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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:04:49 PM EDT
I'm in southern Illinois and been doing some minor prep. Some food back and a couple generators. I remember hearing the local FEMA say that if the New Madrid blows, it would be at least 3 weeks before our area in SI would be serviced. Since Federal says that....multiply that time by 2 or 3 times.....

Have you given it a thought? Done anything? If so, what? prep plans or small or large? ....or done nothing?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:05:38 PM EDT
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Yes I live near it and no I haven't done anything for prep.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:07:58 PM EDT
[#2]
What's in North Arkansas? As in North West corner. My mom lives there.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:08:30 PM EDT
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Nope


One of the largest earth quakes in America's history occurred in the Midwest..zero fucks given
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:09:45 PM EDT
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I am just outside the range of a any bad quake. I grew up closer to it in AR.

No prep for quakes.  Probably should.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:12:14 PM EDT
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I remember some quack predicting it was going to go off back when I was in 6th grade or so and having to do all sorts of drills at school.
Grandparents bought a big generator to run the milkbarn when the inevitable power loss happened and everyone was buying quake insurance.
Hell I can even remember the exact dates and time because it was 1234567890.
Dec. 3,4 or 5th, somewhere between 6-8pm in the year 90.

Still waiting.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:17:24 PM EDT
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When it goes, it will be bad.  

Not because of magnitude, but because the infrastructure was not built for it.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:18:09 PM EDT
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I'm in nwtn.

If it goes, there's nothing anyone can do for us.  Crossing the Mississippi River will be impossible.  There are a ton of creeks, streams, and smaller rivers around here...those bridges will go too.

Due to our soil composition, we can expect significant soil liquefaction which would destroy most anything standing.  Underground infrastructure would fail as well.

A county EMA director said a rebuild would take years.  Feds told them to execute contracts with nearby food distribution for their reefer trucks.  IIRC, they would store perishable goods for about 3 days, afterwards they were to be used for bodies.  Yep, the outlook is bleak.

We keep food and water as does the rest of my family nearby.  From the sound of things, we'd be able to hold out longer than some, but we're simply delaying the inevitable.

ETA:  Infrastructure across the Tn River would be toast as well.  We're kinda FUBAR' D.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:18:37 PM EDT
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I think that was around December 3rd....1990ish....I remember that...I was in college at that time and some schools let out.

The thing about earthquakes as always....unpredictable. However, earthquake insurance practically doubled a couple years ago. They only begin covering after you pay the first 10% of what your home is worth. Mine is around $200K....therefore before they begin paying, I have to shell out 20k.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:21:24 PM EDT
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Not much prep can be done when the whole area liquefied and sinks.

Anything kept in a basement would be lost and most houses in the area are made of wood and would tumble over and catch on fire quickly.

If kept in an outbuilding you would hope to have it temp controlled due to the heat of summers and high humidity.


Hell, it changed the course of a major river and changed state lines and the ground swallowed up huge areas of land and everything that was on it.


I really don't know how you can prep for an event like that unless you really know what's under your house by hundreds of meters and then build a house to withstand all the shaking and stuff.
And as the poster above me said, all the bridges all up and down the rivers and creeks will be busted, so unless they do air drops or stage in some large Comercial areas that are still standing and have power not much is getting in or out.

I could see some large sinkholes opening up on the tenn and Mississippi rivers and they would swallow up anything coming downstream and the neighboring land.

I think when it happened last the rivers ran backwards for a few hours or days.

It's not something that would just impact the area where it happened, it would cause problems with the whole Mississippi River system and the towns along it and the east and west coast due to how much is grown and mfg in the area.

It would fuck up the country real quick if it happened.


Some of the old newspaper articles about what happened to cities and farms is some crazy reading.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:25:54 PM EDT
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I'd like to know

Are you keeping all your preps in a quake proof shelter?
Cause if not ? ? ? ? ? ?
Good luck

I'm close, nothing more than for "normal" emergencies
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:29:46 PM EDT
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Not much prep can be done when the whole area liquefied and sinks.

