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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:57:33 PM EDT
I hate McCain for opening the border for millions of illegal immigrants, but does anyone wanna vote for him just to piss the liberals off? Nothing's better than to see the "progressives" (AKA thought police/socialists) squirm for 4 more years.
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 3:20:30 PM EDT
Voting for McCain here. Sometimes you have to pick between the lesser of two evils. Our country is in bad shape and McCain is the lesser of two evils by a long shot. If you think things are screwed up now just wait and see what it will be like after fours years of Obama. Hopefully, that doesn't happen.
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 3:40:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2008 3:41:05 PM EDT by GGRNR]
I think everyone is voting for McCain, for this reason!
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 4:06:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SnakeLogan:
I hate McCain for opening the border for millions of illegal immigrants, but does anyone wanna vote for him just to piss the liberals off? Nothing's better than to see the "progressives" (AKA thought police/socialists) squirm for 4 more years.


It;s a fine point, but McCain didn't open up the border. It was already wide open, he just hasn't done anything to close it, like everyone else.
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 4:09:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2008 4:10:00 PM EDT by MTNmyMag]
McCain, because there is no other choice
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 4:15:05 PM EDT
I was die hard about voting for either Barr or Paul until the Heller ruling, which really truly shows this country is sick. We came within 1 liberal justice from what would have triggered a civil war in the future. Some people still don't understand how big that ruling was.

I will vote for McCain now only because we have a better shot at getting halfway decent judges into the courts. That's it. That's the only reason. Notice I said we only have a shot at it. Not that Juan will truly give us good judges. Anyone who trusts Juan McCain simply hasn't paid much attention to him. I still fully expect McCain to ram this country into the ground. We are fucked. Anyone who thinks McCain will be able to prevent this country from committing National Suicide is simply delusional. As long as the sheeple are still asleep and continue to settle for these idiots that the political elite give us we are fucked. But I'd rather be armed once the country is rammed into the ground than have to hide my arms.

Don't believe me? What will happen when Juan McCain allows millions of illegal aliens into this country and gives them Amnesty, citizenship and voting rights? Do you think they will all be great Republicans who understand the Constitution? Nope. They are even far more liberal than your average Starbucks drinking yuppy. Mexico was extremely close from electing a self admitted Marxist as President. How the fuck do you think they will vote when they get here?

I'm not even going to get into the fascist police state polices, the economy (value of the dollar keeps falling), and everything else. Until the sheeple wake the fuck up and stop defending the status quo and realize we're seriously off track things will continue to "progressively" get worse.
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 4:20:26 PM EDT
As long as you vote for McCain any reason will do.
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 4:28:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By s32:
As long as you vote for McCain any reason will do.


You did vote for Ron Paul in the primary (or you claim you did) right?
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 5:50:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OddballAZ:

Originally Posted By s32:
As long as you vote for McCain any reason will do.


You did vote for Ron Paul in the primary (or you claim you did) right?


I did but now it is general election time. McCain is usually conservative and Obama is a gun banning socialist.
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 7:15:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By s32:

Originally Posted By OddballAZ:

Originally Posted By s32:
As long as you vote for McCain any reason will do.


You did vote for Ron Paul in the primary (or you claim you did) right?


I did but now it is general election time. McCain is usually conservative and Obama is a gun banning socialist.


Then at least you did your part to try to keep the Republican party from going off the cliff. Many other people didn't.
Link Posted: 7/1/2008 10:22:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OddballAZ:

Then at least you did your part to try to keep the Republican party from going off the cliff. Many other people didn't.


Link Posted: 7/2/2008 5:05:03 AM EDT
I voted for ron paul in the primaries and would have been willing to settle for Huckabee in the general. but I will find my self writing in ron paul in because I can't consientiously vote for either of the two front runners and I definatly cannot consientiously not vote at all.
Link Posted: 7/2/2008 9:34:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2008 9:48:50 AM EDT by MrGreg]
Voting Barr to piss McCain voters off.
Link Posted: 7/2/2008 1:30:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:
Voting Barr to piss McCain voters off.


