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Posted: 5/1/2011 1:27:52 PM EDT
As someone that has had three S&W's, and all three were shit, I'm wondering if I should try a Taurus next. At least the Taurus's that I have looked at actually had the barrels on straight. I looked at a new S&W 63 yesterday and it was crooked as hell. Anyway, I read that Taurus is junk, but I've never owned one, so I don't really know.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:28:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 1:29:41 PM EDT by Another_Dude]
No.



eta: No, they aren't that bad. I actually own one and its functioned at 100% and looked going doing it.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:31:01 PM EDT
Been curious about this myself.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:32:45 PM EDT
I've got a model 85UL in .38spc and a model 605 in .357mag. They function as they should and I've not had any trouble with mine. I've also got a PT140 and a PT145. All have been carried in my CCW rotation with complete trust. Bring on teh haters.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:33:05 PM EDT
They can be. For the price you are not buying a guarantee of individual quality. So make sure if you buy a Taurus, you look it over personally.

As far as somthing comparable to a 63? A Taurus would probably make a great shooter.

Might have better luck buying vintage SW's for larger calibers though.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:34:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:36:20 PM EDT
my .38 special is a great gun. I would recommend a taurus revolver.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:36:50 PM EDT
I had a model 66 for many years and it was great, I shot some pretty hot handloads out of it over the years. I'd buy another if the price was right.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:37:04 PM EDT
This is a tag, looking for a 44 magnum for a girzz gun when out fishing in GTNP and YNP
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:37:54 PM EDT
I think their quality has steadily improved over the years.

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Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:41:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 1:42:05 PM EDT by otar]
I've got a 605 that is fine.
(2" .357)
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:42:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
I've owned several and they were all great and accurate shooters.

No problems whatsoever.

i bought a Taurus 617 ,doa,no ports. This was after I read a Gun Test magazine article comparing it to a 686 2" model. While Gun Test favored the S&W they liked the 617.

That's been at least 10 years ago. I've enjoyed the 617, it goes bang every time and is accurate,decent,not great trigger. What's not to like?

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:43:46 PM EDT
There hit or miss on the quality. My girlfreind and I both bought 357 mag CIA models and both of the guns froze up & had to be sent back. But Ive had a couple other ones that worked great.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:46:04 PM EDT
They must be doing something right. They've sold a bazillion Judges.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:46:33 PM EDT
I have 3. One I got 22 years ago (3" .357). I got a .38 Ultralite about 3 years ago. All have been great. I put a wolff spring kit in the Ultralite as soon as I got it. Great DA pull. I carry that in hot weather with shorts. I would buy another without question.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:47:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By chupacabras:
They must be doing something right. They've sold a bazillion Judges.


Fizzgig?! Is that Fizzgig? Great avatar.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:47:21 PM EDT
My buddy likes them...

I shot one of his and it went bang.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:47:24 PM EDT
I've considered getting a Taurus LW pocket gun... So Tag.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:48:13 PM EDT
The only problems with Taurus' I've ever heard of is the cylinder sometimes doesn't line up properly.

Also, the action is not as 'smooth' as a S&W.

Note: I've never experienced the cylinder problem
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:50:06 PM EDT
I've never had a problem with my M605
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:50:20 PM EDT
I love my little .357
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:51:58 PM EDT
pics of your revolvers?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:54:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By nsl:
As someone that has had three S&W's, and all three were shit, I'm wondering if I should try a Taurus next. At least the Taurus's that I have looked at actually had the barrels on straight. I looked at a new S&W 63 yesterday and it was crooked as hell. Anyway, I read that Taurus is junk, but I've never owned one, so I don't really know.


If you think Taurus is going to be any better than a Smith,I'd say that you are misinformed.What was wrong with your Smiths?What vintage?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 1:56:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 1:59:38 PM EDT by MatCat58]
Mod 85 made in 1994, works like it should every time, even filthy, I'm itchin for a used 7-shot 357 4" right now got my eyes out for a good price........

ETA:
Sorry for the shitty cell phone pic it was from last summer
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:00:27 PM EDT
I have a .22lr Taurus revolver, no issues.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:01:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
pics of your revolvers?


What you did there. I see it.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:02:47 PM EDT
I have a 627 - it's a straight shooter, never had any problems.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:07:22 PM EDT
We have two model 605s(?), 2” barrel .357, mine with a shrouded hammer, my wife’s has a completely enclosed hammer. Both work fine. Mine is about two years old and the action has gotten very smooth. My wife’s is less than a year old and is still a little rough.

I also have a model 94, 9 shot .22 revolver that is about 5 years old. The action on it has also gotten smoother over the years, but still has a very heavy trigger pull. I think this is due to the mechanics of rotating a 9 position ratchet (I don’t know the technical name of most parts) of a very small diameter at the back of the cylinder by the hand.

All have been great guns with no problems as well as my three Taurus semi-autos, PT945, PT92 and PT101P.

And I am currently considering one of the 8 shot .357s.