Anything kept in a basement would be lost and most houses in the area are made of wood and would tumble over and catch on fire quickly.

If kept in an outbuilding you would hope to have it temp controlled due to the heat of summers and high humidity.


Hell, it changed the course of a major river and changed state lines and the ground swallowed up huge areas of land and everything that was on it.


I really don't know how you can prep for an event like that unless you really know what's under your house by hundreds of meters and then build a house to withstand all the shaking and stuff.


Some of the old newspaper articles about what happened to cities and farms is some crazy reading.
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Entire communities just vanished.  I read an account of a fisherman on the river.  His survival story was insane (luck or Devine intervention), but what stuck out to me was his description of a bluff town that simply vanished.  He was trying to get somewhere safe, but from his boat he could see not one single familiar landmark.  He'd been fishing the area his entire life.  After boating aimlessly, he realizes the community he was looking for was gone like it had never existed.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:30:35 PM EDT
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I'd like to know

Are you keeping all your preps in a quake proof shelter?
Cause if not ? ? ? ? ? ?
Good luck

I'm close, nothing more than for "normal" emergencies
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As me and another poster said, what are you going to do when all the preps get swallowed up when the ground turns to liquid?

It wouldn't be like a West coast earthquake and the damage will be way worse
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:33:29 PM EDT
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How earthquake-proof are the major bridges.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:33:38 PM EDT
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Entire communities just vanished.  I read an account of a fisherman on the river.  His survival story was insane (luck or Devine intervention), but what stuck out to me was his description of a bluff town that simply vanished.  He was trying to get somewhere safe, but from his boat he could see not one single familiar landmark.  He'd been fishing the area his entire life.  After boating aimlessly, he realizes the community he was looking for was gone like it had never existed.
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I think we must of read the same things on it, I really wish there was more books written about the event
There is a ton about every major one that happens in California and elsewhere but when I've tried to find some it's always the same few that get mentioned.

What I'd like to know is what the prison is going to do, it's on that little spit of land in the river curve that belongs to KY but is in a whole different state.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:36:28 PM EDT
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It's gonna happen about the same time as the Yellowstone super volcano anytime now give or take 40,000 years.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:38:12 PM EDT
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From what I remember talking to a MDOT guy when I was camping in the area years ago, not very.
Some are set on isolators but those are mostly just for absorbing the vibrations of cars and trucks using the bridges.

Now, things may of changed but I'm not sure if any of them have been rebuilt or retrofitted.

Plus even if the bridges are built to survive it, they won't do much good when the land on each side goes bye bye.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:39:38 PM EDT
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If the New Madrid fault lets go, we'll feel it but we should be outside the major damage zone.  Our airport has already been identified as a major staging area and the closest one to the damage zone.  MOARNG, FEMA and others probably, have done drills to prepare for it.  We have earthquake insurance and have since we moved here because of that fault line.  Hopefully it will not go but we all know it will eventually. When is anyone's guess.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:41:18 PM EDT
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I think we must of read the same things on it, I really wish there was more books written about the event
There is a ton about every major one that happens in California and elsewhere but when I've tried to find some it's always the same few that get mentioned.

What I'd like to know is what the prison is going to do, it's on that little spit of land in the river curve that belongs to KY but is in a whole different state.
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Entire communities just vanished.  I read an account of a fisherman on the river.  His survival story was insane (luck or Devine intervention), but what stuck out to me was his description of a bluff town that simply vanished.  He was trying to get somewhere safe, but from his boat he could see not one single familiar landmark.  He'd been fishing the area his entire life.  After boating aimlessly, he realizes the community he was looking for was gone like it had never existed.
I think we must of read the same things on it, I really wish there was more books written about the event
There is a ton about every major one that happens in California and elsewhere but when I've tried to find some it's always the same few that get mentioned.

What I'd like to know is what the prison is going to do, it's on that little spit of land in the river curve that belongs to KY but is in a whole different state.
A coworker of mine is a history buff.  He's got some excellent books on the quake.  I think we've read the same boater account because he's the only one who survived on the river.  Barges were tossed inland.  The river changed course and direction.

