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Posted: 9/2/2005 2:32:48 PM EDT
Something like a Toyota Prius or something?

My wife has mentioned is a couple times. Not that particular car but maybe trading in her 2002 Ford Escape for a Honda sedan.

I've heard mixed reviews about hybrid vehicles not being as fuel efficient as they are hyped up to be. That was about 6-12 months ago that I read that in some article.

Not sure if the gas-electric cars are a major step up or not.

I can only assume there is going to be a rush on orders for some of these cars now and trade-in value on less fuel efficient cars might be lowers than they were about 6-12 months ago. I'm sure car dealers accepting trade-ins are going to use all this as an opportunity to rape people on trade-in value.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 2:46:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 3:05:20 PM EDT
I'm thinking about it. 12 mpg on premium is getting old fast.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 3:14:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2005 3:17:14 PM EDT by pathfinder74]
Anyone own a nybrid vehicle like the Toyota Prius. I don't know how much different they are from other hybrids.

From the Prius specs:

2005 EPA-estimated 60 city/51 highway/55 combined mpg. Actual mileage may vary.


I'd say that'd be a drastic improvement from our sub-20mpg Excape.

There's also the Honda Insight, but it looks like teh ghey.
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Other hybrids
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:14:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:32:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:
Something like a Toyota Prius or something?

My wife has mentioned is a couple times. Not that particular car but maybe trading in her 2002 Ford Escape for a Honda sedan.

I've heard mixed reviews about hybrid vehicles not being as fuel efficient as they are hyped up to be. That was about 6-12 months ago that I read that in some article.

Not sure if the gas-electric cars are a major step up or not.

I can only assume there is going to be a rush on orders for some of these cars now and trade-in value on less fuel efficient cars might be lowers than they were about 6-12 months ago. I'm sure car dealers accepting trade-ins are going to use all this as an opportunity to rape people on trade-in value.


Pathfinder, bro, you might want to IM MrsGloftoe, she has a Prius.

IT would be better to buy a used one.

Or you could get a Chevy Aveo, Toyota ECHO, or a Pontiac Vibe.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:52:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By deej86:
Pathfinder, bro, you might want to IM MrsGloftoe, she has a Prius.
IT would be better to buy a used one.
Or you could get a Chevy Aveo, Toyota ECHO, or a Pontiac Vibe.



Any idea which one is rated the best on highway/city gas milage?
I'll drop her a line... thanks.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 6:00:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2005 6:01:56 PM EDT by afplayboy18]

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:

Originally Posted By deej86:
Pathfinder, bro, you might want to IM MrsGloftoe, she has a Prius.
IT would be better to buy a used one.
Or you could get a Chevy Aveo, Toyota ECHO, or a Pontiac Vibe.



Any idea which one is rated the best on highway/city gas milage?
I'll drop her a line... thanks.



Chevy Aveo = 27/35
Toyota Echo = 35/42
Pontiac Vibe = 25/32 or 30/36

ETA: im a little surprised by the echo...didnt know it got that good of mileage. although it is a tiny, tiny car. not something i would want to have for 5+ years, i know that.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 6:41:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:

Originally Posted By deej86:
Pathfinder, bro, you might want to IM MrsGloftoe, she has a Prius.
IT would be better to buy a used one.
Or you could get a Chevy Aveo, Toyota ECHO, or a Pontiac Vibe.



Any idea which one is rated the best on highway/city gas milage?
I'll drop her a line... thanks.


Prius, followed by the ECHO, then the Aveo, then the Vibe.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 6:50:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 7:30:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
Here are real-world stats on hybrid MPGs -

www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/

We're quite happy with the Prius! I just sent Pathfinder74 a book via IM.



Thanks again.... great chart for themilage comparison.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 7:38:24 PM EDT
No... I took enough math to figure out it'd take me a good 100,000 miles to pay for a new car. That and who wants to drive some econobox POS when they could drive a real car? Like, one that weighs 4700lbs empty, longer than the longest Suburban, runs 15's, has options out the ass, seats six, has a full frame, V8 and still manages gas mileage in the mid 20s?
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 7:58:39 PM EDT
I have a streetbike. 50mpg in town.

