision for the brodozer crowd. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:27:41 AM EDT
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We have seen people right here in these forums try and say that this practice is just fine. So silly.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:27:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything about it was setup for failure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_2_jpeg-2469388.JPG Good Greif... This has been going around the offroad pages the last couple days but this is the first time I have seem the hitch. I thought the ball just broke off as usual. That's a shit ton of leverage... No wonder it broke. Everything about it was setup for failure. Yep, whole lot of stupid. Most people with four wheel drives have no idea what they're doing, doubly so when it comes to recovery. It doesn't help that idiots like a certain towing channel that folks like for some reason show them hooking a rope over a ball in their early videos, never using safety equipment, etc. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:28:20 AM EDT
[#29]
Clearly the result of the drop hitch leverage. Seen chains break with similar deadly or near deadly results.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:29:49 AM EDT
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I saw a gooseneck ball snap off, and it and the strap that was attached to it went through the back glass and out the front glass and quit about 15 feet the other side of his front bumper.
Ball was fucking humming and punched a clean entry and exit. Pretty exhilarating to witness, but not as exhilarating as the guy who was in the truck when it passed through. There was no such thing as a kinetic recovery rope back then, just a nylon "snatch strap", cable or chain. This event was a strap. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:32:52 AM EDT
[#31]
 We've had several close calls, even though we've all taken rigging classes. Things get hairy when a 400 ton choker breaks recovering a stuck truck that weighs 1.5 million lbs with D11s hooked to it. I keep a 400 ton alloy shackle in my garage that we straightened out trying to rescue a 3.4 million lb rope shovel. I don't play around with recovery, even at home. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:33:08 AM EDT
[#32]
 Holy shit, going to look to see if my receiver recovery point is a solid piece but honestly it looks like even a welded onto frame recovery point could do the same. Obviously the drop hitch caused tons of leverage but still, damn!ETA: wow seeing the pictures, yeah that is a long ass drop hitch and quite a lever, pretty easy to see how that would snap. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:33:09 AM EDT
[#33]
Snatch strap and D ring hitch check….
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:33:55 AM EDT
[#34]
Doesn't look like this is to blame here, but don't be lazy like me and leave your ball mount in the receiver all the time.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:35:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYeah, that video pretty much proves you CAN pull from a ball hitch. What failed in this recovery is the drop hitch. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:35:17 AM EDT
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You'd need more than a blanket to stop the hitch. Damn.
 Edit: Just saw the pics. Ahhh, Bronies were using their bro-height trucks with straight brim hat drop downs. Way too much leverage on the hitch. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:38:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't look like this is to blame here, but don't be lazy like me and leave your ball mount in the receiver all the time. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219829/Capture2-1216530.png Literally every truck driver around leaves theirs in because they think it will help them in a rear end wreck. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:38:41 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have had a couple people try to get me to hook up to a ball... No, here... take my solid D-ring hitch and stick it in your receiver, thanks. Yep. In a pinch you can just shove the loop end of the strap into the receiver and run the pin through the loop. Also a great reminder that you should always weigh your line down too. Jackets, blankets, canvas bags filled with dirt, etc. Anything to help absorb some of the energy should the line or the attachment point give way. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:40:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Non-FB link FB link Knowing more force was needed to pluck this 9,000lb truck out of the mud he backed up a few feet to get a better start. That turned out to be too much stress for the ball hitch when the extra tension was created by the force of the pull it ripped the drop down portion of the hitch off of the truck, sending it and the strap directly towards Ryans truck smashing through the windshield, directly where Ryan was in the Driver seat. The force was so great it ripped through the windshield and bent the steering wheel before ultimately striking Ryan in the face, ending his life. Guys, don't yank on leveraged things. And don't yank on another car without a blanket or something similar to help direct broken parts to the ground. Poor guy. Words of truth. If you have a tow strap/cable get a HF furniture blanket and throw it in your truck. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:44:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like zero effort was made with a shovel beforehand. Not sure about that. There is a depression in front on the left front tire in the picture that looks filled with water. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:45:13 AM EDT
[#41]
His family was in the car to see it. Prayers.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:45:18 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why you put something on the strap or cable. No, pulling on the hitch ball is still monumentally fucking retarded even with something on the strap or cable. The ball can break off entirely and become a missile unhindered by the strap. If you have a bitch ball, you have a hitch PIN. Feed the strap into the receiver and pin it. It's not just an expedient method - it's the best method because you're introducing as few possible missiles into the setup as possible. This is 100% pure retarded redneck "yeehaw my momma is mah sister" lazy bullshit. We'll probably never know if someone who should have known better didn't teach this guy when he was young, or if he heard the warnings and didn't listen. Or even if he was pressured into it by a retarded "good samaritan", as I've seen happen a number of times. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:45:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Words of truth. If you have a tow strap/cable get a HF furniture blanket and throw it in your truck. I love those things...only like 2 or 3 bucks each. I use them for cheap shooting mats, to lay on the garage floor when working on vehicles, etc. Get the wife to stitch a couple together and leave an opening so you can fill it with dirt, rocks, etc. to add weight as needed. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:46:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good Greif... This has been going around the offroad pages the last couple days but this is the first time I have seem the hitch. I thought the ball just broke off as usual. That's a shit ton of leverage... No wonder it broke. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's the pics, leverage on a big 'ol drop due to a brodozer lift to blame https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hitch_2_jpeg-2469388.JPG Good Greif... This has been going around the offroad pages the last couple days but this is the first time I have seem the hitch. I thought the ball just broke off as usual. That's a shit ton of leverage... No wonder it broke. Same. Holy cow. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:49:00 AM EDT
[#45]
he backed up a few feet to get a better start.  There's more to the story than just using a drop ball hitch for a recovery point. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:50:07 AM EDT
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This exact same thing happened years ago to guy in one of our neighboring fire departments - Engine got stuck in mud and when it was being pulled out, it ripped the hitch right off the other truck attempting to free it - went right through the Engine's windshield and struck and killed the driver.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:50:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why you put something on the strap or cable. That would stop the cable. But using a tow ball it'll just be a projectile. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:50:59 AM EDT
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This is the second hitch to get somebody killed this week. One guy was carrying it in his front yard... Ban them
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:52:03 AM EDT
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A $15 shovel, a pair of recovery boards, and 20 minutes of work would have saved this guy's life.
Quoted: That would stop the cable. But using a tow ball it'll just be a projectile. You can tell people over and over and they just won't listen. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:53:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have seen people right here in these forums try and say that this practice is just fine. So silly. Your criticism is technically correct, but there's a spectrum here. This:  This: :max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/tow4-56a98ec55f9b58b7d0fcb54b.jpg) And stupid shit like this:  These are three very different things that create three very different physics problems. There's also the question of what kind of vehicle are we pulling, and what kind of situation are we pulling it out of? Is it a 4,000 lbs Ford Ranger stuck in snow, or is it a 7,000+ lbs diesel Super Duty sucked into mud? Again, these are different scenarios with different physics problems. |
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