The aftershocks knocked people off their feet.  Stories of the ground rolling like waves.  Massive sand/dirt plumes blasting out of farmland.  It must've been something else to see.

As to the prison, I think it'll get swallowed up.  Much of Lake County is in the floodplain or close to it.  I just don't think we'll recognize anything if it were to happen.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:41:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:46:12 PM EDT
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It's really an issue for most of the country. Middle TN would be taking in a lot of "refugees" from Memphis if it happened, for instance.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:49:53 PM EDT
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A coworker of mine is a history buff.  He's got some excellent books on the quake.  I think we've read the same boater account because he's the only one who survived on the river.  Barges were tossed inland.  The river changed course and direction.

The aftershocks knocked people off their feet.  Stories of the ground rolling like waves.  Massive sand/dirt plumes blasting out of farmland.  It must've been something else to see.

As to the prison, I think it'll get swallowed up.  Much of Lake County is in the floodplain or close to it.  I just don't think we'll recognize anything if it were to happen.
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If you can ask him for the names of the books he has, I'd love to read some new ones about it

When I was younger my dad and I did a mini tour of areas that were messed up by it, we would stop at small towns and places like that and talk to people who's family has lived in the area for ages.
It was a report I did for school along with a bunch of pics and notebooks filled with some of the things they said.
I also made a display of what the soils in the area is like and what happens when water and vibration enters the mix.

Did it all over a long weekend back in the 90`s and sadly lost all that stuff during a few moves and a fire.

I don't think that even the government is ready for if it would happen today and it would go lawless real quick, I have a feeling that the military would be pressed into service and after a few days of looking for survivors it would be a long and slow recovery process with very little found.

Hell, if you asked most people about it they would say Spain is where it happened if at all

And I think that it would be felt in a larger area then what the official maps are saying, wouldn't surprise me one bit if the quad cities were damaged by it to the north.

And as above me posted, lots of mines and other tunnels in the areas along with large oil and gas lines crossing the area, add the line in and when they break lots of damage would happen even if they didn't catch on fire
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:54:23 PM EDT
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I remember when they built the pyramid in Memphis, been hearing its going to fall in the Mississippi river ever since.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:54:32 PM EDT
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I recall reading that the original earthquake caused the bells to toll in New England.  I would like to study more on this subject.  Another similar earthquake would change mankind for many, many years.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:57:18 PM EDT
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The Mississippi flowed backwards last time.  You guys better get ready!
http://mentalfloss.com/article/12848/day-mississippi-river-ran-backward%E2%80%94and-how-it-led-trail-tears
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:59:17 PM EDT
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OP living in this area you are FAR better to prep for a tornado than an earthquake.

Just keep a general amount of food, gas and other shit you use on a daily basis to last you at least a month and you should be good to go.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:05:04 PM EDT
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I think we must of read the same things on it, I really wish there was more books written about the event
There is a ton about every major one that happens in California and elsewhere but when I've tried to find some it's always the same few that get mentioned.

What I'd like to know is what the prison is going to do, it's on that little spit of land in the river curve that belongs to KY but is in a whole different state.
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Entire communities just vanished.  I read an account of a fisherman on the river.  His survival story was insane (luck or Devine intervention), but what stuck out to me was his description of a bluff town that simply vanished.  He was trying to get somewhere safe, but from his boat he could see not one single familiar landmark.  He'd been fishing the area his entire life.  After boating aimlessly, he realizes the community he was looking for was gone like it had never existed.
I think we must of read the same things on it, I really wish there was more books written about the event
There is a ton about every major one that happens in California and elsewhere but when I've tried to find some it's always the same few that get mentioned.

