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Should have stopped after four in my opinion. I'll still watch it though.
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Archer Vice II: Officially Out of Ideas
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You would :) Already set up on my DVR. Archer is the funniest show on TV I don't understand why some of you don't like it. View Quote Its not that we don't like it, we don't like what it has become, which is a shallow shell of its former self. Archer seasons 1 - 4 were some of the funniest TV I think I've ever watched... and then the writer just seemed to run out of good ideas / good jokes and started coasting. With each successive season the show coasts more and more and the cast's strained "improv" gets weaker and weaker. Season 7 had to be the worst season of the show I've ever watched, "Archer Vice" included. How it didn't get cancelled then is beyond me. All the actually witty "funny" has been drained out and replaced with wrote callback jokes and a bunch of non-joke failed improv and stalling "wait I had something for this" lines. It is like watching a once hilarious comedian you love slip into dementia... and all you are left with are shitty adult diapers and drool. |
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I like Nostalgia so this will be awesome.
Also he's carrying a 1911! I figured the fan boys would be drooling! ![]() |
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I loved Vice seriously.
One of the funniest moments I think is when Cyril, Archer, Ray were in the back of the FJ in where ever central America and the drivers wrecked and Archer screamed "Ray don't eat the keys" and Ray screamed "I'm not eating the god damned keys". Gets me every time I don't know why. Plus hot Pam all coked out. |
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Its not that we don't like it, we don't like what it has become, which is a shallow shell of its former self. Archer seasons 1 - 4 were some of the funniest TV I think I've ever watched... and then the writer just seemed to run out of good ideas / good jokes and started coasting. With each successive season the show coasts more and more and the cast's strained "improv" gets weaker and weaker. Season 7 had to be the worst season of the show I've ever watched, "Archer Vice" included. How it didn't get cancelled then is beyond me. All the actually witty "funny" has been drained out and replaced with wrote callback jokes and a bunch of non-joke failed improv and stalling "wait I had something for this" lines. It is like watching a once hilarious comedian you love slip into dementia... and all you are left with are shitty adult diapers and drool. View Quote problem is that they evolved the show too quickly, before getting full mileage out of what they already had. basically, both of the babies were bad ideas that almost immediately stagnated the show. the wee baby seamus wasn't as great a sin because he was a sideshow, but AJ has to be dealt with in every single episode, and she's a millstone around the writers' necks. and as i've mentioned in other threads, converting archer from the jackass version of james bond to the jackass version of inspector clouseau also helped kill the show. but i'll watch every episode until the damn thing is finally canceled. ![]() |
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Love the new era, the show is weaker than the first few seasons but I'll still watch it
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Archers mom trying to explain WIC and then finishing with I don't know I'm not a democrat! I about pissed myself laughing
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So given the subtitle "Dreamland," and that we last saw archer floating facedown in a pool, is this some coma-induced hallucination of his, or just a complete redo?
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I will give it a shot. Compared to Archer Vice, how bad can it be?
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problem is that they evolved the show too quickly, before getting full mileage out of what they already had. basically, both of the babies were bad ideas that almost immediately stagnated the show. the wee baby seamus wasn't as great a sin because he was a sideshow, but AJ has to be dealt with in every single episode, and she's a millstone around the writers' necks. and as i've mentioned in other threads, converting archer from the jackass version of james bond to the jackass version of inspector clouseau also helped kill the show. but i'll watch every episode until the damn thing is finally canceled. ![]() View Quote The babies and Barry. Not that Barry doesn't play a good role, but I think they wrote too much around him (and used him to fuck up other good subplots) |
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Archers mom trying to explain WIC and then finishing with I don't know I'm not a democrat! I about pissed myself laughing View Quote ![]() Failed To Load Title |
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I've liked all the season, but I will admit that that some are funnier than others. They could have kept the original format going for longer, but I like the different themes for seasons, although season 7 wasn't really the best.
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The babies and Barry. Not that Barry doesn't play a good role, but I think they wrote too much around him (and used him to fuck up other good subplots) View Quote agreed. he should have remained a satellite character for a while. it was like the showrunners had envisioned the entire trajectory of a good show, and tried to cram it all into a couple of seasons instead of just letting it play out. |
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I loved Vice seriously. One of the funniest moments I think is when Cyril, Archer, Ray were in the back of the FJ in where ever central America and the drivers wrecked and Archer screamed "Ray don't eat the keys" and Ray screamed "I'm not eating the god damned keys". Gets me every time I don't know why. Plus hot Pam all coked out. View Quote On rewatching vice I really really liked it. |
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You guys arent getting the joke. This is, like most things Archer, a parody. This time of the "main hero of the show is in a coma flashback episode/season" from such excellent examples of Magnum P.I., House, Sopranos and MacGyver. Holy shitsnacks, this is TV gold you thoughtless bastards.
