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Posted: 10/13/2016 6:25:24 PM EDT
Changing the gear juice in my 2001 TJ this weekend, looking for a recommendation on a quality differential cover sealant product?  And maybe a recommend for the gear juice too?

Thanks for your thoughts.

- Dan
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 6:26:08 PM EDT
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RTV don't forget to prep the area. Don't complicate things.

Edit: use Mobil1 in the recommended weight.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:09:37 PM EDT
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"The right stuff" by permatex.  It is more expensive than RTV, but it works.  It also has no set up time, and can be used immediately after application.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:12:13 PM EDT
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I like the gray permatex.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:15:11 PM EDT
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No paper gasket like Chebbys?
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:16:26 PM EDT
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Blue or Red Permatex.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:18:44 PM EDT
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Have you looked at lube locker gaskets
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:18:45 PM EDT
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Permatex makes some damn good products.  Get both surfaces very clean with acetone or similar and if the cover has any chrome sand it all off on the contact surface.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:19:09 PM EDT
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Lol no. You rI'll your own. I usually use high temp rtv, make sure the surfaces are super clean apply and let sit until tacky then torque the cover back on to spec. If you torque before letting it setup a bit you get a lot that squeezes out leaving it really thin in those areas.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:19:25 PM EDT
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Red RTV and Amsoil Severe Gear.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:19:40 PM EDT
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I switched to them...

Reusable and no mess or waiting...


Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:21:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:22:41 PM EDT
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I clean the surfaces with brake cleaner, and seal with permatex ultra black.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:27:15 PM EDT
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This is all I have ever done in my 24 years at the shop I work at.  Never had a comeback for a leaking cover.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:32:27 PM EDT
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LubeLocker




done
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:33:34 PM EDT
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"The right stuff" by permatex.  It is more expensive than RTV, but it works.  It also has no set up time, and can be used immediately after application.
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It's true. It really is the right stuff.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:35:56 PM EDT
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I like the gray permatex.
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This for gear oil
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:37:45 PM EDT
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It's true. It really is the right stuff.
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"The right stuff" by permatex.  It is more expensive than RTV, but it works.  It also has no set up time, and can be used immediately after application.


It's true. It really is the right stuff.


This. I use it all the time.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:38:43 PM EDT
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Loctite 5699 it's all we use
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:45:43 PM EDT
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This. I use it all the time.
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"The right stuff" by permatex.  It is more expensive than RTV, but it works.  It also has no set up time, and can be used immediately after application.


It's true. It really is the right stuff.


This. I use it all the time.


If you're not using "The Right Stuff" you're using the wrong stuff period.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 7:55:32 PM EDT
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Lol no. You rI'll your own. I usually use high temp rtv, make sure the surfaces are super clean apply and let sit until tacky then torque the cover back on to spec. If you torque before letting it setup a bit you get a lot that squeezes out leaving it really thin in those areas.
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Lol no. You rI'll your own. I usually use high temp rtv, make sure the surfaces are super clean apply and let sit until tacky then torque the cover back on to spec. If you torque before letting it setup a bit you get a lot that squeezes out leaving it really thin in those areas.





That's a very good point I forgot to mention, always let the RTV set up some before installing so it doesn't all squirt out.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:41:10 PM EDT
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If you're not using "The Right Stuff" you're using the wrong stuff period.
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"The right stuff" by permatex.  It is more expensive than RTV, but it works.  It also has no set up time, and can be used immediately after application.


It's true. It really is the right stuff.


This. I use it all the time.


If you're not using "The Right Stuff" you're using the wrong stuff period.


The only reason not to use Right Stuff is if you want to have to do re-do it.  I work for an off-road race team, we use it for most everything including third members.  If it holds up for multiple Baja 1000 wins on a trophy truck it should hold up for trips to the grocery store.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:49:10 PM EDT
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 I don't hate that at all.  Might go this route.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:52:26 PM EDT
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RTV or gasket.  Nod towards RTV or similar if it's beat.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:53:59 PM EDT
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I always use the black permatex its supposed to be more oil resistant. Do not use the blue rtv or the copper colored. Also I highhhhhly suggest following the directions to the T. Let it sit overnight or however long the directions say before filling the diff back up. Dont forget to use some on the bolts when you thread them in.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:54:45 PM EDT
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I like it and have used it with success but I'm a toyota FIPG convert now.  Form in place gasket, the best gasket maker/sealer I know of, also very cheap at any toyota dealership.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:55:21 PM EDT
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I always use the black permatex its supposed to be more oil resistant. Do not use the blue rtv or the copper colored. Also I highhhhhly suggest following the directions to the T. Let it sit overnight or however long the directions say before filling the diff back up. Dont forget to use some on the bolts when you thread them in.
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Do forget to do this, there's no reason to.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:56:26 PM EDT
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I've just used plain old black RTV.   Seems to work fine.