What I'd like to know is what the prison is going to do, it's on that little spit of land in the river curve that belongs to KY but is in a whole different state.
What? There's no prison in the Kentucky Bend. Nothing but a few houses and farmland.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:09:28 PM EDT
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What? There's no prison in the Kentucky Bend. Nothing but a few houses and farmland.
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I could of swore I saw a jail or prison there when I was playing on Google Earth one day
I zoomed out and it was smack dab in the middle of nowhere
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OK, it's just south of there, Northwest Correctional faculty

Near the base of the bend and a little east of it, West of reelfoot  and south of the bend in the river

I walked close LOL and it'd still get fucked up
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:09:41 PM EDT
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I would think that the older steel bridges might fare better than the newer concrete ones, but I am not an engineer.

I am close enough to worry but far enough away that unless it REALLY goes (like in the san andreas or 2012 movie) I should be good.  I have a sturdy house on a bit of a hill, and assuming our pond survives, I have plenty of filters, I could probably survive until FEMA showed up to take my guns, but then that wouldn't really be the quakes fault...
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:13:31 PM EDT
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The Balcones runs right through my property

It has been inactive for 15 million years, so I'll take my chances
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:17:40 PM EDT
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I could of swore I saw a jail or prison there when I was playing on Google Earth one day
I zoomed out and it was smack dab in the middle of nowhere
@triburst1


OK, it's just south of there, Northwest Correctional faculty

Near the base of the bend and a little east of it, West of reelfoot  and south of the bend in the river

I walked close LOL and it'd still get fucked up
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What? There's no prison in the Kentucky Bend. Nothing but a few houses and farmland.
I could of swore I saw a jail or prison there when I was playing on Google Earth one day
I zoomed out and it was smack dab in the middle of nowhere
@triburst1


OK, it's just south of there, Northwest Correctional faculty

Near the base of the bend and a little east of it, West of reelfoot  and south of the bend in the river

I walked close LOL and it'd still get fucked up
Yeah, that's in Tennessee.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:20:09 PM EDT
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I live a few miles from it's last creation the Big Lake WMA
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:23:26 PM EDT
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Yeah, that's in Tennessee.
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All you southern states are the same


I'm kidding, I find it amazing how the border was reformed and it reminds me of the Northwest angle on where you have to leave the state, go through a different one to get right back to the state you just left.

Would be interesting to see a gov map of what is for casted for that whole area if a quake hits again.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:25:28 PM EDT
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What's in North Arkansas? As in North West corner. My mom lives there.
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It will have very little impact on NW Arkansas.   North East Arkansas  is different story.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:26:46 PM EDT
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I remember hearing the local FEMA say that if the New Madrid blows, it would be at least 3 weeks before our area in SI would be serviced. Since Federal says that....multiply that time by 2 or 3 times.....

Have you given it a thought? Done anything? If so, what? prep plans or small or large? ....or done nothing?
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LOL

If New Madrid let's go like it did in the 1800's there won't be anything left to rescue and it'll take years for anyone to do more than a BDA style fly by.

It rang church bells in VA, drained lakes and made the Mississippi run backwards.  The soil in the Midwest is much better at transmitting quake vibrations and none of the buildings or infrastructure is quake resistant.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:39:13 PM EDT
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I lived for 25 years in the MS Delta less than 5 miles from the river. Every time there was a good, wet spring and the water was way up on the levees I thought about how much sportier it would be if that's the time the big one picked to hit.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:47:48 PM EDT
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Nope


One of the largest earth quakes in America's history occurred in the Midwest..zero fucks given
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And during this  the Mississippi flowed backwards (North)
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:50:26 PM EDT
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I lived for 25 years in the MS Delta less than 5 miles from the river. Every time there was a good, wet spring and the water was way up on the levees I thought about how much sportier it would be if that's the time the big one picked to hit.
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That's one reason I think it would be better if it hit in the winter time when the northern sections are low flow levels and are frozen.
It would cause a huge mess after the spring thaw but if it hit most areas where it would do damage are already fucked by the quake.

