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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:10:00 PM EDT
[#1]
they have been making BS threats for the past 10 years bring it on sand monkeys
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:10:43 PM EDT
[#2]
War? No. There will be no war.
There will be car bombs and other underhanded shit that we cant fight against. Any war that will be fought will be with your CCW piece as you go get coffee. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:11:16 PM EDT
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Honestly...I don't think so. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:11:51 PM EDT
[#4]
I agree. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:12:26 PM EDT
[#5]
an arab/american war would last about a half-hour. First half hour would be the arabs attacking and then the rest would be Americans shooting and burning every muslim and muslim looking person in the country.
end of "war". |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:13:07 PM EDT
[#6]
No.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:13:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Really why not? Think about it. It really woldnt be that hard, Whats going to stop a small group of terrorists from walking into a mall, or packed movie theater? Russia comes to mind. Thats true. About the only way to fight it would be CCW. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:13:20 PM EDT
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I keep a carbine in the trunk and a .45 on the hip for just such occasions. I guess I'm just a well armed boy scout
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:13:49 PM EDT
[#9]
No. I'm weak and defenseless.
And guns scare me. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:15:16 PM EDT
[#10]
Yes, in fact, it would. The reason they get away with that shit in Israel is that there is a whole country full of people sympathetic to them that will support them, help them plan and provide willing suicide bombers and shooters. There is not that supply of people in the US. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:15:28 PM EDT
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I wouldnt say I am preparing for a war...but after 9/11 I did up my arsenel a bit.
I seriously dont expect to ever use my SHTF gear, but just the same, I am happier knowing I have the stuff I need to bug out if ever the need presents itself. I was always into backpacking, camping, and wilderness survival stuff...I just bring an M4 now when I go  Ground war....prob not.....prepared...as much as a civilian reasonably needs to be. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:16:27 PM EDT
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Planning for at least the possibility of a ten year civil war.
Remote arable land with open polenated heritage seeds. Fuel lots of ammo Making mutual protection agreements with patriots in neighboring states. It is all about logistics. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:17:50 PM EDT
[#13]
And just what are you going to do to stop it? |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:18:52 PM EDT
[#14]
Yes-absolutely. I participate in the NEIN forums on Homeland Security, and I firmly believe attacks will occur in the U.S. My wife and I are just about as well-defended as people can be...maybe I need to get her a Black Rifle in blue! HH |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:19:06 PM EDT
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It's just a matter of when. We have been training in anti-terrorist and WMD classes for some time. Our amount of training has increased and every instructor we've had has said that their information is that an attack is coming. I'm thinking our biggest strength is the armed citizen.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:23:11 PM EDT
[#16]
exactly. what war? they can keep hitting us with whatever(planes, trains, automobiles and john candy) there isn't much we can do to stop them. do you think they are going to attack your neighborhood with 500 extremist waiving AK47's screaming allah ackbar? this is not a war you can fight with your guns and ammo. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:25:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Sure it is. Ive read that many terrorist attacks in Israel have been stopped by civilians carrying firearms. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:28:14 PM EDT
[#18]
Nope. Wet dream...
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:32:16 PM EDT
[#19]
Come on. Who are you kidding?
Terrorist attacks against America have slowly been increasing and are becoming more and more devastating. Like they say. Put a frog in boiling water and he'll jump out. But slowly turn up the heat and he'll boil to death. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:33:04 PM EDT
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Well, if reading AOL msg. forumsis any indication, I wonder if there aren’t sympathizers here already. Meaning the Atlanta shooter is being hailed by a lot of ppl as being a hero, and “killing off all the rednecks and judges” is a good idea.
I won’t go as far as to say supporters, but a whole lot of people jumping on the bandwagon. Look at the LA. riots. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:36:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Yes, if a problem occurs, my neighbors and I are ready to be self sufficient for a good long while. We could even probably help some of our relatives. Our biggest problem would be petrol. It goes quickly. I don't forsee actual combat with terrorists. That's not a big concern here on our little mountain ridge. That doesn't mean we don't have tens of thousands of rounds up here. There just wouldn't be much reason for a terrorist to take over our little ridge.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:36:34 PM EDT
[#22]
911 was not BS. The "Sand Monkeys" Hit us pretty hard. The USS Cole was not BS either, so be carefull when you ask them to 'Bring it on". |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:39:05 PM EDT
[#23]
I think its over due. Depends on what form it takes, we may or may not be able to make a difference with armed vigilance. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:42:29 PM EDT
[#24]
A war, no. That would be way to strong of a word considering what our men and women are currently facing overseas. Serious attack(s)? Yes, I do expect them to strike again in a very vicious manner. But I suspect it will take them several years to get themselves organized. Am I preparing? As best as I can. KOTB |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:42:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Not to forget israel is on a far smaller scale than USA and they have yet to cause extreme panic and chaos in Israel. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:47:53 PM EDT
[#26]
don't expect an all out ground war, but do expect an increase in car and suicide bombings, mostly in the northern more populated states.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:50:55 PM EDT
[#27]
I've been 'prepared' for everything I can think of since the '94 northridge quake wiped my shit out and I was caught almost completely UNprepared.