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agreed. he should have remained a satellite character for a while. it was like the showrunners had envisioned the entire trajectory of a good show, and tried to cram it all into a couple of seasons instead of just letting it play out. View Quote 75% of the cast should have remained satellite characters. The babies were millstones yes, but the illogical need to shoe-horn every single ancillary cast member in every episode has turned them from the occasional quirky, funny addition into repetitious one note retreads. As for the show itself I doubt it had much of a "plan" beyond the premise. Adam Reed is well known for coming up with white-hot hilarious premises (usually while blackout shitfaced drunk) that burn themselves out very quickly. Then he sobers up, flails at keeping the show going and winds up skewing the whole thing into absurdity, callbacks and cliche (see Sealab, Frisky Dingo, etc.). |
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75% of the cast should have remained satellite characters. The babies were millstones yes, but the illogical need to shoe-horn every single ancillary cast member in every episode has turned them from the occasional quirky, funny addition into repetitious one note retreads. As for the show itself I doubt it had much of a "plan" beyond the premise. Adam Reed is well known for coming up with white-hot hilarious premises (usually while blackout shitfaced drunk) that burn themselves out very quickly. Then he sobers up, flails at keeping the show going and winds up skewing the whole thing into absurdity, callbacks and cliche (see Sealab, Frisky Dingo, etc.). View Quote ![]() |
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75% of the cast should have remained satellite characters. The babies were millstones yes, but the illogical need to shoe-horn every single ancillary cast member in every episode has turned them from the occasional quirky, funny addition into repetitious one note retreads. As for the show itself I doubt it had much of a "plan" beyond the premise. Adam Reed is well known for coming up with white-hot hilarious premises (usually while blackout shitfaced drunk) that burn themselves out very quickly. Then he sobers up, flails at keeping the show going and winds up skewing the whole thing into absurdity, callbacks and cliche (see Sealab, Frisky Dingo, etc.). ![]() He's correct. |
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75% of the cast should have remained satellite characters. The babies were millstones yes, but the illogical need to shoe-horn every single ancillary cast member in every episode has turned them from the occasional quirky, funny addition into repetitious one note retreads. As for the show itself I doubt it had much of a "plan" beyond the premise. Adam Reed is well known for coming up with white-hot hilarious premises (usually while blackout shitfaced drunk) that burn themselves out very quickly. Then he sobers up, flails at keeping the show going and winds up skewing the whole thing into absurdity, callbacks and cliche (see Sealab, Frisky Dingo, etc.). View Quote Sounds like they need more of that. Send baby to live with grandparents, demote Ray, Kreiger, Pam, and Cheryl/carol/whomever to every other episode status. |
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YEESSS!!
It's gonna' be great! Of course, I said the same thing about the Walking Dead spin-off the name of which I can't even remember at the moment. ETA: At least it's got 1911s and Tommy Guns! |
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So given the subtitle "Dreamland," and that we last saw archer floating facedown in a pool, is this some coma-induced hallucination of his, or just a complete redo? Mike View Quote Sounds like it's going to be a dream sequence, probably while Archer is recovering form the shooting. Following season is probably Archer pursues his shooter, possibly while still in his dream persona with hilarity as 1947 Archer tries to function in 2017 world. |
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Archer was signed for 10 seasons, I thought.
Ah, well. Even if it isn't as good as the first few seasons, it's still amusing enough to watch. Looks like it's a coma-inspired flashback seen through Archer's fucked subconscious. Season 9 will probably pick up with Archer dead, in a coma, or perfectly fine with no one mentioning how he's still alive/a cyborg. |
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problem is that they evolved the show too quickly, before getting full mileage out of what they already had. basically, both of the babies were bad ideas that almost immediately stagnated the show. the wee baby seamus wasn't as great a sin because he was a sideshow, but AJ has to be dealt with in every single episode, and she's a millstone around the writers' necks. and as i've mentioned in other threads, converting archer from the jackass version of james bond to the jackass version of inspector clouseau also helped kill the show. but i'll watch every episode until the damn thing is finally canceled. ![]() View Quote |
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I loved Vice seriously. One of the funniest moments I think is when Cyril, Archer, Ray were in the back of the FJ in where ever central America and the drivers wrecked and Archer screamed "Ray don't eat the keys" and Ray screamed "I'm not eating the god damned keys". Gets me every time I don't know why. Plus hot Pam all coked out. View Quote |
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I can't believe you guys dissing Archer Vice; between the Smokey and the Bandit episode and the entire San Marcos series that was TV gold.
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Its not that we don't like it, we don't like what it has become, which is a shallow shell of its former self. Archer seasons 1 - 4 were some of the funniest TV I think I've ever watched... and then the writer just seemed to run out of good ideas / good jokes and started coasting. With each successive season the show coasts more and more and the cast's strained "improv" gets weaker and weaker. Season 7 had to be the worst season of the show I've ever watched, "Archer Vice" included. How it didn't get cancelled then is beyond me. All the actually witty "funny" has been drained out and replaced with wrote callback jokes and a bunch of non-joke failed improv and stalling "wait I had something for this" lines. It is like watching a once hilarious comedian you love slip into dementia... and all you are left with are shitty adult diapers and drool. View Quote ![]() |
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75% of the cast should have remained satellite characters. The babies were millstones yes, but the illogical need to shoe-horn every single ancillary cast member in every episode has turned them from the occasional quirky, funny addition into repetitious one note retreads. As for the show itself I doubt it had much of a "plan" beyond the premise. Adam Reed is well known for coming up with white-hot hilarious premises (usually while blackout shitfaced drunk) that burn themselves out very quickly. Then he sobers up, flails at keeping the show going and winds up skewing the whole thing into absurdity, callbacks and cliche (see Sealab, Frisky Dingo, etc.). ![]() |
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But he writes a great newsletter! He says the things I'm thinking. Or trying to think. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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75% of the cast should have remained satellite characters. The babies were millstones yes, but the illogical need to shoe-horn every single ancillary cast member in every episode has turned them from the occasional quirky, funny addition into repetitious one note retreads. As for the show itself I doubt it had much of a "plan" beyond the premise. Adam Reed is well known for coming up with white-hot hilarious premises (usually while blackout shitfaced drunk) that burn themselves out very quickly. Then he sobers up, flails at keeping the show going and winds up skewing the whole thing into absurdity, callbacks and cliche (see Sealab, Frisky Dingo, etc.). ![]() ![]() |
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Okay, I'll give you that - that was funny.
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