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Posted: 12/9/2016 6:44:49 PM EDT
So is anyone else addicted to Rock crawling. I have been doing it for around 2 years. The cab truck was a 84 Toyota cut down and 4 linked in the rear. The new buggy is a Jimmy Smith Chassis on FJ60/80 hybrid axles with a 22re on propane. It has dual cases with a 4.7 rear case. It is a 170.1 crawl ratio.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 6:48:10 PM EDT
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You mean dumping thousands into a vehicle and destroying it on purpose ??......nope
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:00:59 PM EDT
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You mean dumping thousands into a vehicle and destroying it on purpose ??......nope Yeah that exactly what I mean but not neccesarrily destroying it. That's just like saying that gun owners enjoy spending lots of money on guns and the destroying them by creating a controlled explosion in the chamber and slowly destroying the gun by eroding the throat with each shot and shooting the rifling out of it. So I guess you kind of do the same thing when you are shooting your guns. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:05:28 PM EDT
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Can't you just walk up the rocks?
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:07:25 PM EDT
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If you can walk up some of it you sir are spider man. But yes most of it you can walk up. But driving up it is a different story.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:10:07 PM EDT
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Can you explain the benefits of propane? |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:11:32 PM EDT
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I've always wanted a mechanical mountain goat, just don't have the money for it.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:12:04 PM EDT
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AWESOME
my dream is to build a single seated buggy like a that. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:16:27 PM EDT
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It's cool if you're driving, slightly less fun if you're spotting. For every guy driving there are at least six people standing there drinking a monster and talking about how awesome their Jeep is going to be. And at almost every obstacle there is a line of 10+ vehicles waiting on their turn. But it still beats the shit out of sitting at home, laughing at frog memes all day.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:17:39 PM EDT
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Any idea what kind of power you are making with a 22re on propane?
The set of shocks you have on your buggy cost more than my first two cars! Awesome! |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:18:13 PM EDT
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Thread title: "oh, yeah, totally addicted to the rock."
Opened thread: "Oh, totally different addiction. Definitely not addicted to that." |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:20:55 PM EDT
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AWESOME my dream is to build a single seated buggy like a that. My dream is a threesome with Scarlet Johansson and Margot Robbie. Your dream sucks 
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:21:24 PM EDT
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Yeah but on a smaller scale, I do rock climbing,trails and mud.
same difference build it,drive it,tear it up and fix it...lol 
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:21:44 PM EDT
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I like doing it on a motorcycle...that count?
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:27:18 PM EDT
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I've never been rock crawling but I sure as hell want to build a transaxle buggy. They seem like they would be awesome fun with an IFS and ~34-35" tires.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:29:40 PM EDT
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My dream is a threesome with Scarlet Johansson and Margot Robbie. Your dream sucks LOL My dream is attainable and I only need a tube bender, notcher, and a pile of DOM. You will be beating your dick to your dream in your mothers basement until you die. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:37:13 PM EDT
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M35's don't do rocks real well
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:40:01 PM EDT
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Nice rig OP and yes on the wheeling addiction. Mine was Chevy K30s in the early 80 and into the 90s. The north Gawga area was rich with places to go, but your already aware of such.
I miss Tellico terribly but do enjoy that there are so many parks to play in via the private sector. Wanted a dedicated buggy for a long time, but at 51 years old and retirement looming, it seems I will just enjoy my 05 Rubicon on the trails. For anyone who has never been wheeling over technical areas of terrain. It's both fun and addicting, also a gateway drug to big rigs and extra low final drive ratios. See ya on the trail. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:41:30 PM EDT
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I went with a buddy in AZ a few times, it was extremely fun! We were drinking beers though, not Monsters
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:53:17 PM EDT
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Can you explain the benefits of propane? I saw the picture and thought he was just bringing a keg to the top. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:57:11 PM EDT
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Always have some fun on the rocks. I just can't wait to get my jeep back on the road soon with all new suspension and gas tank tuck. So some old pictures will have to do.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:57:40 PM EDT
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Not my thing but there's plenty of trailer 4x4s out here.