If it did hit during the spring or summer floods you could see a massive tsunami moving up stream.
There was one during Katrina for a few hours, raised river levels 13 feet or so.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:57:54 PM EDT
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Read this book,you will enjoy it.Its a great story of what could happen


Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:11:14 AM EDT
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I remember some quack predicting it was going to go off back when I was in 6th grade or so and having to do all sorts of drills at school.
Grandparents bought a big generator to run the milkbarn when the inevitable power loss happened and everyone was buying quake insurance.
Hell I can even remember the exact dates and time because it was 1234567890.
Dec. 3,4 or 5th, somewhere between 6-8pm in the year 90.

Still waiting.
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+1 I still remember all the big yellow garbage cans they brought in all the classrooms filled with disaster supplies.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:20:14 AM EDT
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Read this book,you will enjoy it.Its a great story of what could happen


http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6-YAAOSw241YW9xG/s-l300.jpg
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Just picked it up. Looks like a monster with 800+ pages
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:22:30 AM EDT
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Good one

It's going to be a mess when it hits. Inland MO, away from the rivers, will get tremors but not be completely fucked. Earthquake damage tends to follow riverbeds, due to the soil's conduction properties (I'm tired, so probably am not explaining this very well) resulting in magnification of motion. STL will be completely fucked six ways from Sunday, most likely.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:29:51 AM EDT
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I believe the I-40 bridge from Memphis into Arkansas has been upgraded to withstand a substantial earthquake. I don't think the I-55 bridge from Memphis to Arkansas has been upgraded, but I could be wrong, I haven't lived in that area in almost a decade.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:30:02 AM EDT
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Lived most of my life in SEMO and NEAR.  I've driven by the sand blows south of New Madrid many, many times.  It'll be a giant shit show of historic preportions if it goes again.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:32:33 AM EDT
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All of the bridges over the Mississippi River between St Louis and Memphis will be closed.
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St. Louis would basically be destroyed, and the death toll would be horrendous.
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If New Madrid let's go like it did in the 1800's there won't be anything left to rescue and it'll take years for anyone to do more than a BDA style fly by.

It rang church bells in VA, drained lakes and made the Mississippi run backwards.  The soil in the Midwest is much better at transmitting quake vibrations and none of the buildings or infrastructure is quake resistant.
Agreed.  

St. Louis would basically be destroyed, and the death toll would be horrendous.
Aside from very few structures, Memphis would be proper fucked as well.
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Entire communities just vanished.  I read an account of a fisherman on the river.  His survival story was insane (luck or Devine intervention), but what stuck out to me was his description of a bluff town that simply vanished.  He was trying to get somewhere safe, but from his boat he could see not one single familiar landmark.  He'd been fishing the area his entire life.  After boating aimlessly, he realizes the community he was looking for was gone like it had never existed.
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They said the Mississippi ran backwards in places four hours. Maybe it was even a day or two.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:52:31 AM EDT
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I thought this map was interesting.  Both are similar sized quakes but the area affected by the New Madrid quake is many times larger.

Link Posted: 4/17/2017 2:06:21 AM EDT
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I live on top of it. I am prepared accordingly because nothing here has been built to earthquake code so if it goes things are going to get bad fast. Just think of all the bridges that will collapse and how cut off certain places will be.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 2:27:43 AM EDT
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When it goes, it will be bad.  
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You get it.  The oil and natural gas lines, rails, highways.  How quickly we forget as a species, major cities like Nashville being brick and mortar.  When that puppy goes its going to be a huge hit for the entire country.

as someone said it made the Mississippi change course, water and sand were erupting from fields.  as a kid I saw a video from PBS /WTTW 11 Chicago about it, I've remembered it ever since. ( I want to say the flick was so old it was in black and white. (this was in the 80's it aired.)

This is another SHTF scenario that will create massive refugees/homelessness/disease, while crippling our country at the same time.

If I lived that way it would be as now,

1) not in a major metropolitan area,
2)plenty of food ammo and guns set back, with hygine itywems and some basic medical supplies,
3) /year? worth of food and dependable means to get potable water for the duration.
4)Wooden house, or at the very least new construction brick built to So.Ca. standards.

Thats another issue, I don't think things there are built with earthquakes in mind. (correct me if I'm mistaken)
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