I sent out 7 pre applications while in trucking school to the following:

Falcon, Werner, Transport America, TMC, USA Truck, Swift(Only because i had nothing better to do!) and U.S. Express enterprises.

So Transport America and Werner give me tentative pre hires.

My backround is thus......College graduate, NO Moving violations EVER!, NO DUI's EVER, only one accident ruled my fault in 20 years of driving more than 5 years ago. 10.5 years at same employer(Which i was terminated from but told them why on apps totally honestly).NO Criminal charges EVER! I'm 38 with all a totally spotless record on all things they look at.

TMC and USA TRuck turned me down on Pre hire apps. So i asked the placement person for the school i'm attending why they would do that since you think they'd wet their pants looking for someone with as clean a backround as i have.

The placement specialist told me this "You are too good to be true, so they are assuming you are lying about something, nobody these days stays with the same employer for 10 and a half years, and has clean driving record at 38 yrs old! You are being honest but they are so used to people building themsleves up on apps just find out later they are trash that they think your apps are built on bullshit!"

Is this true, the companies get lied to so much that they are assuming i'm lying because my backround is too good to be true?

If this is the case, then 6 months or ayear down the road when i actually have experience and their headhunters come asking me to join them then i will just "Naw was too good for them then and i'm still too good for them now!"

I was brought to be told staying clean and out of trouble and being honest was valued wherever you go apparently i am learning diffrently.

Lie about your termination.  It's your only hope.

Negative, truckign companies will fuk you without lubricant they find out you lied on an app on purpose and you could find yourself Blacklisted throughout the industry, the trucking companies do talk to each other you know.

Like i said i was already offered to good to go's, and neither Werner or Transport America are among the comapnies you definatly do not want to apply for!

your a collage graduate! your too smart,you,ll figure their bullshit out!

In trucking there is a thing called the DAC report. They know EVERYTHING about you.

No trucking company will EVER turn someone down because they are "too good"  It's a long line of trucker bullshit that makes me laugh every time I hear it.

I was just hired at a new company with an absolutely perfect driving record, a perfect work history, and perfect everything else they looked at.  BTW, they are TMC's main competitor and edge them out in almost every aspect.


You get lied to.

I'm also a college grad who drives a truck.

Maybe it's because we can't shift.

Take these dumb motherfuckers from the country, raised on a farm, and they can instinctively and naturally drive a 10 speed.

It took me 7 months until I learned how to float gears, and years and years of practice before I could do it right.  Get a farm boy from the country who can barely spell his name, and he'll float gears on his CDL exam.

If you're book-smart, you're fucked.

Whether these statistics are true or not, most trucking companies accept them as true enough,

Half of all new CDL's will have an accident or incident within the first six months of driving.  Half of that half will have a second within the next six months.

Hang in there, jobs aren't quite as plentiful now as they were six months ago or as they will be six months from now.  Driving has one of the highest turnover rates of any profession anywhere.  Get your experience wherever you can, next year this time you'll have your pick of companies.

All the stuff on your app is easily verified. no trucking company is going to turn you down without checking.
Your "placement specialist" is blowing smoke up your ass.

BTW, I don't know about Transport America but Werner is a shitty company to work for. My father ran for em for awhile.

Quoted: I'm also a college grad who drives a truck. Maybe it's because we can't shift. Take these dumb motherfuckers from the country, raised on a farm, and they can instinctively and naturally drive a 10 speed. It took me 7 months until I learned how to float gears, and years and years of practice before I could do it right.  Get a farm boy from the country who can barely spell his name, and he'll float gears on his CDL exam. If you're book-smart, you're fucked.

I wish I could tell you to go fuck yourself.  But I would get banned if I did.

I'm a smart college educated mother fucker raised on a farm that floated on his cdl exam.  129  IQ, 1530 SAT, 129gt and 127st on the asvab with an aggregate of 84.  

I'm very book smart, and very successful in this business.