Obama thanks you. I can't wait for Obama to take your guns away, if you really have any.
Link Posted: 7/2/2008 5:01:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dillon72:
Voting for McCain here. Sometimes you have to pick between the lesser of two evils. Our country is in bad shape and McCain is the lesser of two evils by a long shot. If you think things are screwed up now just wait and see what it will be like after fours years of Obama.



+1

I hasten to add the POTUS may appointing 2-3 more USSC justices during the next 4 years as well. We can all look at Heller to see how important that can be, yes?
Link Posted: 7/2/2008 5:03:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2008 5:03:30 PM EDT by Melvinator2k0]
I want nothing more than to see the disappointment in Obama's face when he loses.
Link Posted: 7/2/2008 8:41:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2008 8:42:30 PM EDT by MrGreg]
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Originally Posted By DonofKalifornia:
Obama thanks you. I can't wait for Obama to take your guns away, if you really have any.


I'm not voting for someone who will most likely sign a bill banning private firearm transfers. He introduced legislation to do it too many times in his career, and I'm nearly sure he'd sign a bill on it if it came to his desk. McCain never earned my vote in the first place, so it's not like he's lost anything for me, and I'm never willing to settle for him. He's downright stinky, and everyone voting for him is encouraging more of the same kind of candidate in the future.
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 6:17:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:
I'm not voting for someone who will most likely sign a bill banning private firearm transfers. He introduced legislation to do it too many times in his career, and I'm nearly sure he'd sign a bill on it if it came to his desk. McCain never earned my vote in the first place, so it's not like he's lost anything for me, and I'm never willing to settle for him. He's downright stinky, and everyone voting for him is encouraging more of the same kind of candidate in the future.




And attitudes such as yours, sir, is ensuring a libtard in POTUS as well as appointing multiple SCOTUS justices to overturn the Heller decision. Instead of "encouraging" more of the same, perhaps we gun owners should ensure in the PRIMARIES that OUR candidates are in the general election instead of the RINO's, yes?

As for your concern about McCain signing this or that bill, dare I remind you that it HAS to go thru Congress first?
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 6:58:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:


As for your concern about McCain signing this or that bill, dare I remind you that it HAS to go thru Congress first?


And with a heavy Liberal ass congress after the next cycle... all signs point to it. What difference does any of it make. They will do everything in their power to stop McCnasty from appointing anyone even remotely conservative and as far as anti gun bills making it through congress I think they will stand a better chance then than they ever did before. Now I may be reading this all wrong but my uneducated ass doesn't see any positives coming out of this next election no matter who wins. I do see a big win for us four years after the liberals do their best to destroy this country.
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 9:25:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gungho_1989:

I do see a big win for us four years after the liberals do their best to destroy this country.


This assumes that there will be enough of a country left after four years of Obama-rama...
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 9:33:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

Originally Posted By DonofKalifornia:
Obama thanks you. I can't wait for Obama to take your guns away, if you really have any.


I'm not voting for someone who will most likely sign a bill banning private firearm transfers. He introduced legislation to do it too many times in his career, and I'm nearly sure he'd sign a bill on it if it came to his desk. McCain never earned my vote in the first place, so it's not like he's lost anything for me, and I'm never willing to settle for him. He's downright stinky, and everyone voting for him is encouraging more of the same kind of candidate in the future.


To be correct:

MCCAIN HAS NEVER INTRODUCED SUCH A BILL...

He has introduced a bill banning private-party transfers only at gun shows, and then he helped to kill it when it became about more than that one issue...

No one cares about the above issue anymore, so it's highly unlikely it would even come up for discussion....
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 11:08:44 AM EDT
It is still amusing to see that some fools do not understand that it isnt only the POTUS we're electing... but future SCOTUS justices, cabinet members, etc. You want Hitlery or Bill or some other whacked out liberal in charge of our military? Sec of State? Homeland Sec? Edu Sec? On and on. Think about it.

McCain is just the wrapping paper. What comes along with him is of far greater importance than voting for someone else just because you dont like McCain.

Fools, I say. Fools.

Vote for McCain, or else you're helping Obama. Plain and simple. I hope some of you nitwits learn that real quick.
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 12:36:59 PM EDT
He sure as hell wasn't my first choice.

