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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:38:36 AM EST
So, my transmission on my car is fubar'd.
Car is a 01 V6 Camaro with a manual transmission.
The transmission will shift fine with the car off, but will not shift with the car on. I was told it might be a switch on the pedal that's either broken or messed up somehow. Anyone got other ideas?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:39:43 AM EST
IBTRG!
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:40:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By knifewrench:
So, my transmission on my car is fubar'd.
Car is a 01 V6 Camaro with a manual transmission.
The transmission will shift fine with the car off, but will not shift with the car on. I was told it might be a switch on the pedal that's either broken or messed up somehow. Anyone got other ideas?


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:40:41 AM EST
Oh, wrong kind of tranny. NM
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:40:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 10:45:53 AM EST by Forgetfull]
1-Does it shift when the car is turned off and you use the clutch?? Does it shift when car is off and you don't use clutch??

2-Can you leave it in first when car is off then push clutch in and start it up??

3-If 2 works can you release clutch to go??

4- if 3 works can you clutch in and shift? or just pull it out of first after letting off the gas?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:40:57 AM EST
The Drag boys tend to know a lot about Trannies...
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:41:08 AM EST
Is it really that hard to write "transmission" instead of "tranny"?

These thread titles are so misleading.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:41:30 AM EST
LOL In for shenanigans.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:41:36 AM EST
Do not want.

That's all I know about trannies.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:41:41 AM EST
Arfcom tranny experts!


Like anyone would be dumb enough to admit that...

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:41:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:42:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:43:48 AM EST
is it grinding when you try to shift?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:45:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:45:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Quintin:
Something in the clutch assembly had failed. Clutch fork, master cylinder, slave cylinder, pressure plate, something. Start with checking the clutch master cylinder and ensuring it's full of fluid. If it is, shimmy under the car while someone works the clutch pedal, checking to see if the slave cylinder is moving the clutch fork.


+1 make sure girl doesnt conceal a sausage surprise, then
check to see if the clutch fluid resevoir is full or empty. if empty, fill with DOT3 brake fluid. if brake fluid leaks out, you got a busted master/slave cylinder or lines.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:46:31 AM EST
This is going to get funny
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:47:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 10:48:07 AM EST by doggscube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUHJNVjpS0

WTF is up with me and embedding
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:47:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:48:47 AM EST
and here I was thinking this was going to be another epic thread
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:52:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By Quintin:
Something in the clutch assembly had failed. Clutch fork, master cylinder, slave cylinder, pressure plate, something. Start with checking the clutch master cylinder and ensuring it's full of fluid. If it is, shimmy under the car while someone works the clutch pedal, checking to see if the slave cylinder is moving the clutch fork.


It's an 01, everything is hydraulic on these. I've changed out everything with new parts. Master/slave cylinder, pressure plate, flywheel.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:53:14 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:53:54 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:54:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Quintin:
What if you put it in gear with the engine off, then start the engine, what happens?


Even with the clutch it, wheels start turning.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:54:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By Quintin:
Originally Posted By knifewrench:
Originally Posted By Quintin:
Something in the clutch assembly had failed. Clutch fork, master cylinder, slave cylinder, pressure plate, something. Start with checking the clutch master cylinder and ensuring it's full of fluid. If it is, shimmy under the car while someone works the clutch pedal, checking to see if the slave cylinder is moving the clutch fork.


It's an 01, everything is hydraulic on these. I've changed out everything with new parts. Master/slave cylinder, pressure plate, flywheel.


Air in the lines, maybe? Did you bleed the system?


Yessir.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:55:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Fearlessleader01:
Is it really that hard to write "transmission" instead of "tranny"?

These thread titles are so misleading.



Got excited for nothing?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:55:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By Forgetfull:
1-Does it shift when the car is turned off and you use the clutch?? Does it shift when car is off and you don't use clutch??

2-Can you leave it in first when car is off then push clutch in and start it up??

3-If 2 works can you release clutch to go??

4- if 3 works can you clutch in and shift? or just pull it out of first after letting off the gas?


1-Can shift easily with both clutch and no clutch
2-Yes it does start up
3,4-wheels start turning even with the clutch in.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:00:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 11:01:57 AM EST by JoseCuervo]
How many miles?

Sounds like it is time to drop the trans, and it seems like you have the knowledge.. Throw out bearing? Clutch disc? Might just need a new clutch.

Rob
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:06:08 AM EST
Grind it till ya find it.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:06:46 AM EST
Oh, I thought this thread was about something else.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:09:16 AM EST
yea different kind of Tranny.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:09:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 11:14:40 AM EST by Forgetfull]

Originally Posted By knifewrench:
Originally Posted By Forgetfull:
1-Does it shift when the car is turned off and you use the clutch?? Does it shift when car is off and you don't use clutch??

2-Can you leave it in first when car is off then push clutch in and start it up??

