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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:54:19 PM EST
I just turned 17 and am a little worried. Strongly thinking about going to Canada.I know it passed but am wondering about the rules of it and stuff like that.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:57:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 1:57:53 PM EST by ultramagbrion]
Maybe they'll teach spelling and sentence construction?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:57:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:
Maybe they'll teach spelling and sentence construction?


OH SNAP!
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:03:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:04:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By merlin7782:

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:
Maybe they'll teach spelling and sentence construction?


OH SNAP!


Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:07:47 PM EST
Yes I'm a notorious bad speller but seriously
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:08:34 PM EST
So what ARE the details for the mandatory Obama Youth program that just got $5 billion in funding?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:10:53 PM EST
Swindle1984 yes I want to know what my generation will have to do for "the chosen on"
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:11:29 PM EST
I meant " the chosen one"
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:13:03 PM EST
I wouldn't head for the hills yet. There isn't any sort of thing in the works right now.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:18:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By dazeke352:
Yes I'm a notorious bad speller but seriously




Nope...not since April or so when the idea was being discussed here.
I just ran a couple of Google searches in different combinations of wording and came up with squat.

I haven't heard anything on FOX either.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:22:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By dazeke352:
Yes I'm a notorious bad speller but seriously


Get yourself a membership and it has a spellcheck. Just sayin..
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:27:09 PM EST
It isn't mandatory ... yet. The bill HR 1388 (The GIVE Act) is supposed to "encourage youth participation in voluntary community service" There is a version of the bill in the House which proposes to establish a Congressional Commission on Civil Service tasked with determining whether a mandatory service requirement for all young people in America could be developed and implemented. It is not certain that this provision will survive in conference committee.

The problem is that taxpayer funds under the GIVE Act could end up getting paid to volunteers in organizations that are doing political advocacy activity. Funds under the bill are designated to be distributed through AmeriCorps. AmeriCorps has a long distinguished history having their volunteers employed by community programs with an ideological purpose supported by Democratic Party politicians, including Planned Parenthood. (can you say Party Youth Program?)

According to Fox News, the legislation could cost up to $6 billion over five years and would create 175,000 "new service opportunities" under AmeriCorps.

The Obama/Biden campaign website says that "Obama and Biden will expand AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps with "a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year, and will establish a new tax credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year."

Ok, so you may or may not have to serve. It is yet to be seen, but let's recap;

Banks, Check... under government control (Tarp)
Industry, Check... under government control (see GM, et.al.)
Wages, Check...under government control (appointment of pay czar)
States, Check... under government control (can't refuse Stimulus $$)
Kids, Check.... under government control (Obama youth)

Wow, just keeps getting better.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:30:30 PM EST
How about not running? Stay and fight.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:31:33 PM EST
will they get to carry daggers that say "Blood and Honor" on them?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:32:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By UH_SALT_RIFLE:
How about not running? Stay and fight.


I like the way you think.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:36:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By dazeke352:
Yes I'm a notorious bad speller but seriously


Welcome to GD junior and no I haven't heard any details.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:37:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By raf:
I'll sign up for anything I'm eligible for faster than you can say the word "Mole".


Admit it...you wanna be referred to as a "Yout."
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:43:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 2:43:36 PM EST by PlaymoreMinds]
Originally Posted By MiamiARFan:
It isn't mandatory ... yet.


My opinion is that they will make it mandatory by pressure....
"Want a loan from a Govt secured bank to go to school? Volunteer!"

According to Fox News, the legislation could cost up to $6 billion overfive years and would create 175,000 "new service opportunities" underAmeriCorps.



Lookie here...

Former Inspector General Gerald Walpin filed two reports exposing gross misappropriation of federal AmeriCorps funds by a prominent Barack Obama supporter and was shortly thereafter fired by the White House, circumstances he told WND are likely linked and others have called an outright illegal action by the administration.

"I think you have to look at the facts and the circumstances and reach your conclusions," Walpin said in a WND interview. "I will tell you that [my firing] came only after we had issued those two reports to Congress, and I don't think that's a coincidence."



Rest of the story at the link.
Interesting....
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:45:28 PM EST
Service guarantees citizenship!
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:46:12 PM EST
As for spelling, they use the metric alphabet in Canadia, so you might not like it there either.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:48:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 2:49:07 PM EST by DarkCharisma]
If it is coming, why the hell would you run instead of fight it?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:51:37 PM EST
Wouldn't blame you if you fled the country. But it isn't mandatory yet.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:55:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
So what ARE the details for the mandatory Obama Youth program that just got $5 billion in funding?


