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Posted: 2/21/2016 8:03:25 PM EDT
Since watching tv shows and movies on an ultra HD tv... That makes everything look like Blu-Ray... I just feel like I can't get into the movie or show as much as I used to... It doesn't feel like a "movie" to me. Is it just me?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:06:04 PM EDT
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I remember when people said the same thing when DVDs first came out.
At some point were going to get used to 4K and talk about how we cant get into holograms or whatever.

The only thing I dont like is the motion smoothing tech. theyre putting in TVs.  I bought a TV with that and I had to turn it off.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:07:22 PM EDT
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UHD is fucking awesome.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:11:41 PM EDT
[#3]
1st world problems.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:13:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:14:27 PM EDT
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I love my 70" Vizio UHD set, but I do notice that the scaling of HD TV shows (over cable) imparts a somewhat strange video effect that I don't have good words to describe but is quite noticeable...



Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:14:45 PM EDT
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Turn you hz or blur reduction down.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:15:50 PM EDT
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is there porn for it yet?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:16:48 PM EDT
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I remember when people said the same thing when DVDs first came out.
At some point were going to get used to 4K and talk about how we cant get into holograms or whatever.

The only thing I dont like is the motion smoothing tech. theyre putting in TVs.  I bought a TV with that and I had to turn it off.
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I believe that's called "soap opera effect" and many people hate it.  It can be disabled.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:17:18 PM EDT
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Check the settings.

Some displays have a "smooth motion" setting that makes everything look like a soap opera rather than 24 fps cinema.

My mother's Vizio was set to this, and it made everything look chintzy.  A simple change of the settings, and things looked much better afterwards.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:17:23 PM EDT
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When I first brought home my ultrahd tv I couldn't stand the way the picture looked. After some googling, I found out I was experiencing what they call the soap opera effect. Everything almost looked fake. After some more googling I found out about some settings that can be changed that will eliminate that effect. I love the tv now.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:18:17 PM EDT
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Looks like others beat me to it. Lol
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:20:54 PM EDT
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Soap Opera Effect makes me want to swing a cactus.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:21:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:25:32 PM EDT
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What are you watching in uhD? At what frame rate??
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:27:21 PM EDT
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It's just you, I got the Samsung k8500 uhd 4K player and some 4K blurays the other day, it's amazing.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:29:03 PM EDT
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Since watching tv shows and movies on an ultra HD tv... That makes everything look like Blu-Ray... I just feel like I can't get into the movie or show as much as I used to... It doesn't feel like a "movie" to me. Is it just me?
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You're smoking rocks.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:33:22 PM EDT
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There is a point where things on the screen look sharper than in real life. Yea it's weird, I don't really like it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:46:08 PM EDT
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Anything over 1080 is grossly overrated.

I don't want to notice stretch marks, ass acne (assne), or the anal leakage from her last scene.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:48:20 PM EDT
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How the fuck do people not know about the soap opera effect and disabling that shit by now?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:51:02 PM EDT
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UHD on a OLED tv is ridiculously nice. Picture is crazy when compared side by side to an LED tv. Can't afford it though

I have two 55in led 1080p smart tv's, Samsung & LG, I'm more than happy with what I have.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:20:57 PM EDT
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haven't watched anything in UHD yet
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:33:28 PM EDT
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Since watching tv shows and movies on an ultra HD tv... That makes everything look like Blu-Ray... I just feel like I can't get into the movie or show as much as I used to... It doesn't feel like a "movie" to me. Is it just me?
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Dollars to donuts it's the Frame Interpolation that is enabled on your set and NOT the very high resolution.  If it was the resolution that was bothering you then going to the movies wouldn't feel like going to the movies since almost all theaters are showing films in 2k or 4k these days.

Turn that Frame Interpolation crap off and your movies will look right.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:36:14 PM EDT
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Anything over 1080 is grossly overrated.

I don't want to notice stretch marks, ass acne (assne), or the anal leakage from her last scene.
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is there porn for it yet?


Anything over 1080 is grossly overrated.

I don't want to notice stretch marks, ass acne (assne), or the anal leakage from her last scene.

That's my fetish.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:41:29 PM EDT
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I believe that's called "soap opera effect" and many people hate it.  It can be disabled.
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I remember when people said the same thing when DVDs first came out.
At some point were going to get used to 4K and talk about how we cant get into holograms or whatever.

The only thing I dont like is the motion smoothing tech. theyre putting in TVs.  I bought a TV with that and I had to turn it off.


I believe that's called "soap opera effect" and many people hate it.  It can be disabled.



I know, thats what I meant... I had to turn the setting off, not the TV haha.

It was giving us motion sickness or something.  Even real life doesnt move like that.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:55:24 PM EDT
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Movies will be going to higher frame rates in the future, and once people get accustomed to it, they will wonder how people ever watched an unnatural, jerky 24 fps. But it will take time.


Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:56:41 PM EDT
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I want to get one to use as a monitor for a gaming PC.

