My sister asked me if there was anything she could do to protect her family.

In my mind you are either immune or you are not.

Is there any way to hedge your bet this comming season?  Besides washing your hands?

Any over the counter products to have on hand?

Tamiflu... need a prescription and its expensive.

Under 60 bucks to fill at Costco. Some docs are reluctant, but some will still write it as of today.

I'd bet Docs will soon be ORDERED not to prescribe it as it must be stockpiled. Insurance companies are already wise and will not pay for it in most cases.

Skeptics can get a "proof test" of their immune system should this hit.

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Wal-Mart has various Value Packs of WWB & UMC that can be had over-the-counter.  Cures all diseases, ailments, syndromes and disorders.

In testing it has taken 8 courses of Tamiflu to help against H5N1, see if you can get a doc to write you a script for 8 courses per family member....

yeah lock yourself in your house and do not leave or answer your door. seal all doors and windows. How does this flu differ from anyother flu?

Besides what is up with all of the HYPE?

Where are they getting the numbers of potential fatalities, OK I do realize that 60 are dead from it, but are we getting the full story?

I may be cynical but the hairs are standing on the back of my neck whenever this topic comes up, to me something does not add up. it's like 2+2=3. we are not getting the full information....

Quoted: Under 60 bucks to fill at Costco. Some docs are reluctant, but some will still write it as of today. I'd bet Docs will soon be ORDERED not to prescribe it as it must be stockpiled. Insurance companies are already wise and will not pay for it in most cases. Skeptics can get a "proof test" of their immune system should this hit.

Not to mention, some docs are starting to buy it to hoard.  Pretty soon, you won't be able to get it at all.  

When the shit hits the fan, us common folk are gonna be well fooked.  

In the meantime, start taking ass loads of vitamin c now.  Make sure it's not Ester-C.  

Get at least 20 minutes of sun a day...an hour if you have the chance.  NO sunblock, either.  

Quoted: In testing it has taken 8 courses of Tamiflu to help against H5N1, see if you can get a doc to write you a script for 8 courses per family member....

You can go to Tamiflu.com to get the real information on this and avoid info like this.

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Quoted: yeah lock yourself in your house and do not leave or answer your door. seal all doors and windows. How does this flu differ from anyother flu?

I'd say it's the 65% mortality rate .  Right now, it's not spread human to human.  WHEN it mutates into a virus that can be spread human to human, as is the "traditional" flu, look out world.  

Like I said earlier, we *may* cut the death rate down to 30% here in the U.S., but do the math...if 10 million folks get it, that's 3,000,000 dead.  If 50,000,000 get it...well, let's just say that's TEOTWAWKI.  

May not happen this year...but sooner or later, that strain will mutate to human to human...it's only a matter of time.  

Normally, the flu only kills babies and old people, and even then, the percentage is pretty small.  The 1918 pandemic killed the young and the physically fit....you could be healthy on Tues. and dead by Wednesday, literally.  Pretty scary.  

Now, through the medical establishment's inablility to deal with anything like this on a grand scale, and you've got the makings for some really fun times.  

Quoted: Tamiflu... need a prescription and its expensive.

According to some articles posted in the SF Tamiflu will not work against the bird flu. I'm not positive on that though.

Best advice, get some masks (P100 and N95), wash your hands often, especially before you eat. Don't touch your face or put your fingers in your mouth. Don't eat food that others have had their hands in (ie bowls of potato chips, snacks, etc.). If it gets real bad you may have to self quarantine.

I'm not relying on any vaccines on this one. Too many possible mutations. From what I understand it would be kind of a crap shoot buying the right medication. Besides, Tamiflu is extremely expensive.

[EFJR] Tamiflu, if you can get it a prescription and afford it $60 a course for your family.  Some reports indicate that it may not be totaly effective with avian flu.  It only has a shelf life of (I think) two years so plan accordingly.

Get a regular flu and pneumovax vaccines.  Regular flu shot won't prevent avian flu, but you do not want to get the regular flu and then the avian flu.  Pneumovax vaccine will help prevent pneumonia.

Here is some good reading on avian flu.  Not sure if it's 100% accurate, but ...
fluwikie.com/uploads/Consequences/NewGuideOct5.pdf

Oh ... and wash your hands  Good advice even if this turns out to be the chicken little flu.

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Tamiflu is not a vaccine.  It is designed to be taken once you have the flu.  What is does is to lessen the effects of the flu.  That means you have a better chance of survival than if you didn't take it.

Tamiflu is not expensive.  If you have a prescription, you can get a course of it for about $60.

That's probably less than you you pay on ammo for one trip to the range.

You have to get droplets on you....stay out of walmart if it comes.

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First thing to consider is that H5N1 is not transferable from person to person, it is possible that it could mutate to be so, whether or not that will happen, or when it will happen is very unclear.

Tamiflu does reduce the effects of the virus and therefore makes it less likely the flu will allow you to get another disease that will kill you.

If the virus becomes transferable from human to human I think tamiflu will become next to impossible to get (there is reportedly only one factory in the world that makes it).  Additionally for it to be effective it has to be taken very early in the process (like first 12 hours of having symptoms).

The easiest solution is to just buy a course of Tamiflu for each family member, store it away and hope you never need it.  

I'm not a doctor but I believe it is unlikely this strain will hit us in the near future, but if it does I am prepared as best I can be at this time.

Quoted: First thing to consider is that H5N1 is not transferable from person to person, it is possible that it could mutate to be so, whether or not that will happen, or when it will happen is very unclear. Tamiflu does reduce the effects of the virus and therefore makes it less likely the flu will allow you to get another disease that will kill you. If the virus becomes transferable from human to human I think tamiflu will become next to impossible to get (there is reportedly only one factory in the world that makes it).  Additionally for it to be effective it has to be taken very early in the process (like first 12 hours of having symptoms). The easiest solution is to just buy a course of Tamiflu for each family member, store it away and hope you never need it.   I'm not a doctor but I believe it is unlikely this strain will hit us in the near future, but if it does I am prepared as best I can be at this time.

you have to take it with the first 48 hours of having symptoms.

Are there any other antivirals besides Tamiflu?

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The only safe precaution is abstinence.

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I am no doctor, but I have been following this story actively.

The other antiviral drug that works with H5N1 is Relenza.  It is an aerosol delivered drug, which is good for effectiveness reasons and not so good for stockpiling reasons (shelf life is one year I believe).  Tamilflu resistance is a big new complication to the bird flu story, and one worth watching.

Bird flu causes fluid in the lungs and the patient suffocates.  This is similar to the 1918 Pandemic flu, which also was a mutated avian flu.  

I warn you- this is supposition on my part- but if you cannot have antivirals (sufficient dosages) on hand then the next best thing (or a supplement) might be a portable home oxygen generator.  They are frequently used in nursing homes.  I don't know if they would offer a sufficient oxygen flow to make a difference but they would be better than the alternative.  The units are expensive, varying from a low of $375 (rebuilt) up to outrageous in price.  Also hospital beds- ones that can have the back lifted so the patient doesn't drown- would be in short supply in a pandemic.

There has been a lot of hype.  The key to surviving a pandemic is to NOT be one of the initial victims.  The first onslaught cuts through succeptible populations and the following waves of the flu would offer better survivability, as the flu would be modified by the victim's themselves.  When you hear about a 65% mortality rate keep this in mind.  Frankly I am surprised even 35% survive.

Most people in the world in 1918 were exposed to the pandemic virus.  Most people lived, so try to keep what the Press says in perspective.