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Posted: 8/21/2004 1:12:19 PM EST
For several years I have worn a standard USGI woodland boonie hat for my everyday knock around, in the woods, keep the sun off my face hat. When I saw a picture of the new MARPAT boonie, I was intrigued, because of the wider brim more, so than the digital camo. I bought an issue MARPAT woodland boonie hat off of eBay.

I have only been wearing it a few days, but I can tell you, it is a big step up from the old GI boonie. The wider brim really does a much better job of blocking the sun and glare. The interior is double lined, with a softer (cotton?) fabric in the inside top, sides, and as a sweat band around the front 1/3 of the hat. The chin strap is adjustable with a neat push to unlock nylon device that really holds an adjustment, unlike the old little leather tab in the GI hat. I am really impressed and have already retired my old GI boonie. Of course I will be putting it to easy use, but it seems to be a well thought out military hat.

Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:25:38 PM EST
sounds good, but i would not wanna get hammered for wearing marpat
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:32:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:35:12 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:38:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2004 1:39:06 PM EST by kpel308]
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:42:33 PM EST
"I always wore my boonie covers "cowboy" style. Can you do that with the new cover, or is the brim too big?"

I checked it out, the brim will still work OK "cowboy" style. If anything, the cord adjustment device holds it better.

FWIW, I covered the USMC EGA emblem with my Air Force Munitions badge.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:46:59 PM EST
If you were a former Marine, can you still wear Marpat, or is their a law against it??

Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:04:11 PM EST
I hate to do this on my third post but,

Don't let me see you walking around covering anEagle, Globe, and Anchor with an Air Farce patch. I will let you know my true feelings about it....whenever & wherever! Go ahead and wear my cover, and I'll take it that you're supporting the Corps, but if you want to put a patch on something go buy yourself a blue and gray "hide in the sky" hat.hFrom a Jarhead stuck in Korea
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:14:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By Kota4bye:
I hate to do this on my third post but,

Don't let me see you walking around covering anEagle, Globe, and Anchor with an Air Farce patch. I will let you know my true feelings about it....whenever & wherever! Go ahead and wear my cover, and I'll take it that you're supporting the Corps, but if you want to put a patch on something go buy yourself a blue and gray "hide in the sky" hat.

Sent with love,
From a Jarhead stuck in Korea



Jarhead stuck in Korea can't count to 3.


(joke)
CHRIS
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:16:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By Kota4bye:
I hate to do this on my third post but,

Don't let me see you walking around covering anEagle, Globe, and Anchor with an Air Farce patch. I will let you know my true feelings about it....whenever & wherever! Go ahead and wear my cover, and I'll take it that you're supporting the Corps, but if you want to put a patch on something go buy yourself a blue and gray "hide in the sky" hat.

Sent with love,
From a Jarhead stuck in Korea



MARPAT Again! This madness has got to stop. As a former Marine, I take offense at the notion of any Marine telling an American citizen what they can and can't wear. The only people that must earn the right to wear the Marine Corps uniform are Marines. And really, you don't earn the clothes, you earn the title. Everyone else can wear whatever they please.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:10:59 PM EST
Damn, what happened to other my post! Thanks for catching me, Chris! Always setting myself up for the easy one.

Hey, I agree with everything he says. I, too, love the new boonie...he probably gets to wear his more than I do mine. My post was half in jest. You are right, he can wear whatever he wants...likewise, I can tell him what I think of what he's doing.h.gif
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:17:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2004 3:35:43 PM EST by Slufstuff]
Jeez, All I wanted to do was to give a short review of a good hat. If anything, it was a compliment to the USMC for fielding a worthwhile hat that is better IMO than the corresponding USGI hat.

I would take the animosity a little more seriously except that in my 8 years as an Air Force officer, I was constantly being asked by US Marine officers if I could get them USAF issue flight jackets for their off duty wear. First it was CWU-36/P's, then later A-2's (the A-2 leather jackets were like gold, but I helped out a couple of Marine officers with CWU-36/P's). These Marine officers did not seem concerned about wearing another services uniform item.

edited to be a little less prickly. All the Marines I ever met were stand up guys.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:19:36 PM EST
My first IBTL!!!!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:20:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:47:10 PM EST
That is absolute truth! We do think we can take whatever we want from the other services, and they can't do same back. Something about our pride in the uniform. Anyway, I still agree that it is a great cover, much in improvement over the old buckets. Put whatever you want on it. It looks better with an EGA, but if you want your patch on it gofer it. Wear away and enjoy!

I'm off to the BX in my tank top and flip flops!That's pure humor folks!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:56:30 PM EST
So where's the best place to buy these outstanding boonies ??
I want a few of each, woodland and desert MARPAT !!!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:02:21 PM EST
Cash Sales!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:02:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
So where's the best place to buy these outstanding boonies ??
I want a few of each, woodland and desert MARPAT !!!



This is the part where all the Marines say "join the Marines, youll get plenty of them!"
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:08:18 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:08:44 PM EST
Slufstuff, may I ask what you paid on ebay? Sizes and patterns are hit and miss on Oki, but I think they're $12. Of course I have to get back to Oki first.