Dave
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:14:36 PM EDT
I didn't like my Taurus revolver (forget model #) and couldn't sell it fast enough.

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:17:33 PM EDT
I like my 85ul 5 shot .38 special +p. would buy another in a heartbeat.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:26:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:28:23 PM EDT
Basically the people who owns one like them and the people who never owned one hates them and think they are junk. I’ve had a model 66 for years and I’m very happy with it. I bought both of my sons a Taurus Tracker in .357, one 6” and the other 4”no problems with either. I got a Taurus in .44 mag and it broke before I got through the first box. Does that mean I hate Taurus now? No, it pissed me off, but I sent it back and they fixed it.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:34:11 PM EDT
I have 2 revolvers. 0 issues
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:38:36 PM EDT
If your S&W's were shit, I doubt Taurus will solve your issues.

I am curious how you got three POS Smiths.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 2:42:10 PM EDT
I've got a raging bull .454 that still goes bang when I pull the trigger. No complaints here.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:05:55 PM EDT
my dad has one and its been perfect
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:09:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By otar:
I've got a 605 that is fine.
(2" .357)


Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:12:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By pepe-lepew:
If your S&W's were shit, I doubt Taurus will solve your issues.

I am curious how you got three POS Smiths.


'specilly with that magic "I can see the barrel is on crooked" superman eyesight

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:15:18 PM EDT
I've owned three or four over the years, still have an 85 (snubby). They've all been fine.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:16:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
I've owned several and they were all great and accurate shooters.

No problems whatsoever.



This....also had a semi-auto 92AF.....never had any issue with any of my Taurus guns.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:22:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 3:24:18 PM EDT by ThatGuy91K]
Originally Posted By Another_Dude:
No.



eta: No, they aren't that bad. I actually own one and its functioned at 100% and looked going doing it.


Me too, I like mine. It's been a good little gun.

ETA: Pic

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:22:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Illini75:
Originally Posted By pepe-lepew:
If your S&W's were shit, I doubt Taurus will solve your issues.

I am curious how you got three POS Smiths.


'specilly with that magic "I can see the barrel is on crooked" superman eyesight



Last S&W I bought was at an in-store promotion at Scottsdale Gun Club; official S&W factory rep and gunsmith were there: "free trigger job if you buy one." So I bought one; he did his quick and dirty trigger job, I went directly to their indoor range. Gun shot way right, bullet holes showed tumbling. Took it back out to the factory rep. "You're jerking the trigger." Yeah, right, that's why the bullets were tumbling. Only then did I look closely. I could see the barrel was crooked. I hadn't looked before because I just bought one that was still in the box. "Oh, well," says the rep, "call this number and they'll send you a shipping box, so you can send it back to the factory." I did, they fixed it. Gun works fine now, but bottom line, yes, S&W let a gun out of the factory with the barrel installed crooked –– visibly crooked. No superman eyesight required.

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:23:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
I've owned several and they were all great and accurate shooters.

No problems whatsoever.

My experience as well.

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:25:24 PM EDT
I've never owned any Taurus stuff, but it seems they are good to go until you have to deal with their customer service.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:26:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mdguy90:
This is a tag, looking for a 44 magnum for a girzz gun when out fishing in GTNP and YNP

Take a look at the 4" Tracker. I have one and love it, but for me it's more of a novelty, as there aren't many grizzs to worry about round here. I did take a white tail from a tree stand @ about 25yrds with it though.

it's loud as hell.

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:26:17 PM EDT
I work for a Sporting goods store selling guns, up until a couple of months ago we would ship a gun with problems bought at our store for free. That changed because last year we spent $4700 in shipping charges, 90% of the guns that went in for repair were Taurus. I own a .454 Raging Bull and a couple of pump rimfires I bought 10 years ago, great guns, but what they put out today is a crap shoot.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:33:34 PM EDT
Taurus is the biggest failure generator in our inventory, primarily because we stopped selling Kel Tec products. The last Taurus that went back was a Judge, which had been finger fucked repeatedly by its owner. He never actually fired it, or even chambered a live round, and the hand and bolt still failed.

If I sell 1,000 Smith and Wesson guns, I expect ten of them to go back for warranty service.
If I sell 1,000 Taurus guns, I expect 100 of them to go back for warranty service. This means that 900 of them will never have a problem* but the failure rate is too high.

* Of the 1,000 Taurus guns sold, 600 will never fire more than fifty cartridges. 200 of them will probably never drop a hammer on a live round. They're shit.

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:46:36 PM EDT
I got my PT99 when they first came out and have put almost 1,000rds through it without a hitch. About the only gripe I have is the white paint on the front sight came off after a week...
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:50:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By chupacabras:
They must be doing something right. They've sold a bazillion Judges.


The Judge is a big steaming pile of rotting bear guts covered in chocolate syrup.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:57:26 PM EDT
My 941 is awesome.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 3:58:35 PM EDT
got a taurus .22, nothing wrong with it
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