ETA, as a friend just pointed out.  If we're so dumb, and you can't do what we can do?..... just sayin

Well, i'm college educated but also took Ag classes in highschool can drive a farm tractor. Weld, Work on my own cars run various power tools and saws and.................


I'm only day 4 of actually driving the truck at the school and already out shift everybody who started school with me!! I can start out in 4th gear without bucking or stalling or lunging. Still getting used to the "damn clitoris" on the shifter for high and low range so i have some roughage their from time to time.

And am already able to Parallel park and straight back 100%

DAc report? I was totally honest on the apps i sent out so what othwer reasons would they have for denying me?

BTW, its the end of week 2 of a 4 week course and i have a 94% grade average.

For those asking why with a college degree would go driving truck? Well lets just say it pays better than anything short of State Trooper or FBI agent for a criminal justice major.

I honestly don't think they even ran the backround check on my Pre Apps because they state right in their literature they run it during your orientation.

I'm not losing sleep over it, it just bothers me because guys with DUI's and Speeding tickets and Accidents are hearing their approved and i'm like whats wrong with me do i have "swamp butt" or something?

I would recommend calling TMC and talking to someone.  Better company than the rest, hands-down.

-p.

Quoted: Quoted: I'm also a college grad who drives a truck. Maybe it's because we can't shift. Take these dumb motherfuckers from the country, raised on a farm, and they can instinctively and naturally drive a 10 speed. It took me 7 months until I learned how to float gears, and years and years of practice before I could do it right.  Get a farm boy from the country who can barely spell his name, and he'll float gears on his CDL exam. If you're book-smart, you're fucked. I wish I could tell you to go fuck yourself.  But I would get banned if I did. I'm a smart college educated mother fucker raised on a farm that floated on his cdl exam.  129  IQ, 1530 SAT, 129gt and 127st on the asvab with an aggregate of 84.   I'm very book smart, and very successful in this business. ETA, as a friend just pointed out.  If we're so dumb, and you can't do what we can do?..... just sayin

Why are you driving then?

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm also a college grad who drives a truck. Maybe it's because we can't shift. Take these dumb motherfuckers from the country, raised on a farm, and they can instinctively and naturally drive a 10 speed. It took me 7 months until I learned how to float gears, and years and years of practice before I could do it right.  Get a farm boy from the country who can barely spell his name, and he'll float gears on his CDL exam. If you're book-smart, you're fucked. I wish I could tell you to go fuck yourself.  But I would get banned if I did. I'm a smart college educated mother fucker raised on a farm that floated on his cdl exam.  129  IQ, 1530 SAT, 129gt and 127st on the asvab with an aggregate of 84.   I'm very book smart, and very successful in this business. ETA, as a friend just pointed out.  If we're so dumb, and you can't do what we can do?..... just sayin Why are you driving then?

Some people just like to drive....

Gettin into the business has been getting weirder ever since they sent me to a chiropractor for my physical!

He's feeling around for a hernia and i'm laying there thinking "This bone cracker wouldn't know a hernia if my guts popped out and wrapped around his head!"

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm also a college grad who drives a truck. Maybe it's because we can't shift. Take these dumb motherfuckers from the country, raised on a farm, and they can instinctively and naturally drive a 10 speed. It took me 7 months until I learned how to float gears, and years and years of practice before I could do it right.  Get a farm boy from the country who can barely spell his name, and he'll float gears on his CDL exam. If you're book-smart, you're fucked. I wish I could tell you to go fuck yourself.  But I would get banned if I did. I'm a smart college educated mother fucker raised on a farm that floated on his cdl exam.  129  IQ, 1530 SAT, 129gt and 127st on the asvab with an aggregate of 84.   I'm very book smart, and very successful in this business. ETA, as a friend just pointed out.  If we're so dumb, and you can't do what we can do?..... just sayin Why are you driving then?