And of course, they're "free" when you enlist!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:11:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By Kota4bye:
That is absolute truth! We do think we can take whatever we want from the other services, and they can't do same back. Something about our pride in the uniform. Anyway, I still agree that it is a great cover, much in improvement over the old buckets. Put whatever you want on it. It looks better with an EGA, but if you want your patch on it gofer it. Wear away and enjoy!

I'm off to the BX in my tank top and flip flops!

That's pure humor folks!



Thanks Kota. I only covered the EGA out of respect for the USMC, I would not want some one to think I was trying to be a wannabe. I never wear a badge or insignia I did not earn. But the USMC boonie hat is just too darn functional not to wear!It is really the best field hat I have ever owned.

USAF 1979-1987
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:14:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Kota4bye:
Slufstuff, may I ask what you paid on ebay? Sizes and patterns are hit and miss on Oki, but I think they're $12. Of course I have to get back to Oki first.

And of course, they're "free" when you enlist!



I paid $25. There are cheaper copies available, non issue, but you get what you pay for. The rip-off copies are noticeably cheaper in materials and leave off the inner lining.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:16:11 PM EST

Thanks Kota. I only covered the EGA out of respect for the USMC, I would not want some one to think I was trying to be a wannabe. I never wear a badge or insignia I did not earn. But the USMC boonie hat is just too darn functional not to wear!It is really the best field hat I have ever owned.

USAF 1979-1987



Actually, I think they make great recruiting tools!

Not that I would ever want that job!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:17:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Pete841:

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
So where's the best place to buy these outstanding boonies ??
I want a few of each, woodland and desert MARPAT !!!



This is the part where all the Marines say "join the Marines, youll get plenty of them!"



The clothes or accessories don't make the Marine, his honor, character and whats inside make him a Marine.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 6:45:05 PM EST
As a former Marine, I don't really care if civilians wear Marpat gear or not. I can't imagine anyone actually wearing any of it in public. If I see you at the mall wearing Marpat, I will laugh at you, because you look like a tool. If you want to wear it because of its function or utility, have at it, but please, limit this use to the woods/desert/anywhere except downtown.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 6:56:01 PM EST
im split between the normal Marine MARPAT reaction and sukebe's more laid back approach. would i accost you....no, absolutely not. looking like a poser is your business. but i may politely tell you how faggoty it is to put your airforce badge on a Marine uniform item. especially when it obscures my beloved Eagle Globe and Anchor.

for what its worth, the boonie cover is not authorized for wear with civilian attire. to my knowledge the only items authorized for wear with civilian attire is the EGA tie bar, the all-weather coat without rank insignia, and the tan web belt. also the MARPAT boonie cover is not an airforce uniform item. so since you arent a Marine and its not an AF item....youre not supposed to wear it. period. and doing so is pretty much equal to wearing your cammies to the mall, drinking and walking, or any other of the myriad of disgusting things i see the AF personnel do in their uniforms at my base. i hope people point and laugh at you. i know i would.

man when those gay blue tigerstripes come out im gonna wear them all time. with EGA's pinned on YAAAAY!!!! i mean we can just mix and match uniforms right.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:06:49 PM EST
personaly i look at this way its just a symbol hell the marines even give out tshirts with it on it.

your not being a poser or anyother crap. Its not like your going arounf telling people "back in nam" or some shit without being here.
besides out tax dollers pay for it anyway.

oh yeah IBTL
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:20:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By cyrax777:
hell the marines even give out tshirts with it on it.





true statement.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:22:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By DOA:
If you were a former Marine, can you still wear Marpat, or is their a law against it??




Once a Marine always a Marine!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:25:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By cyrax777:
personaly i look at this way its just a symbol hell the marines even give out tshirts with it on it.

your not being a poser or anyother crap. Its not like your going arounf telling people "back in nam" or some shit without being here.
besides out tax dollers pay for it anyway.

oh yeah IBTL

The Eagle Globe and Anchor is more than just a logo. I have no problem with it being worn by anyone, as long as it is done respectfully. Posers and such are a different matter, and one that isn't relivant(sp) in this situation.

The only part of your taxes that go toward the Marpat uniforms are the ones that Marines are paid with. We don't get uniform handouts. My first LES went into great detail showing the portions of my pay that were deducted for uniforms, hygeine items, and other required gear. I had to pay for my Marpat uniforms, boots, etc. with my own money.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:37:09 PM EST
I better not catch anybody building A4 clones, either. That's the Corps battle rifle and none of you are worthy. In fact, no matter what rifle, if it was never issued to you, you can't own it.
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 12:46:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 9:07:26 AM EST by Cixelsyd]
I've got a quick non-Marpat, no-boonie question.

Around here on KAF, up in Manas, and up in K2 all the Air Force guys and gals that I saw were wearing the "pointy" covers like the Navy/Marines wear. (I don't know what they are called, not trying to offend )They were normal 3 color desert.