Mines more of a daily driver. 
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Posted: 12/9/2016 8:00:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/9/2016 8:02:52 PM EDT
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Can you explain the benefits of propane? I know it burns cleaner than gas, it also does not matter how steep of an incline you go up that could starve a fuel pump and carburetor and cause a stall which could be dangerous. Also it's more compact than a gasoline fuel tank and I'm assuming it can give a longer driving range than a small fuel tank of the same physical size. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 8:06:41 PM EDT
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So is anyone else addicted to Rock crawling. I have been doing it for around 2 years. The cab truck was a 84 Toyota cut down and 4 linked in the rear. The new buggy is a Jimmy Smith Chassis on FJ60/80 hybrid axles with a 22re on propane. It has dual cases with a 4.7 rear case. It is a 170.1 crawl ratio. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/jimmy-smith-chassis-103779.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/vnotch-103780.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/rbd-103781.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/TOYOTA-103782.JPG You anywhere near Chattanooga tn, op? sorta looks like aetna mountain |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 8:08:47 PM EDT
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Yes. But I've had to do the trails in my daily driver.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 10:52:21 PM EDT
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Can you explain the benefits of propane? When you are running carbureted engines you have to run propane because it is a gas and doesn't cut out when you are on a steep incline. It also runs alot cooler because it is actually closer to 110 octane gas. Also fuel injection on a 22re can be quite troublesome and when you are in a nasty spot the less chance of a running problem the better. Propane will keep a engine running upside down. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 10:55:27 PM EDT
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AWESOME my dream is to build a single seated buggy like a that. I never could get anyone to go with me when I had a spare seat so I asked the wife one final time if she was ever going to go and when she said no I had Jimmy start the chassis. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 10:58:13 PM EDT
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Any idea what kind of power you are making with a 22re on propane? The set of shocks you have on your buggy cost more than my first two cars! Awesome! I have never saw a dyno sheet on a 22r but I have saw lots of dyno sheets on some bad ass LS buggies and by the time you go through the drive train it is some pretty extreme losses. The motor in the white buggy is a built 22re so I would venture to say it is somewhere around 100 at the crank and around 60 at the rear tires. HP is a great thing but for technical rocks I will make a LS buggy look goofy when I walk right through. It's easier to kick a beach ball through a rock pile than it is to kick a bowling ball. And with my gearing it has a ton of torque. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 10:59:24 PM EDT
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Yeah but on a smaller scale, I do rock climbing,trails and mud. same difference build it,drive it,tear it up and fix it...lol http://i68.tinypic.com/2cgh9ac.jpg I never really cared for the rzr much. I don't have anything against them but the stuff we ride they won't hold up. To each his own though. As long as people are riding I am happy. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:00:40 PM EDT
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I've never been rock crawling but I sure as hell want to build a transaxle buggy. They seem like they would be awesome fun with an IFS and ~34-35" tires. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/281418/image-103829.JPG One of my real good buddies has a buggy similar to this he foes Werock events in. They are amazing. Im not much on IFS though. You can get more than enough articulation out of a well setup 3 link or 4 link. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDid you race KOH or is that pictures you took? |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:01:55 PM EDT
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I never really cared for the rzr much. I don't have anything against them but the stuff we ride they won't hold up. To each his own though. As long as people are riding I am happy. A friend talked up his RZR and told me to get one. I have no interest. Told him his RZR wouldn't make it some of the places my Jeep has gone. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:02:37 PM EDT
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You anywhere near Chattanooga tn, op? sorta looks like aetna mountain Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So is anyone else addicted to Rock crawling. I have been doing it for around 2 years. The cab truck was a 84 Toyota cut down and 4 linked in the rear. The new buggy is a Jimmy Smith Chassis on FJ60/80 hybrid axles with a 22re on propane. It has dual cases with a 4.7 rear case. It is a 170.1 crawl ratio. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/jimmy-smith-chassis-103779.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/vnotch-103780.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/rbd-103781.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/152207/TOYOTA-103782.JPG You anywhere near Chattanooga tn, op? sorta looks like aetna mountain Yes I am 1:15 south of Chattanooga. That is the 1 and only time I went to Aetna. The crowd up there is pretty rough. I go to AOP atleast once a month though. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:05:07 PM EDT
