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Posted: 8/20/2017 9:17:33 PM EDT
I was in the local gun shop today and saw a .308 that was beautiful, I wish I had thought to take a picture.
Apparently a custom built from him starts at $3,000 and goes up. Any idea what they do that make it so steep? Cerekoted doesn't cost that much. Yes, I should have asked him but I had just eaten myself fat at a buffet and was too ready for a nap to think clearly. |
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It's not so much the parts(which can get expensive), it's the persons time to machine and build it.
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That's cheap for a good custom rifle.
A piece of wood for a stock can cost more. An action, $1000 to $1200. $380 or more for a barrel before machine work. Over $1000 for a McMillan or similar stock. Labor, which is probably not charged high enough. Who is the builder? If it's Nat Lambeth, buy the gun If you want a .308. |
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I always assumed you paid more for the machining of the gun and not the parts
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if they do all the bells and whistles to make it a superb gun I can see that, if they just put an action in a stock I can't.
don't have one myself but maybe one day. I seen some places on tv charge 10k to make a colt single action that can be fanned. though they build the entire gun from scratch. |
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That's cheap for a good custom rifle. A piece of wood for a stock can cost more. An action, $1000 to $1200. $380 or more for a barrel before machine work. Over $1000 for a McMillan or similar stock. Labor, which is probably not charged high enough. Who is the builder? If it's Nat Lambeth, but the gun If you want a .308. View Quote There are no more quality barrels for $250 and McMillan stocks for $400. My 1-8twist 22BR cost me $1,200 20yrs ago and it was well worth it. |
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I don't but I have seen some pretty nice ones over the years.
Some look like crap with a rattle can paint job others have had gorgeous engraving and beautiful wood stocks. |
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My budget build on a Savage action didn't turn out to be a budget build. I went full retard and spent close to $3k on a Savage. Who does that? Really?
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You can get into a custom hunting rifle for 4 or 5 grand with just moderately priced glass and no suppressor.
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I have a custom barreled action, but have not made a stock for it yet.
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Most of your AR15's are custom. Guy pieces together a lower, barrel, upper, some different parts here and there. It's a custom rifle!
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Years ago I traded for an old-school engraved Mauser bolt action, floral engraved receiver, engraving on the barrel shank, butterknife bolt handle, pacific peep sights, in .270. Original mannlicher style stock was wrecked and the guy who'd brought it back from (then) West Germany had stuck it in an ugly black/gray laminated stock with a huge weatherby-styled grip and cheek piece. One day I'm going to get a nicely figured walnut stock for it and make it pretty again.
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depends hugely on the action, stock, bottom metal, etc. You figure a Surgeon or Big Horn action will set you back $1300, and a decent stock with a mini chassis is $1000, then a barrel $500. That doesn't cover optics, rings, bipod, suppressor, sling, mags, or anything else you might need on the rifle. You get 3 guesses on that what this sucker ended up costing https://www.btfh.net/shoot/porn/surgeon-3.jpg View Quote 2. a billion $ 3. $358.90+tax |
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Quality costs.
Will a Savage rifle shoot alongside a 4,000.00 custom rig? Absolutely, I see it regularly. I was a proud Savage owner. I had a couple Savage rifles that were so accurate, that I said I would never have a reason to "waste 4,000.00 on a gun that will only be as accurate as my Savage." I said that a few times, in fact. I said that up until the point where I shot a friend's "custom" rifle. The Savages quickly went away, and now I continue to build my stable of custom rigs. Components add up. I mean, shit, you've got some quality scope mounts that cost as much as some lower-end AR's do. Actions are about 12-1300.00. Barrel and chambering jobs run about 7-800.00. Then you need a stock or chassis (easily drop 1k). Then you need a magazine, or two, or three, at 75.00 a pop. Then you need a trigger at about 200-400.00...etc, etc, etc... We won't we even touch optics in this discussion. |
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My first dive into custom was a blueprinted Remington 700 action, Obermeyer 1-10 tw 28" barrel and a sightron scope. It sits in a HS precision stock. With the smithing it costs me about 2500 in 2010.
I have the parts for a new build now. New unfired Remington reciever thats going to be blueprinted, bolt bushed, firing pin turned, oversized recoil lug pinned, manners T4A stock, Obermeyer 6.5 barrel finnished at 28", chambered in 6.5x47 with freebore for 140 gr bullets. Just the parts this time was about 2200. Gunsmith included will put it over 3- 3.5k easy without glass. So if you can find one with a custom action by a nationally known smith with less 1000 rounds for less than $3500 buy it. |
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About 25 years ago I hade a gunsmith in New York install a match grade stainless barrel in the 338-06 wildcat cartridge on a pre 64 Winchester action with a McMillan stock. It was the best shooting rifle I ever owned after I figured out the right load with the 250 grain Nosler Partition. I hunted caribou with it on the Alaska Peninsula.
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One of my best friends happens to be a one legged former Green Beret sniper that now builds custom rifles.
The action was from a Remington 700 thats been trued and rebarreled. Its sorta custom.. the cerakote is custom Attached File |
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This is the gunsmith, I've only used him to cerekote a shotgun but was quite pleased with the work...
http://abbottarms.com/Gunsmith-Prices |
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Shit OP I got more than that in an AR15 without optics or can, it's my every part tier 1 highest grade expensive component gun.