I'm ready. 
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:55:15 PM EDT
[#28]
There are extensive ethnic communities in America where all manners of foreign evildoers have already found refuge. The acts of terrorism have been going on for a long time. Only the more spectacular ones make the news. Watch the Southwest border, sooner or later it's gonna get ugly.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:59:55 PM EDT
[#29]
I would bet there will be a civil war between liberals and conservatives or a regional war between Mexicans in America and Americans before you will see a civil war between towel heads and your average Jeff Foxworthy listener. And I laugh my #*$ off at Jeff's comedy! But, on the other hand, like a boy scout, "All ways be prepared!" The words to live by, "You have NO idea what will happen in the next 5 minutes, so live your life, be happy, but never let your guard down." |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:00:03 PM EDT
[#30]
I prepare for alot of things and I guess that is one of them. Doubt I'll ever need to use any of it. I live in an area very unlikely to be hit by terrorists but who knows.
Will they hit us again? You bet. I think it will be this year, not on as grand a scale as 9/11 but several medium sized attacks at about the same time. I also think our schools are woefully unprotected. I also think the socialists and even some republicans will use it all as a justification to step all over the Constitution. I take my duty as an armed citizen and member of the civilian militia seriously. We all should but of course most don't. I'm pretty well prepared but one can never truly be prepared for every eventuality. Your brain is your greatest weapon. Always. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:01:36 PM EDT
[#31]
My hometown (League City) has the most CCW's (per capita) in the State of Texas
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:07:54 PM EDT
[#32]
There are extensive ethnic communities in America where all manners of foreign evildoers have already found refuge. The acts of terrorism have been going on for a long time. Only the more spectacular ones make the news. Watch the Southwest border, sooner or later it's gonna get ugly.
[Texas]Well, they start that crap on US soil, it ain't gonna be purty... we ain't started playin' cowboys and a-rabs yet.[/Texas] They blow up a nursery school or movie theater, even the soccer moms will be buying AR's and screaming for their blood. There'll be 7-11's burning all over the place. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:08:14 PM EDT
[#33]
What is going on right now is just like every other war when the government uses a "crisis" to increase their size and powers. Attack or no attack we are losing our freedom. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:34:46 PM EDT
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I think we are on a similar path as the Roman Empire that our gov't base upon.
And just like the Romans our country and our way of life will slowly crumble from within. When enough deterioration has set in, a simple push by the "barbarian hordes" will knock us out. Just as the Romans did, America has risen to the pinnacle of military and economic power. It's all downhill from here. Have we learned the lessons from the past or are we destined to repeat them? Time will tell. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:53:45 PM EDT
[#35]
People have a lot of misconceptions about the fall of Rome. By the time the Germans conquered the Roman Empire they were as well equipped and well trained as the Romans. Rome no longer used legions (outdated since Adrianople), and both sides relied primarily on heavy, well-armored cavalry (early knights). When Mustafa figures out how to build an M1 and land it in Texas I'll be worried.  Oh, and post 223 w00t! |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:11:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Yes they do.
Well, sorta...
Negative. When Rome (and the Western Roman Empire) fell in 476, the Roman army was still composed of infantry legions. Unfortunately for the Romans, they had outsourced their military (and many of their emperors) to the Germans, specifically the Goths, as Romans could no longer be bothered to fight for the state. It didn't help that the state was a parasitic monster that was sucking the life blood from the more productive provinces in order to sustain a decaying interior. Most of the truly Roman legions were wasted in the multitude of civil wars. Shortly after the fall of Rome, the Eastern Roman Empire reorganized their military into a more calvary oriented force better suited for dealing with the steppe nomads than the slow moving legions. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:17:17 PM EDT
[#37]
What do you think these guns are for?