You forget.... the average Arfcomer has been in the special forces, is a fucking genius with ten college degrees, AND has an 18" cock.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm also a college grad who drives a truck. Maybe it's because we can't shift. Take these dumb motherfuckers from the country, raised on a farm, and they can instinctively and naturally drive a 10 speed. It took me 7 months until I learned how to float gears, and years and years of practice before I could do it right.  Get a farm boy from the country who can barely spell his name, and he'll float gears on his CDL exam. If you're book-smart, you're fucked. I wish I could tell you to go fuck yourself.  But I would get banned if I did. I'm a smart college educated mother fucker raised on a farm that floated on his cdl exam.  129  IQ, 1530 SAT, 129gt and 127st on the asvab with an aggregate of 84.   I'm very book smart, and very successful in this business. ETA, as a friend just pointed out.  If we're so dumb, and you can't do what we can do?..... just sayin Why are you driving then?

I make a lot more than 85% of college graduates in central AR.  I used to enjoy it, now, it's the 52.5k a year average over the 35K a year average of most college graduates in central AR.

Quoted: You forget.... the average Arfcomer has been in the special forces, is a fucking genius with ten college degrees, AND has an 18" cock.

I've offered before to talk to any recruiter on arfcom to give them the info for them to look up my asvab scores.  It's the only part I can verify easily since it's been 12 years since the IQ test and SAT.

Quoted: Well, i'm college educated but also took Ag classes in highschool can drive a farm tractor. Weld, Work on my own cars run various power tools and saws and.................

None of that is at all relevant to a trucking company.

I'm only day 4 of actually driving the truck at the school and already out shift everybody who started school with me!! I can start out in 4th gear without bucking or stalling or lunging. Still getting used to the "damn clitoris" on the shifter for high and low range so i have some roughage their from time to time.

Why in hell would you be starting out in 4th? I don't even start out in 4th when bobtailing.
Starting out in a semi is no different than starting out in a manual pickup truck. shifting a semi is all about the high/low range and gear recovery. when you can go through all your gears and make recoveries without looking at your tach or speedo or grinding em to fit then you can start bragging.

And am already able to Parallel park and straight back 100%

Strait back is cake, start doing blind side 90's. and what do you mean by parallel park?

DAc report? I was totally honest on the apps i sent out so what othwer reasons would they have for denying me?

Many companies don't hire drivers fresh out of school. sometimes they have too many drivers for a specific region etc

BTW, its the end of week 2 of a 4 week course and i have a 94% grade average.

Not particularly difficult to do in trucking school. we usually have to retrain the idiots that come out of the 1 month schools.

For those asking why with a college degree would go driving truck? Well lets just say it pays better than anything short of State Trooper or FBI agent for a criminal justice major.

I've met former doctors and lawyers that went trucking simply to get away from office life.

I honestly don't think they even ran the backround check on my Pre Apps because they state right in their literature they run it during your orientation.

They wouldn't run a formal background check on a pre app but if they were seriously looking for drivers they would call former employers and such.

I'm not losing sleep over it, it just bothers me because guys with DUI's and Speeding tickets and Accidents are hearing their approved and i'm like whats wrong with me do i have "swamp butt" or something?

Something smells...

   Just a thought, but maybe your college education is throwing them off.

   They might think you won't stick with it if you have other options or it may just intimidate them somehow.

Well, i'm not exactly a virgin entering this 4 week CDL school, I do have to admit i've been running fire apparatus that class as CDL for 12 years without one, because Pennsyltucky does not require one they have a seperate test for apparatus drivers called E.V.O.C. which is basically a CDL test with the applicable emergency vehicle specific laws.

I'm wasn't bragging about my shifting just pointing out i'm way ahead of the rest of my classmates doing it. And yes i am reaching the point i shift on engine sound alone.

Parallel park is something Pennsylvania requires on their CDL test and it's exactly what it sounds like, trailer in striaght then bring your cab around to align with the trailer inside of a box without encroaching or any part of the truck sticking out.

And yes i am learning offset docking and got it in my second try.