Poor Fred Thompson.
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 12:58:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/3/2008 12:58:51 PM EDT by MrGreg]
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Originally Posted By BobCole:

And attitudes such as yours, sir, is ensuring a libtard in POTUS as well as appointing multiple SCOTUS justices to overturn the Heller decision. Instead of "encouraging" more of the same, perhaps we gun owners should ensure in the PRIMARIES that OUR candidates are in the general election instead of the RINO's, yes?

As for your concern about McCain signing this or that bill, dare I remind you that it HAS to go thru Congress first? hinking.gif


I did my part by voting Paul in the primaries. Unfortunately, he didn't make it much farther past that point. What, do you expect me to throw in the towel and simply accept a RINO now (like a lot of you), and, with a vote for him, convince the Republican Party that McCain is the kind of representative that I as a conservative want from them? Absolutely not.

As far as a bill going through congress, are you serious? Have you seen how many D's are in Congress compared to R's these days?

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Originally Posted By Dave_A:

To be correct:

MCCAIN HAS NEVER INTRODUCED SUCH A BILL...

He has introduced a bill banning private-party transfers only at gun shows, and then he helped to kill it when it became about more than that one issue...

No one cares about the above issue anymore, so it's highly unlikely it would even come up for discussion....


My mistake, you are correct, it was only about transfers at gun shows. Still, if he's willing to introduce that measure in two different Congress sessions, 5 years apart, the last one barely four years ago, it's clearly an issue that's not dead in his mind. Where do you get your insinuation that "no one cares about it anymore," anyhow? Do you honestly believe that a Democratic-controlled Congress would NOT try to push a measure through about private transfers, with either a McCain or Obama White House?
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 1:59:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gungho_1989:

And with a heavy Liberal ass congress after the next cycle... all signs point to it. What difference does any of it make. They will do everything in their power to stop McCnasty from appointing anyone even remotely conservative and as far as anti gun bills making it through congress I think they will stand a better chance then than they ever did before. Now I may be reading this all wrong but my uneducated ass doesn't see any positives coming out of this next election no matter who wins.



Certainly the most accurate thing you've written so far, sir................




I do see a big win for us four years after the liberals do their best to destroy this country.



How will it matter when they've repacked the SCOTUS with the likes of the Hildebeast (rumored to be a nominee from NObama) ???????
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 2:00:36 PM EDT
Voting McCain because someone I agree with 65% of the time is better than someone I agree with 5% of the time.

NObama '08.
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 2:06:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

I did my part by voting Paul in the primaries. Unfortunately, he didn't make it much farther past that point. What, do you expect me to throw in the towel and simply accept a RINO now (like a lot of you), and, with a vote for him, convince the Republican Party that McCain is the kind of representative that I as a conservative want from them? Absolutely not.



If you confuse "throwing in the towel" with keeping the libtards out of the WH along with SCOTUS & cabinet positions, then I'm afraid I can't make my arguement simple enough for you & others like you, sir...................



As far as a bill going through congress, are you serious? Have you seen how many D's are in Congress compared to R's these days?



A) Yes, I'm serious.

B) Yes, *I* am aware of the R/D split & numbers, thankyouverymuch. I'm also aware that many Southern Dims are pro-gun & many yankee Republicans are anti-gun. Many of us study politics all year long, every year, & not just when a POTUS campaign occurs, FWIW.
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 2:38:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BobCole:
If you confuse "throwing in the towel" with keeping the libtards out of the WH along with SCOTUS & cabinet positions, then I'm afraid I can't make my arguement simple enough for you & others like you, sir................... hinking.gif


Voting to destroy the Republican Party's principles and make people like McCain and Bush the star players of it just to keep Obama out of the White House sure is considered throwing in the towel to me. People who vote for McCain have to realize what they're doing to the RP, and how this will just make things worse 4 years down the line.

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B) Yes, *I* am aware of the R/D split & numbers, thankyouverymuch. I'm also aware that many Southern Dims are pro-gun & many yankee Republicans are anti-gun. Many of us study politics all year long, every year, & not just when a POTUS campaign occurs, FWIW.