3-If 2 works can you release clutch to go??

4- if 3 works can you clutch in and shift? or just pull it out of first after letting off the gas?


1-Can shift easily with both clutch and no clutch
2-Yes it does start up
3,4-wheels start turning even with the clutch in.
So the engine applies torque to the wheels even when the clutch peddle is completely in?
If that's the case then your clutch seems to be not fully disengaging from the flywheel. To even start the engine, the clutch cannot be engaged much at all since the drive-train will stop the crank from spinning.

Obviously you know what you're doing so I'm just asking these questions to clarify it for me.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:15:24 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:17:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 11:17:59 AM EST by odiedodi]

Originally Posted By FMD:


He's very cute.


Last time I check she was the youngest person to get transgender surgery at 12 years old.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:18:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
How many miles?

Sounds like it is time to drop the trans, and it seems like you have the knowledge.. Throw out bearing? Clutch disc? Might just need a new clutch.

Rob


Eh, I've already changed most everything under there. The slave cylinder I bought came with a spring that was a bit shorter than the original one, could that be it?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:29:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Oh, wrong kind of tranny. NM


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:30:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By Torqued:
IBTRG!


Damnit!

TRG
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:30:42 AM EST
You know you've posted on ARFcom for far too long when you read "Arfcom tranny experts!" as "Arfcom tyranny experts!"
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:32:30 AM EST
Best thread title, EVER.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:34:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:
Best thread title, EVER.


Thanks.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:35:24 AM EST
oops... I thought it said TYRANNY experts... my bad
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:37:39 AM EST
Originally Posted By knifewrench:
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
How many miles?

Sounds like it is time to drop the trans, and it seems like you have the knowledge.. Throw out bearing? Clutch disc? Might just need a new clutch.

Rob


Eh, I've already changed most everything under there. The slave cylinder I bought came with a spring that was a bit shorter than the original one, could that be it?


It's been many years since I wrenched, but, again, how many miles? It sounds like you have changed a lot of parts, and if it is high mileage, has the clutch disc and T/O bearing been changed? You have to remove the transmission to change those.

If this is low mileage and you swapped the slave for whatever reason, the shorter spring would have caused the problem right away I would think. It is a return spring, so I think you might have slippage (once in gear and driving). It would have started right away as I said. Also, like I said, it has been years since I wrenched.

Rob
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:43:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
Originally Posted By knifewrench:
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
How many miles?

Sounds like it is time to drop the trans, and it seems like you have the knowledge.. Throw out bearing? Clutch disc? Might just need a new clutch.

Rob


Eh, I've already changed most everything under there. The slave cylinder I bought came with a spring that was a bit shorter than the original one, could that be it?


It's been many years since I wrenched, but, again, how many miles? It sounds like you have changed a lot of parts, and if it is high mileage, has the clutch disc and T/O bearing been changed? You have to remove the transmission to change those.

If this is low mileage and you swapped the slave for whatever reason, the shorter spring would have caused the problem right away I would think. It is a return spring, so I think you might have slippage (once in gear and driving). It would have started right away as I said. Also, like I said, it has been years since I wrenched.

Rob


It's 106k right now, and everything was stock before this. I've already changed out the master/slave cylinder, flywheel, clutch disc, pressure plate, and tob.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:45:34 AM EST
Someday all the sexual knowledge I gained living in Brazil will help someone out. This turns out not to be the thread I had hoped.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:47:31 AM EST
Your clutch is obviously not releasing. Start there.

Get someone to push the clutch in while you watch the clutch lever on the transmission. Does it look like it's moving the full distance? If not, it's your hydraulic system.

If it does move the full distance, then likely the clutch fork is bent or something.

RF
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:48:07 AM EST
It's 106k right now, and everything was stock before this.


Did "this" happen right after you changed the slave and used this shorter spring, or is "this" a high end clutch? Have you tried changing the spring back, or is that not doable? I get the feeling you are not telling us everything, possibly probably accidently. Are you souping this thing up or what? Car repair diagnosis is hard enough when the car is in the drive. I'm on my computer.

Rob
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:52:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By swingset:
Someday all the sexual knowledge I gained living in Brazil will help someone out. This turns out not to be the thread I had hoped.

ROFL.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:54:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 11:55:49 AM EST by unseenSNIPER]
camero in question has over 100k on it.

good luck fixing it.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:56:30 AM EST
Originally Posted By doggscube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUHJNVjpS0

WTF is up with me and embedding


Just don't try to 'embed a tranny'.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:57:17 AM EST
OP you should Google up some info on Blown Tranny...I'm sure that'll have all kinds of information. Make sure to use image search too, it'll help when you try to find out why you have a leaky tranny.

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:57:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ciraxis:
and here I was thinking this was going to be another epic thread


It ain't over yet.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 12:01:31 PM EST
You do realize the clutch pedal is the one on the left side.
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