My Fullsize '84 4x4 Blazer has a 355 in it with a cam, carb, intake, hedders, and straightpipes. I'm lucky to get 11mpg on the highway, but I can get 9-10mpg in town if I'm good.

I'm not looking to get a more fuel efficient vehicle for a couple reasons.
1) I need 4x4.
2) I need enough power to pull a wagon to the elevator in the fall.
3) If I'd buy a 4x4 with fuel injection with enough power to get done what I need done, I would only be up 4-5mpg. Definitely not cost effective.
4) I like the older trucks. The new stuff doesn't trip my trigger and is harder to work on to an extent.
5) If you've ever driven a 2x4 truck on ice, you usually don't want to do it again. 4x4 is worth EVERY SINGLE FRIGGEN PENNY in the winter around here.

I don't care what gas costs, I have my vehicle, and while I don't like what it costs to fill it up, I'm sticking with the old beast.

Just my $.02..............or did that go up recently too



WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 9:14:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2005 11:54:28 AM EDT by YELLOWV]
Nope actually I almost traded in my 03 Nissan Sentra SER in for a brand new Titan a few weeks ago. Guess I'm glad I didn't now.

Like I said I ALMOST got the Titan. I would love to have it but at 14mpg and gas around $3.50 per gallon now I am glad I didn't.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 9:35:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
Nope actually I almost traded in my 03 Nissan Sentra SER in for a brand new Titan a few weeks ago. Guess I'm glad I didn't now.



haha...i did the exact same thing...but i had an 04 civic.

i love the Titan...has plenty of power and the towing is great also...how do you like yours?

Link Posted: 9/2/2005 9:38:45 PM EDT
... No
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 9:41:45 PM EDT
I'm not changing, I like my pickup
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 9:42:27 PM EDT
Thought about it. Maybe a E85 eating Taurus or something of that nature . E85 is were it is at
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 11:55:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By afplayboy18:

Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
Nope actually I almost traded in my 03 Nissan Sentra SER in for a brand new Titan a few weeks ago. Guess I'm glad I didn't now.



haha...i did the exact same thing...but i had an 04 civic.

i love the Titan...has plenty of power and the towing is great also...how do you like yours?




Like I said I ALMOST got the Titan. I would love to have it but at 14mpg and gas around $3.50 per gallon now I am glad I didn't.
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 11:59:20 AM EDT
I've been considering it for quite some time. As the Suburban Assault Vehicle™ gets gallons per mile seems.

I'd like to get my hands on an older VW diesel... or perhaps just scale back to a small block chevy in a 4x4 pick up chassis...
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 12:13:02 PM EDT
Nope, my primary vehicle is a 2005 F250 4x4 w/V10 engine, it gets about 11.5 mpg. I will be drivign my back up vehicle more (1991 Mazda protege, 26 mpg) but I am not going to buy anything new or replace the truck. Why? here is the math.
1000 miles @ 11.5 mpg @3.00 per gallon of gas is 260.00
1000 miles @ 30 mpg @3.00 per gallon of gas is 100.00
I would save 160 dollars every 1000 mile I drive (this doesn't include the extra insurance etc. just raw numbers on gas usage/cost)
Now if I were to buy a $10,000 car to save the gas it would take 62000 miles before I would break even.
I know this leaves out factors like insurance for another vehicle and resale value after the 62k miles but I just want to get the general idea across.
I am not suggesting others do the same as I am doing rather I am just explaining my decision.
YMMV....
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 5:53:18 PM EDT
I think am going to keep a look out for a mint 91 pontiac firefly.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:50:14 PM EDT
Well I did it. Just the opposite of this thread. I traded in the 4 banger on a new Titan. Just got it today. It is SWEEET!!!
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 9:54:31 PM EDT
i just bought a 68 lemans with a 350 to go with my saab :)
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 3:58:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2005 4:00:46 AM EDT by shootemup]
Anyone considering trading in their current vehicle for something more fuel efficient?

No.

ETA: Beware of EPA's estimates. It's been proven that they are way off. Up to 15% in some cases.