The top was just to illustrate my for the person who was insinuating that College people cannot do anything with their hands and therefore cannot shift, that i was a do it your self hands on country boy before i was ever a college grad.

As for making fun of Dusty C.......... I tested at 128 I.Q, don't remember my asvab score, took the ACT not the SAT. So yes, Virginia people High I.Q.s do drive trucks, obviously because we are smart enough to look around at who's making money and who isn't!!

BTW, Dusty, One more question since you have obviously stated you are running "flats" for a competitor of TMC?

If i go "flats" for somebody, which ends up being more Mileage or being payed by Percentage? Because Falcon if they contact me are mostly recruiting Flatbed drivers in my immediate area. Some of the guys i spoke to driving them are making $1200 weekly after taxes, but both said they were running percentage not mileage.

As far as Starting out in 4th gear, these trucks are really low geared, by the time you let up the clutch in first you better be grabbing second, as soon ast the clutch is out in second you better be in third, you are topping out RPM's at 8mph in 5th!!! Upper High range has a lot more disparity in speeds between gears as you may have guessed.

Quoted: Well, i'm not exactly a virgin entering this 4 week CDL school, I do have to admit i've been running fire apparatus that class as CDL for 12 years without one, because Pennsyltucky does not require one they have a seperate test for apparatus drivers called E.V.O.C. which is basically a CDL test with the applicable emergency vehicle specific laws. I'm wasn't bragging about my shifting just pointing out i'm way ahead of the rest of my classmates doing it. And yes i am reaching the point i shift on engine sound alone. Parallel park is something Pennsylvania requires on their CDL test and it's exactly what it sounds like, trailer in striaght then bring your cab around to align with the trailer inside of a box without encroaching or any part of the truck sticking out. And yes i am learning offset docking and got it in my second try. The top was just to illustrate my for the person who was insinuating that College people cannot do anything with their hands and therefore cannot shift, that i was a do it your self hands on country boy before i was ever a college grad. As for making fun of Dusty C.......... I tested at 128 I.Q, don't remember my asvab score, took the ACT not the SAT. So yes, Virginia people High I.Q.s do drive trucks, obviously because we are smart enough to look around at who's making money and who isn't!! BTW, Dusty, One more question since you have obviously stated you are running "flats" for a competitor of TMC? If i go "flats" for somebody, which ends up being more Mileage or being payed by Percentage? Because Falcon if they contact me are mostly recruiting Flatbed drivers in my immediate area. Some of the guys i spoke to driving them are making $1200 weekly after taxes, but both said they were running percentage not mileage. As far as Starting out in 4th gear, these trucks are really low geared, by the time you let up the clutch in first you better be grabbing second, as soon ast the clutch is out in second you better be in third, you are topping out RPM's at 8mph in 5th!!! Upper High range has a lot more disparity in speeds between gears as you may have guessed.

I had a few students that came to JB Hunt from Falcon.  If JB Hunt is a step up from anything, I'll sure as hell never go there.  I go with mileage pay.  Percentage fucks you on the DH.

As far as starting off in fourth? I start off in fourth on level ground with any load that grosses under 60k, 3rd if it's over, and if I'm bobtail on level ground I start off in 5th.

Everyone has there own way of doing things, but I don't lug the engine, and that's what matters.

. Quote mistake.

Quoted: I make a lot more than 85% of college graduates in central AR.  I used to enjoy it, now, it's the 52.5k a year average over the 35K a year average of most college graduates in central AR.

That only speaks to where you are.  Don't try that were I am...

Quoted: Quoted: I make a lot more than 85% of college graduates in central AR.  I used to enjoy it, now, it's the 52.5k a year average over the 35K a year average of most college graduates in central AR. That only speaks to where you are.  Don't try that were I am...

The cost of living is so much lower here I wouldn't ever wanna leave here anyway. Besides, my state ain't being over ran with libtards.

thats the way i see it Dusty, I ain't caliming to be gods gift to truckin because i am better than the average student in my class.