No details yet. On an unrelated matter every member of ACORN has recently purchased a McMansion and a Maserati.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:01:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By DarkCharisma:
If it is coming, why the hell would you run instead of fight it?


Never fight a battle you cannot win. Retreat until you have the strength to fight and win. Otherwise, you waste your strength.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:50:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By MiamiARFan:
It isn't mandatory ... yet. The bill HR 1388 (The GIVE Act) is supposed to "encourage youth participation in voluntary community service" There is a version of the bill in the House which proposes to establish aCongressional Commission on Civil Service tasked with determiningwhether a mandatory service requirement for all young people in Americacould be developed and implemented. It is not certain that this provision will survive in conference committee.

The problem is that taxpayer funds under the GIVE Act could end upgetting paid to volunteers in organizations that are doing politicaladvocacy activity. Funds under the bill are designated to be distributed through AmeriCorps. AmeriCorps has a long distinguished history having their volunteers employed by community programswith an ideological purpose supported by Democratic Party politicians,including Planned Parenthood. (can you say Party Youth Program?)

According to Fox News, the legislation could cost up to $6 billion overfive years and would create 175,000 "new service opportunities" underAmeriCorps.

The Obama/Biden campaign website saysthat "Obama and Biden will expand AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps with"a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours ofcommunity service a year, and will establish a new tax credit that isworth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service ayear."

Ok, so you may or may not have to serve. It is yet to be seen, but let's recap;

Banks, Check... under government control (Tarp)
Industry, Check... under government control (see GM, et.al.)
Wages, Check...under government control (appointment of pay czar)
States, Check... under government control (can't refuse Stimulus $$)
Kids, Check.... under government control (Obama youth)

Wow, just keeps getting better.


Add in that Obama is trying to fire the guy in charge of making sure AmeriCorps isn't full of pork and graft and that it got a $5 billion budget last month. And take a look at the Young Allies program that Obama was deeply involved in. And ACORN.

If they make it mandatory for everyone 25 and under before I get too old to "qualify", they'd better give me a nice pair of jackboots and a snazzy knife to go with my uniform.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:57:39 AM EST
Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Wouldn't blame you if you fled the country. But it isn't mandatory yet.


Where would you go that isn't already worse than America?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:04:15 AM EST
Obama Youth. Is that really the name of it? ;) Kinda like...Hitler Youth?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:11:33 AM EST
Many countries (even quite a few that we do not loath) have mandatory service requirements. The question, for me at least, is not so much the requirement, but the indoctrination that goes with it.

My humble understanding (of one countries system), is that you decide your career path fairly early in the school system - essentially your education ends in an government sponsored internship. When you "graduate" you are employable.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:12:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By UH_SALT_RIFLE:
How about not running? Stay and fight.



This
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:17:01 AM EST
I was googling some things on this and found this. Ill just leave it here.



Youtube Link

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:31:48 AM EST
Whenever the Youth Corps comes into existence, join and destroy it from within like a good bureaucrat. Inaction and incompetence are often rewarded in governmet jobs (and corruption too these days). So, be a patriot and play your part and kill the beast from within.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:31:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By Wheelie:
I was googling some things on this and found this. Ill just leave it here.



Youtube Link



Ignorance is bliss...dude...YOU stole my bliss.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:36:01 AM EST
I'm guessing it's just quiet for now because there are bigger fish to fry.

Look - we got Americorps from the Clintons. I would guess the Obama Korps will be the same thing, only a gabillion times bigger.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:52:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:57:26 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:17:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By raf:


And, BTW, PMM, it's "Yute".


My bad
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:40:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:10:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By raf:
Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
Originally Posted By raf:


And, BTW, PMM, it's "Yute".


My bad


That's OK; small chance of my being mistaken for a yute.

Although there's always the shave the moustache and hair-dye approach.

Hmmmm. That might not be a bad dodge, come to think of it.



Nonono! You got that Sam Shepherd look goin.'
Don't change!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:13:12 PM EST
Two words:
Young Marines.
They wouldn't touch you if you were in that.
Plus, three years in = a prior service enlistment
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