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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:27:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 10:32:36 AM EST by Element94]
Has two knobs inside one for delay and one for sensitivity. A large black one on the outside that has a "click" on it when turned. No matter how I set it, no get dark.


ETA I used the Sun.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:30:11 AM EST
It takes a bright enough light to engage the darkness.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:30:24 AM EST
It's auto darkening... needs the light from starting an arc or other bright things to go dark.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:30:29 AM EST
Serious?

Go look at something bright. Should darken.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:31:09 AM EST
Put it on, go outside and look at the sun
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:31:11 AM EST
the big knob sets the shade, the sensitivity sets when the helmet goes dark and the delay adjust how quickly it goes dark.

You need to crank the sensitivity all the way up. It still may not trigger the lens though.

Make sure you are on shade 13 or 14
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:31:17 AM EST
I have to set mine in the sun for a few seconds to get it to work
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:31:22 AM EST
Make sure you hit the grind button. 
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:31:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By chop13chop:
Serious?

Go look at something bright. Should darken.
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I used the Sun!
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:31:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By chop13chop:
Serious?

Go look at something bright. Should darken.
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I brought my fixed shade today because i wasn't sure if just the sun would trigger my auto helmets. But my fixed is a shade #10. I think ill be fine
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:33:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By Element94:
Has two knobs inside one for delay and one for sensitivity. A large black one on the outside that has a "click" on it when turned. No matter how I set it, no get dark.
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Aim a TV remote at the solar cell part. It should turn black them.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:33:07 AM EST
I tried mine yesterday. To get it to darken for the sun you need the sensitivity turned to Max. The outside knob is likely the darkness setting.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:34:04 AM EST
Duct tape a bright LED or IR LED to the light sensor part.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:34:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AKCory762:


I brought my fixed shade today because i wasn't sure if just the sun would trigger my auto helmets. But my fixed is a shade #10. I think ill be fine
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Sun should trigger it. If it doesn't turn up sensitivity. Strobe lights on the cranes at work set mine off.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:36:04 AM EST
Batteries might be dead...
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:36:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Element94:
I used the Sun!
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By chop13chop:
Serious?

Go look at something bright. Should darken.
I used the Sun!
Typically better helmets won't be triggered by the sun. If I look at the sun with either my Jackson or Miller they may darken for an instant but then revert back to clear. They're designed that way so you can weld in odd positions and not have the sun trigger the shade and thus obstruct the view of the area to be welded.

@us-kiwi
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:36:09 AM EST
10 ain't enough
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:36:48 AM EST
In before MY EYES!
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:38:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By chop13chop:

Sun should trigger it. If it doesn't turn up sensitivity. Strobe lights on the cranes at work set mine off.
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The issue with my auto is that a sudden change (like a stobe) will trigger it, but not keep it on. I needed to set it to Max sensitivity for the sun to keep it on. I'm concerned that there 20% remaining sun will not be enough. I'll know soon...
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:38:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By Element94:
Has two knobs inside one for delay and one for sensitivity. A large black one on the outside that has a "click" on it when turned. No matter how I set it, no get dark.

ETA I used the Sun.
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In before OP is blind.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:38:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise:
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Nope.

14 is the recommendation. Shade is cumulative, though, so a really dark pair of sunglasses would add more protection.

I still wouldn't do it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:39:54 AM EST
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10 ain't enough
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So i've been mig and tig welding with a shade 10 and my auto helmets are usually set at 10 or 11 for years. Eyes are 20/20............


ETA ill toss on my sunglasses too i geuss lol
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:40:27 AM EST
When was the last time you used it? Most lenses uses the arc flash to charge the batteries in the lens. The batteries may be shot if you let them completely drain. Some of the cheaper lenses are throw aways, you can not replace the batteries.

I use the spark from a lighter to test an auto darkening lens if it does not have a dedicated test button.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:40:38 AM EST
The auto darkening masks will trigger when held up to any florescent light. Only triggers that way when held close. Quick way to test before you start an arc.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:45:36 AM EST
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So i've been mig and tig welding with a shade 10 and my auto helmets are usually set at 10 or 11 for years. Eyes are 20/20............


ETA ill toss on my sunglasses too i geuss lol
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That's my plan as well. The "experts" say at least a 12 is required for no-harm viewing.

As far as the OP's hood, I'd check batteries. Big flat watch type batteries if they are the type that can be changed. Sensitivity = High, Delay = Low. Delay is so a welder can see his arc start, and sensitivity is so the shop lights don't dark you out. Neither situation is a problem for eclipse viewing.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:50:50 AM EST
Turn it on first.  Mine flashes once when you turn it on so you know it is working.  
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:51:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GimpyPaw:
That's my plan as well. The "experts" say at least a 12 is required for no-harm viewing.