The school i'm going to does not claim to be the be all and end all of trucking knowledge, they outright admit.

"We will give you just what you need to drive the truck safely and pass the CDL exam,  There is no reason to waste your time with more than that as the comapnies will further your training anyway so they can show you how they do things specifically within their organization."-"Butch" Vaux-Head trainer.

To the guy who made the comment about the 4 week school students sucking, well blame your company's training drivers because they are supposed to be furthering and refining our training once we get the License.

I'm with Dusty, With a criminal justice degree our county prison only pays $29,000 for a Assistant jail Warden, $24,000 for a starting probation officer. trucking companies are are offering around $35,000 starting driving average mileage for van with raises about every 6 months you drive!! I live in my area because the Cost of living is is reasonable, The fish are plentiful, the opportunities for hunting are good as i live below the largest state owned forest east of the Missisippi. So on my free time i will still be able to live in a small somewhat quiet town near the outdoor activities i like to do when i'm in off the road.

And yes, i will make more than 85% of the college graduates located in my AO also just starting out and the mileage pay only goes up from there with experience!

Quoted: In trucking there is a thing called the DAC report. They know EVERYTHING about you. No trucking company will EVER turn someone down because they are "too good"  It's a long line of trucker bullshit that makes me laugh every time I hear it. I was just hired at a new company with an absolutely perfect driving record, a perfect work history, and perfect everything else they looked at.  BTW, they are TMC's main competitor and edge them out in almost every aspect. You get lied to.

What about that car you ran off the road that was tailgating/annoying the piss out of you?

Quoted: Quoted: In trucking there is a thing called the DAC report. They know EVERYTHING about you. No trucking company will EVER turn someone down because they are "too good"  It's a long line of trucker bullshit that makes me laugh every time I hear it. I was just hired at a new company with an absolutely perfect driving record, a perfect work history, and perfect everything else they looked at.  BTW, they are TMC's main competitor and edge them out in almost every aspect. You get lied to. What about that car you ran off the road that was tailgating/annoying the piss out of you?

I thought that was nationwide?

Xdbackupgun, If paint was never exchanged, it NEVER HAPPENED!!

I know this the hard way, I was forced to lose control of my car by a WERNER truck 7 years ago, it was ruled not his fault because he never touched my vehicle.(His Slipstream off his cab sent me fishtailing on snowy roads.)

Quoted: Quoted: In trucking there is a thing called the DAC report. They know EVERYTHING about you. No trucking company will EVER turn someone down because they are "too good"  It's a long line of trucker bullshit that makes me laugh every time I hear it. I was just hired at a new company with an absolutely perfect driving record, a perfect work history, and perfect everything else they looked at.  BTW, they are TMC's main competitor and edge them out in almost every aspect. You get lied to. What about that car you ran off the road that was tailgating/annoying the piss out of you?

He ran himself off the road by being to close to my trailer.  You draft an 18 wheeler and you give up a lotta control of your vehicle. I didn't run him off the road.

Quoted: He ran himself off the road by being to close to my trailer.  You draft an 18 wheeler and you give up a lotta control of your vehicle. I didn't run him off the road.

Hmmmm.  O RLY?

-p.

Quoted: Quoted: He ran himself off the road by being to close to my trailer.  You draft an 18 wheeler and you give up a lotta control of your vehicle. I didn't run him off the road. Hmmmm.  O RLY? -p.

If the truck is going fast enough and you're tight in it's draft, they can drag you to one side, accidently or not.

Quoted: If the truck is going fast enough and you're tight in it's draft, they can drag you to one side, accidently or not.

Oh.  Okay.  That's well, good to know in case I ever run someone off the road.

Do JB Hunt trucks go "fast enough"?

(BTW, I'm just fucking with you, hand . . .)

-p.