When did the AF start issuing those? Do AF guys working in garrison(i.e back in the States) wear them too, or is it part of a field only uniform?


CHRIS
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 1:02:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
I wouldn't be caught dead wearing someone elses uniform.

Marines go though a lot of shit to EARN the eagle, globe, and anchor. I wouldn't want to be a pretender. There are plenty of people selling non-ega digital pattern stuff that it's easy enough to find (and cheap).



PS: IBLT



Amen, and ditto.....
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 1:39:00 AM EST
Im no post whore, but,
ibtl
this was begging for it.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:04:45 AM EST
Just FYI, there are two version of the USGI boonie hat - I have one of each. The original one I bought has a wider brim (I think almost 3") and is made of nylon/cotton like the winter-weight BDUs. The one I picked up later is the standard summer-weight ripstop cotton style with a 2" or 2.5" brim - the one you see most people wearing.

The brim on the first one (the winter-weight style) really looks too big, but works well to keep the sun and rain off your face.

Just my two cents on the other issue - I have no problem with people wearing Army logos (most Soldiers are less touchy about that than Marines, in fact most could probably care less), but I don't care at all for people that wear the rank - like people that pick up old field jackets at the local surplus store that still have stripes or bars on them. Of course, for Alyssa Milano, I can make an exception:



(I believe her cousin is actually a captain in the Army and loaned her the hat)

Dave
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:20:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 9:16:02 AM EST by JarheadChiro]
We at squad strength here??

Semper Fi



Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:32:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 8:36:10 AM EST by gamesniper]
I have all the respect in the world for former and present members of the military, and I ALWAYS have.

That being said, I'll wear whatever the fuck I want in surplus military garb (I DO remove any insignia-THAT I WILL NOT WEAR, I didn't earn it) because:

A) It's IMO the best quality hunting apparel I can get, quality and design-wise

and

B) MY FUCKING TAX DOLLARS PAID FOR IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. So I actually bought it TWICE.

I have the boonie hats in desert and woodlands MARPAT. Very good design. I've only worn them a couple of times so far. I WILL be buying both patterns in MARPAT but I'm in the process of losing some weight (finally!) and I'm waiting until I bottom out before I buy them.

I don't have the money to keep buying cheap shit hunting clothes so I buy what lasts. And the military surplus stuff LASTS.

And if the military is selling it on the open market it must be OK with THEM if I'm wearing it.

ETA: And US military is not the only thing I buy. I have Dutch, UK, Rhodesian and East German surplus clothing also. ALL of it is very well made.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:34:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 8:35:28 AM EST by hepcat85]

Originally Posted By Paul:
I wouldn't be caught dead wearing someone elses uniform.

Marines go though a lot of shit to EARN the eagle, globe, and anchor. I wouldn't want to be a pretender. There are plenty of people selling non-ega digital pattern stuff that it's easy enough to find (and cheap).



PS: IBLT



The navy uses MARPAT sans e g &a. SEABEES need covers too!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:36:16 AM EST
It is a hat, get over it. I see people wearing Navy "Ships" hats all the time.
Hell you cna get a USS Ronald Reagan ships hat off the Fox News web site. Whats the big F'in deal


Now if the guy is posing as a jarhead that is a different story
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:48:24 AM EST
I think I saw a pic of a former certain exArmy guy wearing his Marpat field jacket just today on another thread. Mmm who was is ? Ed someone ? Who do we know thats named Ed hmm ?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 9:00:56 AM EST
Nice booties on that German Shepard.

I have the cheap MARPAT boonie, bought it at a gun show. No EGA, no sweatband either. Very cool on the head though. Use it for shooting on the farm and farming when its really sunny and hot.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 9:08:24 AM EST
dont forget you will burn in the 10th (or was it 7th) level of hell for wearing anything that resemble marpat. Sinner.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 9:32:50 AM EST
I'm not really into the whole camo thing myself so I just go the khaki/tan hat route. I have only owned two boonie hats, as I just replaced my old one that was destroyed by my friend's kids after they got a hold of it, so what do I know though. I'm fairly sure mine is a USGI hat, since I picked it up at a Surplus store, but then again, I'm no expert.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 9:45:35 AM EST
But can I wear MARPAT while I play airsoft. How about when I use my tacpoint?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 9:57:43 AM EST
Okay, If I see anybody that doesn't hunt wearing a dale jr hat in mossy oak break up I'm kicking their ass!


P.S.I saw marpat clothes in the kids section a Target yesterday, as well as the blue tigerstripes.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:13:13 AM EST
My step brother of 28 years in the Marine Corp gave me one and I wear it with pride. If you don't like

it you can talk to him about it. I think he has earned the right to say it's ok for me to ware it.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:15:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:18:48 AM EST
I just figure you can tell a Marine from his swagger.
Imitators and punks are readily apparent.

Semper Fi


Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:26:47 AM EST
kpel308: Best way to handle it.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:28:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By kpel308:
Wear what you want. Just don't be a poser and claim you're something you're not.

That is all.

OUT.

What are you saying? That I go around being an imposter?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:29:07 AM EST
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