EPA Story
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 4:03:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GaryM:
Nope, my primary vehicle is a 2005 F250 4x4 w/V10 engine, it gets about 11.5 mpg. I will be drivign my back up vehicle more (1991 Mazda protege, 26 mpg) but I am not going to buy anything new or replace the truck. Why? here is the math.
1000 miles @ 11.5 mpg @3.00 per gallon of gas is 260.00
1000 miles @ 30 mpg @3.00 per gallon of gas is 100.00
I would save 160 dollars every 1000 mile I drive (this doesn't include the extra insurance etc. just raw numbers on gas usage/cost)
Now if I were to buy a $10,000 car to save the gas it would take 62000 miles before I would break even.
I know this leaves out factors like insurance for another vehicle and resale value after the 62k miles but I just want to get the general idea across.
I am not suggesting others do the same as I am doing rather I am just explaining my decision.
YMMV....



Well, if you bought a $3,000 car the numbers would make more sense. The additional money you spend on gas is just going down the toilet.

If you were to buy another car, you'd be buying a tangible asset. A depreciating one at that
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 7:26:35 AM EDT
We will probably buy a third car just for commutes soon. We spend about $1000 per month on gasoline, and I'm ready for a backup car. The 4WD trucks will stay with us.

The hybrids in the US market perform pretty much as advertised - reduced fuel consumption in stop and go driving, and par or so for highway driving. If you drive long commutes, a hybrid probably doesn't make sense unless it's combined with a fair bit of stop and go in the same trip.

There will be a boatload of very small cars and new hybrids in the country starting sometime next year, so if you can wait and are of a mind to drive itsy bitsy cars that might be a better option.

What I want to see is a hybrid set up for a 35 to 40 mile commute range on battery power with IC backup.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 7:43:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PigGuy:
No... I took enough math to figure out it'd take me a good 100,000 miles to pay for a new car. That and who wants to drive some econobox POS when they could drive a real car? Like, one that weighs 4700lbs empty, longer than the longest Suburban, runs 15's, has options out the ass, seats six, has a full frame, V8 and still manages gas mileage in the mid 20s?



I dont know if the math is correct but +1.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 8:52:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2005 8:58:44 AM EDT by deej86]
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Link Posted: 9/10/2005 7:25:52 PM EDT
nope. if I traded I'd want to do it for a new vehical since mine is like new and was bought new.
factor in the amount that'd cost me and I could buy gas for years instead
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 10:49:59 PM EDT
If it gets much worse, I will consider it. I doubt I'd get a hybrid, everyone I know, and this post seems to back it up, says they really are not any better than standard internal combustion. Gas has started to go down around here, I found it for $2.74/gal at a Mobil station, but it got real old the pump shutting me off at $50.00 and only having half a tank. It really sucks though is I did not go fishing once because gas is so high.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:00:46 AM EDT
Starting to think about it that's for sure. The wife drives a 2500 'buran w/ 7.4L for a lovely 12 hwy and crap around town. I have the economy car for work...96 Land Rover that get's 14.5 hwy and dick around town. At least my Harley gets 40+ on the hwy...I destroy alot of neck ties but who likes them anyways.

I never thought I'd say mini-van but what else is there that can haul a family of 6...plus a grandma on occasion?
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 9:30:07 AM EDT
I've been tossing the idea around for a while...trade in the truck for maybe a Dodge Magnum AWD w/ the v6...

Unfortunatly there isn't much out there that has 4/AWD, has a cargo area (something big enough to haul a bunch of ammo crates; most trunks aren't big enough for a big range weekend ), and gets 20+mpg.

Most Subarus fit the bill, as does the Dodge Magnum, or most Jeeps..but most Jeeps still don't get 20+mpg.

(And yah, I'd consider 22-25mpg "good", especially compared to the 12mpg I currently get..)

Link Posted: 9/13/2005 10:53:31 AM EDT
I had a 2001 dodge diesel and I sold it and bought a honda civic. Just get the normal civic and it will average 34-37 mpg(city and highway). my truck was getting 19.8-22. I didn't sell the truck because of the mileage but when I picked the honda I loved the gas mileage.
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