Quoted: Quoted: If the truck is going fast enough and you're tight in it's draft, they can drag you to one side, accidently or not. Oh.  Okay.  That's well, good to know in case I ever run someone off the road. Do JB Hunt trucks go "fast enough"? (BTW, I'm just fucking with you, hand . . .) -p.

I know,

JB Hunt trucks don't.  I don't work for JB Hunt either.  The incident that xdbackupgun brought up was when I was a wet behind the ears rookie several years ago.

The truck I was in at the time was fast enough that when I wiggled to scare a beemer off my ass, he hit dirt.  

I was with Transport Amarica for 2 whole months. The constant stream of hot loads got old after awhile.

YMMV

Quoted: The placement specialist told me this "You are too good to be true, so they are assuming you are lying about something, nobody these days stays with the same employer for 10 and a half years, and has clean driving record at 38 yrs old! You are being honest but they are so used to people building themsleves up on apps just find out later they are trash that they think your apps are built on bullshit!" Is this true, the companies get lied to so much that they are assuming i'm lying because my backround is too good to be true?

Nope, this was the "build self confidence" move by the placement specialist. The confident applicant will always perform better in a hiring process. If he told you that it was some random fuck-all or that the market was flooded, that might be discouraging.

You're good enough, you're smart enough, and dog gone it... people like you.

Quoted: The constant stream of hot loads got old after awhile.

I heard that's why Jenna Jameson originally moved to strictly girl-girl scenes.

Quoted: Quoted: The constant stream of hot loads got old after awhile. I heard that's why Jenna Jameson originally moved to strictly girl-girl scenes.

Another college grad/truck driver checking in. And my degree was in criminal justice!

Here's some info for ya:

Werner has shrunk by nearly 1000 trucks in the last year.

Due to the economy, companies are able to be more selective about who they hire. The number of rookies hired has dropped, and companies are hiring more drivers with experience.

I don't know of any good companies left these days. Yeah I'm a bit jaded..

You are going to hate this job.

Sorry.

Hmm, interesting! The recruiter from Transport America said there was a major hauler in financial trouble spending 7 cents per every dollar they make, she said if you are over 3 cents per dollar your company was in trouble in the trucking industry, she also said this company has been selling off trucks to stay afloat.

Now you tell me Werner has went down by 1000 trucks, they also pre hired several candidates in last weeks graduating class and told them two days before their class ended to forget it don't show up.

I am lucky however i live in a good region for Dedicated and Regional hauling, being Pa.

So far i have pre hires for Werner, Transport America, and Swift.

I do not know if i will hate trucking or not, i like to see new places and things , i'm a natural loner.

I've always been a loner & have always been able to do deal with boredom quite well.

But I've never been so f***ing bored in my life, detention in High School was more interesting. I hate driving truck & if it weren't for the money, I'd have quit long ago.

Quoted: I've always been a loner & have always been able to do deal with boredom quite well. But I've never been so f***ing bored in my life, detention in High School was more interesting. I hate driving truck & if it weren't for the money, I'd have quit long ago.

There probably aren't enough audiobooks in the world...

I had a real "SuperTrucker" day Monday . . .

1,249 miles:  Houston to Kansas and back playing tanker-yanker.  I couldn't sleep last night, so I ended up getting up at 2:00 or so.  In the truck and rolling at 2:45 and I got to Fredonia, KS at 1:03pm..  My appointment wasn't until today (Tuesday) at 6:00a, but they let me in and unloaded me.

As Fredonia, KS is hardly the booming metropolis, I just went hammer down back to Houston.  In the yard at 12:45a and home by 1:15a.

Anyway, two pictures from the day:



You'd think I was going 105 instead of 75 . . .  ALL the big fleets and most of the O/O guys have slowed it right down.  I don't think I got passed more than a handful of times.  Of course, I'm  just a company hack and that is as fast as my truck will go.  





The Bryan County (OK) Sheriff's Dept. has some new toys and they don't mind showing them off.  Interesting mount for a Crown Vic.  


-p.