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Posted: 10/23/2004 8:39:21 PM EST
I have two digicams, a nikon coolpix and a minolta something-or-nother. Both have a half second shutter lag, it's the most irritating %^@#$#@# thing int he world.

I have been hearing good things about the canon powershot IXUS500 line and went and checked one out today; shutter lag......



anyone make a decent point and shoot without a shutter lag?
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 8:46:51 PM EST
Compare specs here.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 8:51:33 PM EST
I have a lot of blurry pics because of this, and my time lag is more than you mentioned. It appears to be the main fault of digital cameras. It sucks for sure.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 8:54:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 8:56:19 PM EST
LOL, I use a D10 at work and a Nikon D70 other times. Yes, great camera but have you ever tried to put a D10 in your pocket? It's a challenge at best......
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 8:58:57 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/23/2004 9:19:02 PM EST
I have a Sony DSC-S85. It and all the other Sonys I have seen have the delay. It's more like a two-stage trigger. A partial depression of the button locks in the settings. If you hold it there, depressing it the rest of the way takes a picture immediately. Maybe that's the solution you are looking for.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 9:19:55 PM EST
I do the halfway shutter hold thing now, that's how I work around the lag problem now, the only problem with this is that you have to have foreknowledge that something picture worthy is about to happen.....


someone's GOT to make a shutterlag free point and shoot. Oh and to make the challenge harder, it has to be very small, ala the coolpix or canon IXUS series, or Casio EXILIM
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 9:25:52 PM EST
Well, do try that link above. dpreview is pretty good.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 9:27:50 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 9:37:36 PM EST
No shutter lag. Kyocera
We purchased one of these at work. It is awesome.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:05:58 PM EST
What do you mean by shutter lag? And did you read the instructions?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:18:47 PM EST
By shutter lag I mean the pause between when you push the shutter button and when the shutter actually trips, or in digiworld, the CCD records them image. In more familiar terms, lock time.

With a normal 35mm point-n-shoot, shutter lag is almost unnoticeable, your kid swings the bat, you push the button and you get a picture of the kid hitting a ball.

With most digital cameras I've used, at least the point and shoot variety, your kid swings the bat, you push the botton, kid hits ball, drops bat, heads for first and you get either a blurry picture of a bat laying on the ground, or the back of his head as he runs to first.

That's shutter lag- it's the most irritating frickin' thing in photography right now. I carry a small nikon in my pocket for kids games and business trips, whatever. I have so many empty frames or blown shots cause of the 1/2 to 3/4 second pause between button push and picture that you woudn't believe it.


I have been wading through the DPREVIEW.COM reviews but a lot of time they don't call out shutter or they say it's "manageable". This is my photography "holy grail". I'll never go back to film again, digital is too nice, but until I find a zero lag camera, I'm going to be blowing shots.


I'll look at the Kyocera camera, how is the color balance on those? My Nikon takes a lot of "bluish" photos, I have to warm them back up with photoshop after taking them. Usually it's OK but any weird lighting and it comes out with a bluish tint.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:24:19 PM EST
I think you're lumping 2 phenomena together:

(1) There's the inherent processing delay between pushing the shutter and the CCD acquisition; this varies significantly between digicams. This is unique to digicams, and is getting much better in newer cameras.

(2) There's the autofocus time. This is easily avoided by leaving the autofocus off, and is a feature shared by both digital and film cameras. As brass said, focus==infinity is your best solution if you don't want to give the camera time to focus. Or buy a high-end digi that uses normal removable lenses with manual focus. Get in focus ahead of time and snap away.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:31:50 PM EST
I like to use burst mode and start a little early. I USUALLY get the shot, but not always. Yesterday at the shoot I had my camera set on program mode, as the day progressed it got changed to portrait mode and in the full auto pics the brass is a blur at most...Gotta make sure I check settings after put down my camera to shoot(a gun).


ByteTheBullet (-:
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:35:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By brouhaha:

Originally Posted By brasspile:
Canon D10 10D

SLR, bit spendy, but what you are looking for.



D10 10D isn't a point and shoot.

I don't think the D10 10D is made anymore anyway.



The 10D is still manufactured, though they have released the 20D. Another option could be the 300D, about $500 cheaper than 20D, but only about $150 cheaper than the 10D now.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:35:56 PM EST
Other than a digital SLR, you'll have some lag. Most higher end P&S cams can be set to have a fixed focus custom mode that should work pretty fast. Turning off Auto Focus can help also. The time between press and shutter on my a80 is pretty quick this way (but still not something i'd use for even semi-serious shots).
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:49:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Alchemist:


The 10D is still manufactured, though they have released the 20D. Another option could be the 300D, about $500 cheaper than 20D, but only about $150 cheaper than the 10D now.



Eh? I can get a 10D for $950(ish) where? Where? WHERE? Please tell me, VISA will love you!

BH Prices

300D (AKA Rebel) $ 789.95 but there is a $100 rebate making it $ 689.95
10D $ 1,149.95
20D $ 1,499.95


Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:50:33 PM EST
Another factor is the speed of the media and the buffer of the camera. If you have slow writing media, then a 2 - 3 MB picture will take 1 - 1.5 seconds to write to it. The high end (usually the non point and shoot ones) have large buffers to temporally store the data, and allow you to take multiple shots w/o having to wait.


Have you tried the 'fast read/write' media out there, like the Ultra Series from SanDisk?

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:53:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:

Originally Posted By The_Alchemist:


The 10D is still manufactured, though they have released the 20D. Another option could be the 300D, about $500 cheaper than 20D, but only about $150 cheaper than the 10D now.



Eh? I can get a 10D for $950(ish) where? Where? WHERE? Please tell me, VISA will love you!

BH Prices

300D (AKA Rebel) $ 789.95 but there is a $100 rebate making it $ 689.95
10D $ 1,149.95
20D $ 1,499.95



Fry's (outpost.com sometimes) has them for $999. Try froogle.google.com
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:56:17 PM EST
turn off red eye setting.......
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:57:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:

Originally Posted By The_Alchemist:


The 10D is still manufactured, though they have released the 20D. Another option could be the 300D, about $500 cheaper than 20D, but only about $150 cheaper than the 10D now.



Eh? I can get a 10D for $950(ish) where? Where? WHERE? Please tell me, VISA will love you!

BH Prices

300D (AKA Rebel) $ 789.95 but there is a $100 rebate making it $ 689.95
10D $ 1,149.95
20D $ 1,499.95



Oh, sorry about that. I didn't bother checking the 300D price. I figured it was still $999
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:35:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 1:51:22 PM EST by Phil_in_Seattle]


Originally Posted By The_Alchemist:

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Originally Posted By The_Alchemist:


The 10D is still manufactured, though they have released the 20D. Another option could be the 300D, about $500 cheaper than 20D, but only about $150 cheaper than the 10D now.



Eh? I can get a 10D for $950(ish) where? Where? WHERE? Please tell me, VISA will love you!

BH Prices

300D (AKA Rebel) $ 789.95 but there is a $100 rebate making it $ 689.95
10D $ 1,149.95
20D $ 1,499.95





Oh, sorry about that. I didn't bother checking the 300D price. I figured it was still $999



Damnit, you went and got me excited and made my VISA card tremble in fear!

I don't really want the 300D but that $690 pricing is going to make me think about it.

I see there is a place advertising the 10D for $939 but from looking at some reviews they've gotten it's pretty clear that they are a bait and swtich company.

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 2:37:51 PM EST
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