As far as the OP's hood, I'd check batteries. Big flat watch type batteries if they are the type that can be changed. Sensitivity = High, Delay = Low. Delay is so a welder can see his arc start, and sensitivity is so the shop lights don't dark you out. Neither situation is a problem for eclipse viewing.
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Originally Posted By AKCory762:

So i've been mig and tig welding with a shade 10 and my auto helmets are usually set at 10 or 11 for years. Eyes are 20/20............


ETA ill toss on my sunglasses too i geuss lol
That's my plan as well. The "experts" say at least a 12 is required for no-harm viewing.

As far as the OP's hood, I'd check batteries. Big flat watch type batteries if they are the type that can be changed. Sensitivity = High, Delay = Low. Delay is so a welder can see his arc start, and sensitivity is so the shop lights don't dark you out. Neither situation is a problem for eclipse viewing.
Delay typically sets how long the hood remains dark after the arc is extinguished.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:52:14 AM EST
Wait.... It has batteries??
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:53:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Wait.... It has batteries??
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How the fuck should we know?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:54:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Brians_45:
Batteries might be dead...
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This should of been FPNI

Mine has a small button on the lens that I press in
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:54:10 AM EST
Just did this at work
A surefiee didn't activate it, but the sun through a window did.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:55:45 AM EST
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How the fuck should we know?
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Wait.... It has batteries??
How the fuck should we know?
I just read a reply that the batteries may be dead. Its not my helmet and Im not a welder, Im at work and this belongs to a guy that is on vacation.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 10:57:52 AM EST
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I just read a reply that the batteries may be dead. Its not my helmet and Im not a welder, Im at work and this belongs to a guy that is on vacation.
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Wait.... It has batteries??
How the fuck should we know?
I just read a reply that the batteries may be dead. Its not my helmet and Im not a welder, Im at work and this belongs to a guy that is on vacation.
Some have user replaceable batteries, some don't.

What make/model?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:00:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Element94:
I just read a reply that the batteries may be dead. Its not my helmet and Im not a welder, Im at work and this belongs to a guy that is on vacation.
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Originally Posted By USPcompact:
Originally Posted By Element94:
Wait.... It has batteries??
How the fuck should we know?
I just read a reply that the batteries may be dead. Its not my helmet and Im not a welder, Im at work and this belongs to a guy that is on vacation.
My Miller digital elite has two batteries...
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:00:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By USPcompact:
Some have user replaceable batteries, some don't.

What make/model?
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By USPcompact:
Originally Posted By Element94:
Wait.... It has batteries??
How the fuck should we know?
I just read a reply that the batteries may be dead. Its not my helmet and Im not a welder, Im at work and this belongs to a guy that is on vacation.
Some have user replaceable batteries, some don't.

What make/model?
I think its off the Snap On truck. Has a naked woman on it, here it is ADF DX-500S
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:01:45 AM EST
Mine has a test button.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:06:30 AM EST
I would totally take a tool I wasn't familiar with belonging to someone that is away and cannot provide use instructions and then proceed to use said tool in an off-label manor.

Dibs on optics, you won't be needing them after today.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:06:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By theskuh:
Make sure you hit the grind button. 
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Make sure you hit the grind button. 
X-Mode!

Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:09:40 AM EST
He was blind the whole time.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:10:50 AM EST
just throwing this out as I have heard this from several sources that shade 10 is inadequate and shade 14 is minimum.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:13:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SecondAmend:
He was blind the whole time.
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Or will be after today.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:13:43 AM EST
Does it look like this? Chinese made lens, doesn't look like the batteries are replaceable.

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:15:24 AM EST
My harbor freight goes to 13, and darkens with a quickness.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:16:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Tactical_Spartan:
Does it look like this? Chinese made lens, doesn't look like the batteries are replaceable.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/374309/DX500S-286202.JPG
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Yep thats it
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:19:36 AM EST
Mine all use CR2450 batteries.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:22:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnnyCarcinogen:
My harbor freight goes to 13, and darkens with a quickness.
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This, just tested it. Sensitivity set to low caused it to flash on and off. Set to high and works fine... and knob to 13.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:23:42 AM EST
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Yep thats it
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There is no On/Off switch, get a cheap Bic lighter and see if the lens reacts to the spark. If no, the batteries are dead or the lens is shot. Been awhile since Snap-on used scantily clad women on any of their stuff, can't even get the calendars anymore unless the Snappy dealer orders their own.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:25:45 AM EST
Make sure it has good batteries...
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:26:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 11:28:18 AM EST by captainpooby]
Turn all the dials to the right and try it. If that doesn't work, the batteries are dead.

If this it it, it's solar power with battery backup. Lay out in the sun for a bit and see if the batteries charge up. The thingy on the top right side is the solar cell(s)

Link Posted: 8/21/2017 11:26:40 AM EST
My old one had a snap-down shield that went over the clear lens.
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