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This is the gunsmith, I've only used him to cerekote a shotgun but was quite pleased with the work... http://abbottarms.com/Gunsmith-Prices View Quote At $3k I'm going to heavily consider going with a well known name so when I get bored of it I can actually sell it, instead of having it languish on the EE or Snipershide like a red-headed stepchild, because while you won't get your money back out regardless, you get more with a known builder. |
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Prices add up quickly, and machining isn't always the most expensive component. My AICS 2.0 stock was close to $1k, Bartlein barrel blank was $300 (without any machining), and base and rings alone over $150 (some people spend north of $250 or more on base/ring sets). Add in optics, bipods (some are over $200 themselves), magazines, etc, and doesn't take much to get over $4k.
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I have a Robert Gradous switchbarrel 7-300WM and 300WM, built on a Surgeon action, that cost me around $7000 without glass, with glass $9000.
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This is the gunsmith, I've only used him to cerekote a shotgun but was quite pleased with the work... http://abbottarms.com/Gunsmith-Prices View Quote |
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I have trouble buying custom stuff when an off the shelf Savage with a factory team blueprinted action and hand set headspace can be bought for under $1.5k.
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I've got a budget custom. Picked everything up on the EE here. Remington 700 action with ptg bolt and hart barrel. Action trued, bolt and barrel fitted by Hart. Manners stock with mini chassis. Action was new, stock in excellent condition. Paid $1400 for both. Big difference in smoothness and fit compared to factory Remington rifle. Added another $2500 for scope, base and mounts but you have to buy optics anyway.
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I have trouble buying custom stuff when an off the shelf Savage with a factory team blueprinted action and hand set headspace can be bought for under $1.5k. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227964/20170819_113117-285942.JPG View Quote And A gunsmith that likes to work can true an action and fit a barrel and trigger into a tension frame stock for cheaper. you can get an action trued, barrel installed and a trigger job for 250.00 There is all kinds of good smiths that work for yeoman wages out there. |
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I have two custom Sako rifles. One is in 308 the other is a 7mmSTW. I have another VERY heavy barrel custom Tikka/Sako LSA55 in 308BR also. All fantastic rifles and none of which cost me more than roughly $2200 each.
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I have trouble buying custom stuff when an off the shelf Savage with a factory team blueprinted action and hand set headspace can be bought for under $1.5k. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227964/20170819_113117-285942.JPG View Quote |
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I would buy an R8 if I was gonna drop 3k plus on a rifle without glass or gear.
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What caliber and forgive me, but I'm not sure what mag that is either? View Quote Personally I have a couple of 10LE series and have been thrilled with the performance with GMM and have not worked up a load for them other than my 168 GMM copy. Attached File |
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That was a 6.5Creed Ashbury. It takes the AICS mags. Got to play with it at a dealer demo day and the only bad thing was that we were limited to 300 yards. Also got to shoot their .338 LM with the Drake Associates goodies onboard. Both can be found for under $1500. View Quote Thanks for the info. |
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I'm still working the kinks out of a Ruger PR in .243 but the new Savages are very very intriguing. Thanks for the info. View Quote I think one of the best deals out there right now is the Ruger Predator. Threaded light varmint barrel with detachable mag for under $450. Really nice if you want to try 6.5 Creed but don't want to invest in it. |
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I picked a custom rifle a few years ago that a guy dumped a ton of money into and it shoots amazing.
It came with a .25 MOA 3 shot guarantee and it will do it, even in 5 shots. No way will a Savage , Ruger, Remington, or any other factory rifle keep up with it. The action is smooth, stock fitment is perfect, and a trigger that will make you smile. I still have my factory rifles that I shoot often but the custom one is special and well worth the money spent. |
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I should never have made this thread.... I sank $2,000 into the AR I wanted, now I find myself thinking "you don't have a single bolt gun, it'd be wrong not to have one"...
Dammit, I was just going to spend money on new headlights for the car... well I just won't drive at night... |
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Well l have plans for a full on custom.
It started like this; My son-in-law has a Ruger M77 tang safety 7mm mag. He didnt fully tighten his action screws and cracked the stock. So l hunted high and low for a replacement. Found one, a laminate about the sane color as on my 10/22 above, on eBay. It arrived. It won't fit. It's for a featherweight barrel with a long action. His has the standard weight barrel. Finally find the correct stock and get him set up. So l have this brand new, beautiful stock in the back of my closet that does not fit anything. And l can't seem to find a buyer for it. I know one day I'll come across a reasonably priced tang safety, long action M77 and it'll get stripped down for the action and turned into a 6.5 Swede featherweight carbine in a brand new, beautiful laminated stock. Boy oh boy is it going to be expensive if it happens. |
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Only one currently, a SAKO L461 in .222 Remington.
Had and sold a Darrel Holland built M70 7mm STW back when it was fashionable, it shot well and I took several elk with it using a 160 Nosler Partition loaded to 3150 fps with RL 22. Neither of them had wood stocks...pretty wood and nice checkering are most assuredly not cheap and pretty wood doesn't stay that way long around here. |
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