I'll probably buy some RightStuff when I redo the gasket for one of my valve covers this winter.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 8:59:52 PM EDT
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This for gear oil
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I like the gray permatex.


This for gear oil


I use it to seal trannies and diffs all the time.  Grey works great.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:01:49 PM EDT
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This is the answer.  Never go back to scraping or waiting again.  Pop off cover, wipe down, reinstall, fill and done.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:02:08 PM EDT
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This is all I have ever done in my 24 years at the shop I work at.  Never had a comeback for a leaking cover.
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I clean the surfaces with brake cleaner, and seal with permatex ultra black.



This is all I have ever done in my 24 years at the shop I work at.  Never had a comeback for a leaking cover.


+1

scotch brite or use a die grinder pad  and make it all shinny.....brake clean.....apply permatex.....button it up.  easy peezy.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:02:55 PM EDT
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Weld the cover on with no gasket.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:04:07 PM EDT
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It's true. It really is the right stuff.
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"The right stuff" by permatex.  It is more expensive than RTV, but it works.  It also has no set up time, and can be used immediately after application.


It's true. It really is the right stuff.

Yup

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Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:10:37 PM EDT
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"The right stuff", Gray, or black Permatex. I use all three, "The Right stuff" is really expensive though and the other two work just as well on that particular application. Someone earlier suggested Mobil 1 for your oil, but with oil that thick (85w-140), I've never noticed a difference in performance between different brands and synthetic vs conventional.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:10:39 PM EDT
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All I've ever used on my rigs. Never a single leak, and I don't go too crazy on the whole process. I just use a razor blade to scrape off the old gasket, wipe the surfaces with a towel, and squeeze the RTV onto the diff cover. I bolt the covers on and let them sit for an hour or two before filling with gear oil.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:13:03 PM EDT
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Yamabond or grey permatex

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Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:14:59 PM EDT
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This 100%. I changed the oil in the rear diff of my Jeep a few years back and thought I'd test the no set up claim. Took it for a drive of 30 miles or so right after tightening the bolts and adding oil. Never leaked.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:16:00 PM EDT
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I just did mine on my jk. The right stuff by permatex and royal purple 75w-90
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:18:15 PM EDT
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Thanks to all for the good information.

I ordered a pair of Lube Lockers to try them out.

Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:21:09 PM EDT
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You are driving a Toyota, use the Toyota FIPG! You don't need to let it set up before installing the cover. Fill with gear oil and don't worry.
As others have said clean off all remaining sealant and just wipe the surfaces down with brake cleaner.


Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:24:02 PM EDT
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THE BEST
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:26:52 PM EDT
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scotch brite or use a die grinder pad  and make it all shinny.....brake clean.....apply permatex.....button it up.  easy peezy.  
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I clean the surfaces with brake cleaner, and seal with permatex ultra black.



This is all I have ever done in my 24 years at the shop I work at.  Never had a comeback for a leaking cover.


+1

scotch brite or use a die grinder pad  and make it all shinny.....brake clean.....apply permatex.....button it up.  easy peezy.  


+2 from a former, by choice, mechanic.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:27:27 PM EDT
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Ultra high temp Permatex , In your favorite color . and synthetic name brand lube with Limited slip additive if needed
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:53:57 PM EDT
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The problem with using a die grinder on the differential housing is the grit that gets thrown into the assembly. It would be ok on the cover provided it gets a thorough cleaning afterwards. I prefer a razor blade scraper on cast iron. Keep the blade as flat as possible and the old gasket comes off clean as a whistle. Clean both surfaces with alcohol or brake cleaner afterwards. I prefer a gasket with no sealer, if both surfaces are clean no sealer is needed. If a sealer is necessary, RTV or ThreeBond is good, just don't over do it with the sealer. Use the gear oil brand of your choice of the correct weight. If it's a Limited Slip be sure to add the whale sperm also so the clutches can slip and not chatter in a turn.


Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:59:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2016 10:01:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2016 10:02:19 PM EDT
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The orange RTV sealant that we use at the shop sticks like babyshit to a blanket and does not leak even with rough surface prep.
I think it  used to be called Silastic and it's made for GM by Permatex.

The downfall is that's it's nearly impossible to clean off any surface once applied.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 10:45:34 PM EDT
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This for gear oil


Yep. Works well.
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 11:05:50 AM EDT
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I like it when I discover colored sealer. It's like a bright neon sign saying some idiots been tweaking inside!
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 11:14:10 AM EDT
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JB Weld
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