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Posted: 3/27/2009 7:49:51 PM EDT
They are sold here and may require modification to your shotgun to fire properly.
I think they are pretty cool and would allow you to have more shots on hand. I searched and cannot find anything in previous threads.

Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:53:47 PM EDT
I'll stick with my Hornaday TAP 00Buck
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:55:07 PM EDT
Yes, they work in my Winchester 1300. Novelty more than anything.

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Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:55:46 PM EDT
Some shotguns (my 870, and most other 870's) will not feed them. I have heard that Mossbergs and Winchesters have better luck.

Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:56:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2009 7:57:06 PM EDT by Pangea]
I shot a piece of seasoned red oak with a mini slug. Placed the stick of stove wood on its side and popped it in one end with a model 500 Mossberg. Busted the wood open with a splitting maul and measures the penetration. 6". A good bit of penetration in my opinion. The only problem was that the open center loading gate on the Mossberg would leave a shell hanging down if you tried to cycle it too slow.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:56:57 PM EDT
Why are they a novelty? If they work reliably, why not use them. They still carry a good number of pellets.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:57:36 PM EDT
I had several boxes at one time. I shot some and gave the rest away. They won't cycle a semi auto and won't feed in a regular pump. So, they are pretty much single shot only. I bought them thinking it would be cool to have 20 rounds in my Mossberg 590 until I found out they wouldn't work. I think they are an interesting novelty... but that's about it.



Link Posted: 3/27/2009 8:00:07 PM EDT


If I held my Mossberg 500 perfectly horizontal, they fed fine. But I wouldn't trust them in a SHTF situation where I might be moving the shotgun aroudn a lot.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 8:01:17 PM EDT
I might just have to order a box or two and see how they do.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 8:07:10 PM EDT
fun but thats about it. Itd be cool to take one of those 3 gun shotguns with the 20 something shell mag tubes and load up with like 50 of those.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 8:12:35 PM EDT
I use them in my double barrel coach gun and they rock!

I have the Aquila shells.

Centurian Arms has a mini shell out that is a little bigger than the Aquila to fuction more reliably in a pump gun. Never tried this type.
My Rem 870 feeds the Aquila shells fairly well.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 8:16:21 PM EDT
I don't particularly see the point. If there's some problem I can't solve with 8 rounds of buckshot, I very much doubt that I could solve it with 16 slightly less effective rounds of buckshot.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 8:18:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kevthebassman:
I don't particularly see the point. If there's some problem I can't solve with 8 rounds of buckshot, I very much doubt that I could solve it with 16 slightly less effective rounds of buckshot.


thats the thing. they are a novelty to me and nothing else.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 8:32:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kevthebassman:
I don't particularly see the point. If there's some problem I can't solve with 8 rounds of buckshot, I very much doubt that I could solve it with 16 slightly less effective rounds of buckshot.


I just see it as a way of increasing your shot capacity, which is always good. Why else have 20 or 30 rnd mags for ARs.

Look at centurion 2" mini buckshot: it has 6 00 buck pellets and 1250 FPS. A comparable Federal tactical 2-3/4 shell holds 9 pellets and 1145FPS. If you used 8 2-3/4" shells before, you could now hold 11 2" ones.

Link Posted: 3/27/2009 9:15:05 PM EDT
Works fine in my FN TPS (winchester 1300 in drag)

I did however encounter two failure to fire due to a soft primer (or shit QC). The first fired the second time i ran it through but I ran the second shot through about ten times with no luck. Tried it with a mossy 500 with the same results.

To me it's definitely novelty B/C out of 40 rounds 1 completely didn't fire and I had to run another twice due to a soft primer srike (or shit QC).

2 out of 40... a 5% failure rate on a weapon that cycles it perfectly means to me that it's only for fun.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 9:29:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SGocka:
I'll stick with my Hornaday TAP 00Buck


This.

Link Posted: 3/27/2009 9:48:08 PM EDT
Old_Painless did a writeup on these on his website, theboxotruth.com
and seemed to feel pretty good about them. They are 'reduced recoil' ammo, meaning you can shoot them w/o breaking your shoulder.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 10:32:36 PM EDT
I fired a box of the mini-slugs out of my 1300. They all fed perfectly, but a couple of them hung up in the ejection port due to the expanded mouth of the case after being fired.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 10:37:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2009 10:39:01 PM EDT by Gunwritr]
the Aguila mini shells had functioning issues in a lot of guns

but these seem to work pretty well

try these
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 10:44:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2009 10:44:41 PM EDT by basp2005]

Originally Posted By kevthebassman:
I don't particularly see the point. If there's some problem I can't solve with 8 rounds of buckshot, I very much doubt that I could solve it with 16 slightly less effective rounds of buckshot.


Yeah, I think that Bill guy said something similar. Ruger was it?
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 10:49:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By jvic:
Yes, they work in my Winchester 1300. Novelty more than anything.

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This.

They are a novelty. Possibly a good training tool for introducing children, women and sissified men to shotgun shooting.

Winchester 1300 is the preferred weapon.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 10:53:49 PM EDT
They do not feed well in my Mossberg 500. Still alot of fun however.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 11:06:55 PM EDT
I have a Winchester 1300, so I might try them someday.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:25:52 AM EDT
work pretty good in my 1200 defender
we treid some at the range in an old single shot 28" barrel
noticably quieter than a standard round,make a loud thump when fired
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:21:20 AM EDT
I used them in single shot mode to get an ex-gf used to shooting shotgun and not be afraid of the recoil. Kind of like .22 ammo for shotguns
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:25:14 AM EDT
Was there a shotgun chambered for those shells?
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:22:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By StagArmslower:
Was there a shotgun chambered for those shells?


An interesting idea, design a pump shotgun from the ground up to use these. Like a shortened action. Could be cool, especially if other companies started coming out with short shells. If they made the action stronger, they could load the shells hotter, so you'd get more oomph out of the short shells. We're basically still using technology over 100 years old, when modern designs could make them significantly more powerful (or the same power in a smaller package).


Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:17:53 AM EDT
Useful for training - introducing the recoil shy, and for inducing malfunctions, but other than that they're a curiosity.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:31:43 AM EDT
I've treid the buckshot loads in a Winchester and a couple of doubles.

They work well in both but pattern rather poorly. Lots of deformed pellets that lead to flyers. Any sort of choke is a no-no. It REALLY messes up the patterns. Definately a very light powder charge. They feel very similar to trap loads.

I'd like the try the slugs but I have never seen them for sale.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:19:06 PM EDT
I like the idea of having a shotgun specifically chambered for a 1-3/4" or 2" shell.

Also, I do not see how they lack "umph" when they have a higher velocity than some 2-3/4" 00 buck. Isn't it going to have less recoil because you are moving less weight down the barrel?
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