So you think they would compromise enough on another AWB, yet not a "gun show loophole" measure? Odd way to look at it.
Link Posted: 7/3/2008 2:54:46 PM EDT
My voting strategy getdrunkandvote4mccain.com/

The pics of the drunks are hilarious!

Link Posted: 7/3/2008 3:17:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By m1garand__man:
I voted for ron paul in the primaries and would have been willing to settle for Huckabee in the general. but I will find my self writing in ron paul in because I can't consientiously vote for either of the two front runners and I definatly cannot consientiously not vote at all.


+1
Link Posted: 7/4/2008 3:59:31 PM EDT
I am voting McCain because the alternative is unacceptable.
Link Posted: 7/4/2008 4:23:27 PM EDT
I'm voting for McCain because no one nominated me for the Presidency.

<­BR>

Fuckers.

Link Posted: 7/4/2008 5:57:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/4/2008 5:58:06 PM EDT by BobCole]

Originally Posted By MrGreg: Voting to destroy the Republican Party's principles and make people like McCain and Bush the star players of it just to keep Obama out of the White House sure is considered throwing in the towel to me. People who vote for McCain have to realize what they're doing to the RP, and how this will just make things worse 4 years down the line.


And you propose to allow NObama to gain the WH, appoint who knows how many SCOTUS justices whom will reverse Heller & allow NObama to pass who knows how many more gun control/gun ban bills? And THAT is somehow better??????




So you think they would compromise enough on another AWB, yet not a "gun show loophole" measure? Odd way to look at it.


No, I don't think there will be a major (or even minor) national gun control bill to go thru both houses of Congress with McCain as POTUS. OTOH, with NObama egging them on & applying pressure, even Southern Dims may succomb to voting for something stronger than the expired AW Ban.

Flip it around & answer this, please: HOW will it be better for gun owners to allow NObama to gain POTUS????????

Please be SPECIFIC in your answer & omit your usual vague answers.............
Link Posted: 7/5/2008 12:31:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:
And you propose to allow NObama to gain the WH, appoint who knows how many SCOTUS justices whom will reverse Heller & allow NObama to pass who knows how many more gun control/gun ban bills? And THAT is somehow better??????


Of course it's not better for gun owners if Obama becomes president. That's why I'm not voting for him. You'll find no argument from me on that, so why are you trying to start one?



No, I don't think there will be a major (or even minor) national gun control bill to go thru both houses of Congress with McCain as POTUS.


With McCain's past, I'm not so certain. Heck, he's forgotten and flip-flopped quite a few times on other stances of his this whole campaign; I wouldn't be surprised if he woke up one day and thought he was doing a good deed by having lunch with the Bradys.


Flip it around & answer this, please: HOW will it be better for gun owners to allow NObama to gain POTUS????????

Please be SPECIFIC in your answer & omit your usual vague answers.............


It won't be better. How more specific can I get? I'm not voting for the guy, so I don't see what your problem with me is.
Link Posted: 7/5/2008 1:58:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:
Of course it's not better for gun owners if Obama becomes president. That's why I'm not voting for him. You'll find no argument from me on that, so why are you trying to start one?



Because if one does NOT vote FOR McCain, then it's the same thing as voting FOR NObama..................




With McCain's past, I'm not so certain. Heck, he's forgotten and flip-flopped quite a few times on other stances of his this whole campaign; I wouldn't be surprised if he woke up one day and thought he was doing a good deed by having lunch with the Bradys.


And he will learn, just as all the other POTUS' have, that there are much, much bigger issues to deal with once he is in office. I also remind you that all gun control bills run thru Congress before it hits the POTUS desk for signature.




It won't be better. How more specific can I get? I'm not voting for the guy, so I don't see what your problem with me is.


See above about NOT voting FOR McCain.
Link Posted: 7/5/2008 4:19:18 PM EDT
I voting for Senator McCain to save the country from Obama.

FREE
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 1:36:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/6/2008 1:38:45 PM EDT by MrGreg]

Originally Posted By BobCole:

Because if one does NOT vote FOR McCain, then it's the same thing as voting FOR NObama..................