Sitting at a desk at a computer reminds me of work
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:59:45 PM EDT
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UHD on a OLED tv is ridiculously nice. Picture is crazy when compared side by side to an LED tv. Can't afford it though

I have two 55in led 1080p smart tv's, Samsung & LG, I'm more than happy with what I have.
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We're all waiting on OLED prices to come down in the next 5 yrs or so eh?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:59:52 PM EDT
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Movies will be going to higher frame rates in the future, and once people get accustomed to it, they will wonder how people ever watched an unnatural, jerky 24 fps. But it will take time.


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Soap Opera Effect makes me want to swing a cactus.


Movies will be going to higher frame rates in the future, and once people get accustomed to it, they will wonder how people ever watched an unnatural, jerky 24 fps. But it will take time.




That's good.  The whole soap opera effect does look better, but when you aren't used to seeing it all the time, it's quite the mindfuck and very distracting.  Once everything is like that we will all get used to it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 11:07:35 PM EDT
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We have a 42" Vizio that's probably 5 years old now. I'll probably invest in a UHDTV when that technology is long outdated. After dropping $2400 on a DLP when they first came out, and it being a total turd, I'm done spending big money on TVs.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:17:49 PM EDT
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Movies will be going to higher frame rates in the future, and once people get accustomed to it, they will wonder how people ever watched an unnatural, jerky 24 fps. But it will take time.


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Soap Opera Effect makes me want to swing a cactus.


Movies will be going to higher frame rates in the future, and once people get accustomed to it, they will wonder how people ever watched an unnatural, jerky 24 fps. But it will take time.



The issue at hand has more to do with rendering than the recorded frame rate.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:21:02 PM EDT
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Nope.  Still have my 720P plasma from 2008.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:26:26 PM EDT
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I want to get one to use as a monitor for a gaming PC.

Sitting at a desk at a computer reminds me of work
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Absolutely the only reason I'd want one. I barely pay attention to the TV as it is, just on for background noise 90% of the time.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:28:22 PM EDT
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I believe that's called "soap opera effect" and many people hate it.  It can be disabled.
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I remember when people said the same thing when DVDs first came out.
At some point were going to get used to 4K and talk about how we cant get into holograms or whatever.

The only thing I dont like is the motion smoothing tech. theyre putting in TVs.  I bought a TV with that and I had to turn it off.


I believe that's called "soap opera effect" and many people hate it.  It can be disabled.

I can't stand it. Luckily I'm poor and have a TV from 05 or something l
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:29:21 PM EDT
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Narcos streams in 4K if you have the bandwidth-there were a few tit shots that were amazing.



 
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:34:27 PM EDT
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First thing I disabled when we bought our TV.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:36:25 PM EDT
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I can't stand watching anything but HD right now. Can't do it.  I doubt that 4K will be a complete replacement of HD content, as the difference isn't like standard vs HD, and that difference isn't enough to prevent me from enjoying both UHD and HD.  For me, there was no getting used to it, from day one it was, and still it, awesome.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:47:32 PM EDT
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That's good.  The whole soap opera effect does look better, but when you aren't used to seeing it all the time, it's quite the mindfuck and very distracting.  Once everything is like that we will all get used to it.
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Soap Opera Effect makes me want to swing a cactus.


Movies will be going to higher frame rates in the future, and once people get accustomed to it, they will wonder how people ever watched an unnatural, jerky 24 fps. But it will take time.




That's good.  The whole soap opera effect does look better, but when you aren't used to seeing it all the time, it's quite the mindfuck and very distracting.  Once everything is like that we will all get used to it.


I'm not sure that change is a sure thing.  Higher than 24fps frame rates have been around a long time (Live TV, Sports, Soap Operas...) so it's not like people aren't used to seeing it.  

Frame rate lends a particular aesthetic to whatever is being shown and 24fps in particular is very good at hiding flaws that would otherwise prevent a viewer from suspending their disbelief.  

That's why at 24fps you say "This is taking place on the bridge of a Star Destroyer!" whereas at 60 fps you say "This is obviously taking place on a sound stage".  I'm not sure if that's something you can get used to.


Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:51:10 PM EDT
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I used to hate the soap opera effect, but now I like it.  Makes things cleaner to me.

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:51:39 PM EDT
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The problem is frame creation in the rendering.  In creating additional interpolated frames, the TVs are often employing a higher degree of sharpening and edge definition.  Something like this is great for football, but is giving you something that is completely different from the source.  It's the moving version of a bad photoshop.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:56:01 PM EDT
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Since watching tv shows and movies on an ultra HD tv... That makes everything look like Blu-Ray... I just feel like I can't get into the movie or show as much as I used to... It doesn't feel like a "movie" to me. Is it just me?
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I agree.  Everything looks so sharp, it takes away that "movie" feel.  It almost reminds me of a home movie....if that makes any sense.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:56:36 PM EDT
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Since watching tv shows and movies on an ultra HD tv... That makes everything look like Blu-Ray... I just feel like I can't get into the movie or show as much as I used to... It doesn't feel like a "movie" to me. Is it just me?
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The reason you feel this way is not because it's UHD >1080, it's because they're multi-buffering the frames on shows originally shot <30fps and showing it to you in >120hz
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