I don't think right now it is a huge possibility, well a huge WAR kind of deal. Popping terrorists sure, so fought with CCW like was said earlier (cali and NY are soooooooooo screwed). But never know in 20 years someone might be dumb enough to try to invade, and they will die. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:27:57 PM EDT
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Have you not ever seen an anti-GWBush protest?!? There are millions of seditious radical hippies, Aztlaners, NOIs, MS-13s, streetgangs, ELFs, anarchists and assorted other fifth column traitors who would side with the enemy, ANY enemy of America in an instant. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:32:04 PM EDT
[#39]
Mark my words - next big terrorist strike will be met with tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of radical anti-American protesters right here in America all demanding we pull out of Iraq, stop the war on terror and impeach GWBush for being a war criminal. HE will get the blame for forcing them to come here and attack us to stop our "illegal war" over there. And they'll find lots of sympathetic coverage and support from the mainstream media, half of Congress and the entire "international community". |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:39:03 PM EDT
[#40]
It's coming.............forgien or domestic I don't know yet
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:41:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Well think about this for a second...
1 It is very easy to find ample amount of suicide bombers in a population of young people who don't hold much hope for the future. 2 to effectively hit "soft targets" in the US, it would take some time and planning. Which generally means that the terrorists would need to be in this country for a couple of months atleast. Being in this country, and seeing all that life can offer, it will be hard to get that many people to die in a sustained campaign. Now I know that the responses will include "what about the 9/11 terrorists? They were hear for months/years?" I understand that, but they weren't that many people, and it was not a sustained campaign. There will always be zealots that want to hurt American Citizens, but not enough for anykind of sustained terror campaign. The zealots tent to pop up on the radar of the powers that be, especially post 9/11. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:45:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Thanks for echoing the doomsaying of every fucking LLLiberal "Professor". Besides theh tiny little fact that the Roman Empire prevailed for almost a 1000 years, they had nowhere near our strength and disparity with competing forces. The ONLY thing that will bring us down is OURSELVES. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:51:07 PM EDT
[#43]
Islamic fundamentalists won't attack America headon, so your CCW and pile of larger weapons will have to continue to wait for the zombie hordes to invade. Bin Laden, Zawahiri, Zarqawi and the rest of the leadership of various terror groups and cells have little to no interest in killing Joe Schmoe in BFE, America, though they certainly would celebrate the deaths of any non-Muslims, or Apostate Muslims. The attacks willcontinue to be symbolic strikes, such as the WTC and Pentagon strikes were; meant to cause severe panic and destablization, the # of deaths is irrelevant, though I'm sure the more the better. Suicide and other explosive attacks are the preferred methods, because there is little to no chance of failure. If you think the Islamic fundamentalists are going to make a frontal assault, you're living in a dream world, too much chance of failure, as far as a couple of them taking over a mall, why take it over when you can just level it with ANFO, or whatever the heck else they're using these days. Pardon the long winded post, but all I do all day is study these nutcases and discuss future ops
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:56:30 PM EDT
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No. Constantine reorganized the military in about 318 A.D. around the Cataphractoi (heavy cavalry). During that time the infantry gradually degenerated into a militia when the Roman state started paying them in land located on the frontier because it didn't have the currency. After the battle of Adrianople in 378, infantry was considered to be almost completely obsolete. By the time the western empire fell in 476 its armies really weren't any better than the Germans. In fact, as you point out, there was little difference between the German armies and the Roman ones, and they were often interchangeable depending on how ticked off a particular general was at any given point in time. Point is that the fall of Rome was a war of equals, and while the Islamists are a threat, they are no where near being able to beat us on the battlefield.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 11:07:51 PM EDT
[#45]
nope
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Posted: 3/14/2005 11:29:25 PM EDT
[#46]
+1 Many armies have had a better chance of attacking this country and didn't for many reasons but the biggest being that our citizens have a lot of small arms. To think that we will need stored gas and food is crazy. The attacks that will take place will be small, very planned out and I be willing to bet you will have little or no chance to make a difference with a CCW or even a rifle. They are not going after a "body count" They want to disrupt our economy, ruin our money, cause our banks to fail. They could care less about 300 dead citizens. They want the US citizens to feel fear, disrupt our daily lives and make us all uneasy. Right now it is all a psychological and money war. The only things you may get to shoot would be other Americans after say, they knocked out a major power grid and civil unrest took place, as for the 400 towels running down the street at 4am with AK's a RPG's, not going to happen anytime soon.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 12:18:17 AM EDT
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My guns are always loaded and ready to deploy.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 12:29:39 AM EDT
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you are my hero. also have the carbine in the trunk just waiting for my ccw. if shit goes down I like knowing Im prepared. I am. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 1:17:12 AM EDT
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and D.C. - it sucks, I work there |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 1:43:08 AM EDT
[#50]
Not right now and my Tin Foil hat is a tad bigger than most peoples.
BTW, the Rome analogy doesn't quite fit since although the city fell the empire went on in the east for hundreds of years after the fall of the city. The empire did contract and that we will do as well without Washington being taken over such as pulling out of Europe. Tj |
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