No, it's not, as I'm still not voting for Obama, I'm voting against him, just not in the same way you are. You may not like that I'm not voting for your candidate, but I'm still voting against Obama. It's McCain's job to convince me that he's a better candidate than Bob Barr, and he's doing a terrible job of it, as the majority of people voting for him are only doing so because they refuse to vote 3rd party against Obama. How one could actually consider McCain a halfway decent candidate, and not just the "best of the worst," is beyond me.

Honestly, the only reason I would (dare I say it) vote McCain is because of the SCOTUS situation. I can't stand him in nearly every other stance he has.


And he will learn, just as all the other POTUS' have, that there are much, much bigger issues to deal with once he is in office. I also remind you that all gun control bills run thru Congress before it hits the POTUS desk for signature.


And I also remind you that not everyone holds this Congress to the lackluster effort in pushing gun control legislation that you think they have. Heller brought the situation to the forefront, it's no longer a background issue anymore.


See above about NOT voting FOR McCain.


Took the words right out of my mouth. ;)
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 2:11:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/6/2008 2:12:25 PM EDT by s32]
MrGreg are you a pro-Obama troll?

Why are you constantly bashing the progun candidate for president. There are only two choices now: McCain or Obama, Bob Barr will never win. Bashing McCain is the same as helping Obma. Why do you want to help Obama?
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 2:29:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By s32:
MrGreg are you a pro-Obama troll?

Why are you constantly bashing the progun candidate for president. There are only two choices now: McCain or Obama, Bob Barr will never win. Bashing McCain is the same as helping Obma. Why do you want to help Obama?


You call me a troll, and you dismiss presidential candidates as nonexistent? Please.
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 2:55:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

Originally Posted By s32:
MrGreg are you a pro-Obama troll?

Why are you constantly bashing the progun candidate for president. There are only two choices now: McCain or Obama, Bob Barr will never win. Bashing McCain is the same as helping Obma. Why do you want to help Obama?


You call me a troll, and you dismiss presidential candidates as nonexistent? Please.


I dismiss presidential candidates who will never win. You are either supporting Obama or supporting McCain. You are not supporting McCain so that makes you an Obama supporter.
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 3:35:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

No, it's not, as I'm still not voting for Obama,


Yes, it IS the same. You won't be cancelling out some idiot's vote for NObama, thus allowing said idiot to gain one vote for gun control. Somehow you seem to feel this is not a big deal?????
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 3:36:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

You call me a troll, and you dismiss presidential candidates as nonexistent? Please.




Yes, ANY 3rd Party candidate for POTUS is as non-existant as can be. Barr won't carry a single district, much less a single state. Throwing one's vote away in the general election via a 3rd Party is tantamount to voting FOR NObama.
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 3:44:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/6/2008 3:48:55 PM EDT by yekimak]

Originally Posted By m1garand__man:
I voted for ron paul in the primaries and would have been willing to settle for Huckabee in the general. but I will find my self writing in ron paul in because I can't consientiously vote for either of the two front runners and I definatly cannot consientiously not vote at all.


Just fucking vote for Obama and get it over with then.


We have 2 choices, like it or not. We can vote for a socialist fuckstick puppet with Soros's hand up his ass making him talk like a demented Muppet, or we can vote for McCain, who is far from perfect, but is at least not a frikken tool.


Link Posted: 7/7/2008 3:14:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By s32:
I dismiss presidential candidates who will never win. You are either supporting Obama or supporting McCain. You are not supporting McCain so that makes you an Obama supporter.


And therein lies your problem. Despite me voting against Obama, I still somehow support him in your view, just because that vote isn't for McCain.


Originally Posted By BobCole:
Yes, it IS the same. You won't be cancelling out some idiot's vote for NObama, thus allowing said idiot to gain one vote for gun control. Somehow you seem to feel this is not a big deal?????


A vote for McCain is hardly the opposite of voting for gun control, you're just voting for less of a punishment under him. And again, I'm still voting against him, just not on your side. It's a shame you can't understand that.
Link Posted: 7/7/2008 3:27:12 AM EDT
Well I'm not voting for him because I think he's the next Reagan
Link Posted: 7/7/2008 2:38:00 PM EDT
I'm voting McCain because I love my country more than I hate McCain!!!
Link Posted: 7/8/2008 6:48:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

A vote for McCain is hardly the opposite of voting for gun control,


Then by all means trot out your facts about how this isn't so. Be sure to mention how your 3rd party vote isn't being wasted by not cancelling out a NObama vote...............



