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Posted: 2/14/2001 2:54:52 PM EDT
Just thought some of you might find this interesting. A sub-compact .308?? Yup, someone made one. Here it is.....
[img]albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1242673&a=9213640&p=40969931[/img]
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 2:57:13 PM EDT
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[img]albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1242673&a=9213640&p=40969929[/img]
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 3:23:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2001 3:30:02 PM EDT
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Whered you get that? I just saw one (pic) recently, Cant remember where.
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 3:31:16 PM EDT
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I have actually seen several of those, and variants, at gun shows.
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 3:35:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2001 3:50:22 PM EDT
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Glad someone posted the pictures. I don't know much about FALs, but I am assuming that the recoil spring is located in the folding stock, and the gun cannot be fired without folding out the stock. Am I correct? If so what prevents somone from firing the weapon with the stock folded? The weapon must have one heck of a muzzle flash!
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 5:13:13 PM EDT
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Chopped down nicely.

Roughly the same size as the HK51 from the FJ Vollmer website.

[url]http://fjvollmer.com/x51a3.htm[/url]

[url]http://fjvollmer.com/online.htm[/url]

One day maybe....
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 5:22:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2001 5:42:36 PM EDT
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Actually in order for you to build a Para version of FAL- that's what the picture looks like to me, you need to get a special bolt carrier, Para top cover, two ways spring and a Para lower w/ folder.  You CAN NOT use the normal bolt carrier w/ rat tail.
The Para bolt carrier has an "O" shaped slot which a return spring can be put in, kinda like HK91 bolt carrier if you know what I am talking about. And yes, w/ this setup you can shoot a FAL w/ stock folded, if you so decide.
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 5:54:09 PM EDT
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The necessity to relocate the return springs on a para fal have caused some a great deal of torment, the fact is that gun will work fine, just fine, with the stock folded.

On the fixed stock models a tube is threaded into the lower and serves as a guide for the twin recoil springs and plunger.

On the Para models, a different top cover is used, one with a plate at the back, with multiple strong springs which handle the pressure and velocity of the bolt/carrier assy as it moves from battery, back to it's mechanical limits and then forward to strip a new round and travel back into battery.

Using a slightly different lower reciever, no lower tang to secure the buttstock, and no recoil tube, as on the full stock types, the para type differs in that it uses the threaded hole for the tube as the place where it secures, via a big screw, a two-piece aluminum folding knuckle, with a tubular stock pinned into the holes in the back of that knuckle.

The other different major component is the bolt carrier. Instead of a "rat tail" riveted into a slot in the rear, with a small plunger to return it to it's lower position, the para carrier has the top section bored out to accept the recoil springs.

The para top cover, has a lip stamped into the front of it in addition to the different recoil spring system. This is to secure the bolt/carrier and springs as one unit so you can easliy put it on the reciever and slide it into the slots where the top cover goes without having to fight the recoil springs, which are very strong, to make up for thier shorter length.

Hope this helped. D.
www.azexarms.com
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 6:00:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2001 7:47:54 PM EDT
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Why?  Please don't reply "Because".
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 7:57:20 PM EDT
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Ok, how about... why not?
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 7:59:35 PM EDT
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AWWW!  Isn't it cute? [:D]

Probably wouldn't want to be standing within 100 yards of it when it's being fired!
Link Posted: 2/14/2001 9:13:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2001 9:37:57 PM EDT
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The answer to a question nobody asked.
Link Posted: 2/15/2001 1:32:52 AM EDT
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[size=6]BECAUSE IT BE COOL![/size=6]
Link Posted: 2/15/2001 2:29:52 AM EDT
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For those who asked "Who?"
http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/home.htm

Pics were originally on www.fnfal.com, but I haven't looked to see if Mark put them up on his website.
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