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A friend talked up his RZR and told me to get one. I have no interest. Told him his RZR wouldn't make it some of the places my Jeep has gone. It may make it through it but it will be yardsaled. I have saw them climb some nasty shit but they are destroyed when they come out the top. They have either broke a axle or the differential. It's hard enough to keep a full blown buggy together. A RZR gets destroyed every time it comes off the trailer. |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:47:58 PM EDT
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None of these are mine, but all three are sitting in the yard right now after the last mud bog. We don't have much in the way of rocks, but lots of mud some sand dunes and trails on occasion. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 12:27:25 AM EDT
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Looks fun.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 12:29:45 AM EDT
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Ya it's fun
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Posted: 12/10/2016 12:36:11 AM EDT
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Yeah, I have the sickness. Here is my built XJ on the Rubicon at the Soup Bowl. She and I walked right up. Sadly I have to sell her though, but I made a feature in Petersen's this month. Here is the sale listing.http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_140/1607776_Built-1999-Cherokee-XJ.html
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Posted: 12/10/2016 12:43:34 AM EDT
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Sorta. I got my son a radio control rock crawler earlier this year and it proved to be a heck of a lot more fun than I expected.
The cost of a real was is just nuts for something you will break. 
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Posted: 12/10/2016 12:54:29 AM EDT
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Can you explain the benefits of propane? Angle of dangle is irrelevant |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 1:05:21 AM EDT
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Did you race KOH or is that pictures you took? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Did you race KOH or is that pictures you took? Those are just pics off the net. I'll be there this year specatating. It's only about 2 hours away. I'm a bike guy, but the rock crawlers are cool. Crazy what they can drive through. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 10:16:51 AM EDT
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One day I want to take a trip out there and ride Moab, The rubicon, Fordyce, and the Hammer trails. I know for a fact that I will go to KOH one day.
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Posted: 12/11/2016 7:03:42 PM EDT
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One of my real good buddies has a buggy similar to this he foes Werock events in. They are amazing. Im not much on IFS though. You can get more than enough articulation out of a well setup 3 link or 4 link. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never been rock crawling but I sure as hell want to build a transaxle buggy. They seem like they would be awesome fun with an IFS and ~34-35" tires. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/281418/image-103829.JPG One of my real good buddies has a buggy similar to this he foes Werock events in. They are amazing. Im not much on IFS though. You can get more than enough articulation out of a well setup 3 link or 4 link. The only off roading I have ever done is a few hard to reach camping areas in SoCal, in my XJ, and 4 wheelers on Michigan trails. IFS seemed to work better for the faster stuff and it has stuck with me. If I ever hit the rocks hard, it will definitely be 3/4 link. |
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Posted: 12/11/2016 7:06:29 PM EDT
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Not me, looks like fun.
I have better things to spend my money on. |
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Posted: 12/11/2016 7:32:44 PM EDT
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 Attached Fileused to wheel it all the time but thats few years it has become a garage queen, Towed it to Moab for EJS and used to wheel with a club ever other weekend not not anymore. Only part of it that is still Rubicon is the Vin. and the sticker on the hood. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 10:37:41 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/370586/IMG-4176-105450.JPG used to wheel it all the time but thats few years it has become a garage queen, Towed it to Moab for EJS and used to wheel with a club ever other weekend not not anymore. Only part of it that is still Rubicon is the Vin. and the sticker on the hood. Dude that is a pretty sick jeep. |
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