And again, I'm still voting against him, just not on your side. It's a shame you can't understand that.



There's only TWO sides/options in a POTUS election. It's a shame YOU can't understand that. Wanna bet how many states your wana-be candidate will carry, sir?
Link Posted: 7/9/2008 12:41:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:

Then by all means trot out your facts about how this isn't so. Be sure to mention how your 3rd party vote isn't being wasted by not cancelling out a NObama vote...............


Sure.

-Voted for the amendment to S. 1805 on March 2nd, 2004 to include variants of high-powered rifle rounds in the "cop killer" ammunition ban.
-Voted for HIS OWN amendment to S. 1805 on March 2nd, 2004 to "close the gun show loophole"
-Voted for the amendment to S. 1805 on February 26th, 2004 to mandate that all handgun sales must include a lock.
-Voted for S. 397 on July 28th, 2005, mandating that gun dealers include a lock with all new handgun purchases

And that's all since 2004. I could go back further to show you how radical he was before then, if you'd like. Like I said, a vote for McCain is a vote for less Gun Control than Obama. McCain is hardly a friend of Gun Owners, he'll just do less harm overall than Obama. Barr is actually Pro-Gun.

I'm not concerned with canceling out an Obama vote, as I'm voting against him just the same as you are.



There's only TWO sides/options in a POTUS election. It's a shame YOU can't understand that. Wanna bet how many states your wana-be candidate will carry, sir?


Unfortunately for you, my ballot will say differently when it features more than two choices on it. I'm not placing any bets on who will have a stronger turnout, I'm just telling you who I'm voting for, and who has the best stance on 2nd Amendment Issues.
Link Posted: 7/9/2008 12:50:50 AM EDT
I'm going to vote for him because I think a Republican in the White House is a good idea. It's as simple as that.
Link Posted: 7/9/2008 1:00:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

Originally Posted By BobCole:

Then by all means trot out your facts about how this isn't so. Be sure to mention how your 3rd party vote isn't being wasted by not cancelling out a NObama vote...............


Sure.

-Voted for the amendment to S. 1805 on March 2nd, 2004 to include variants of high-powered rifle rounds in the "cop killer" ammunition ban.
-Voted for HIS OWN amendment to S. 1805 on March 2nd, 2004 to "close the gun show loophole"
-Voted for the amendment to S. 1805 on February 26th, 2004 to mandate that all handgun sales must include a lock.
-Voted for S. 397 on July 28th, 2005, mandating that gun dealers include a lock with all new handgun purchases

And that's all since 2004. I could go back further to show you how radical he was before then, if you'd like. Like I said, a vote for McCain is a vote for less Gun Control than Obama. McCain is hardly a friend of Gun Owners, he'll just do less harm overall than Obama. Barr is actually Pro-Gun.

I'm not concerned with canceling out an Obama vote, as I'm voting against him just the same as you are.



There's only TWO sides/options in a POTUS election. It's a shame YOU can't understand that. Wanna bet how many states your wana-be candidate will carry, sir?


Unfortunately for you, my ballot will say differently when it features more than two choices on it. I'm not placing any bets on who will have a stronger turnout, I'm just telling you who I'm voting for, and who has the best stance on 2nd Amendment Issues.


You can live in whatever fantasy world you want, your ballot can have over 100 people listed to run for president. However on January 20, 2009 it will be Barak Hussien Obama or John McCain taking the oath of office.
Link Posted: 7/9/2008 5:56:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrGreg:

I'm not placing any bets on who will have a stronger turnout, I'm just telling you who I'm voting for, and who has the best stance on 2nd Amendment Issues.




Dude, if you think Barr will win a SINGLE district then I have some beachfront property to sell you in Nebraska...................

Sadly, it's people like you who got Klinton in office & will follow this with a NObama win. Hope you hate your guns...................
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