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Posted: 12/15/2016 7:56:27 PM EST
Just bought one of those .32 ACP-to-.30-06 chamber adapters off the Bay of E, which prompted me (naturally enough ) to contemplate buying yet another gun. Not that I fucking need yet another gun, especially since I expect $$$ to be tight in the new year. Not that that's ever stopped me b4.

Upon perusing yon Broker of Guns, I espy that .32 ACP Kel-Tecs are going for ~2 Benjamins. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have an old-school, blued-steel-and-walnut 1903 Browning... but those are running ~$800-$1,000+. A bit out of my price range, for a toy.

So, are Kel-Tecs jammamatics? Suicide specials? Even more dangerous than a Block? Or a hidden gem? He'p me, Arfie-wan-kenobi!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:15:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 8:18:49 PM EST by SHOOTIST]
I have a P11, it eats everything I feed it and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger.
It could use a better trigger like a lot of small defensive handguns, but I am satisfied with it.


Edited to correct spelling.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:16:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 8:24:14 PM EST by Raider14]
They usually work fine.

If you're looking for a WWI .32, FN 1910s run around $300 IIRC


ETA: or you can go full retarded
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:17:10 PM EST
I've had one several years. It's very light and has never jammed. I like 'em.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:17:23 PM EST
love my p32
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:18:39 PM EST
My Sub2K is by far one of the best purchases I have made in a long time. I enjoy shooting it as my USPSA PCC gun more that I do some of my other guns that cost 3-4x as much as that gun. I also got the red lion precision handguard for it and it made it even better.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:21:52 PM EST
I've owned and carried a P32 since 2003 or so when it was the only small light gun on the market. No issues at all.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:22:04 PM EST
My p3at has been great.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:22:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By steelycr:
love my p32
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Don't "love" any inanimate object but mine goes bang, over and over again. Only the palm of my hand makes it stop, the little thing can chew on your hand. The only thing to make mine stop has been my improper loading of the rimmed ammo and bad ammo itself.

Like my P32 just fine.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:25:23 PM EST
Never owned a Keltec. 
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:25:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By John_McClane:
Just bought one of those .32 ACP-to-.30-06 chamber adapters off the Bay of E, which prompted me (naturally enough <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>) to contemplate buying yet another gun. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_headbang.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that I fucking need yet another gun, especially since I expect $$ to be tight in the new year. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that that's ever stopped me b4. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Upon perusing yon Broker of Guns, I espy that .32 ACP Kel-Tecs are going for ~2 Benjamins. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have an old-school, blued-steel-and-walnut 1903 Browning... but those are running ~$800-$1,000+. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> A bit out of my price range, for a toy. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>

So, are Kel-Tecs jammamatics? Suicide specials? Even more dangerous than a Block? <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/2016/crazy2.gif border=0 align=middle> Or a hidden gem? He'p me, Arfie-wan-kenobi! <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
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wat
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:28:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By John_McClane:
Just bought one of those .32 ACP-to-.30-06 chamber adapters off the Bay of E, which prompted me (naturally enough <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>) to contemplate buying yet another gun. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_headbang.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that I fucking need yet another gun, especially since I expect $ to be tight in the new year. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that that's ever stopped me b4. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Upon perusing yon Broker of Guns, I espy that .32 ACP Kel-Tecs are going for ~2 Benjamins. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have an old-school, blued-steel-and-walnut 1903 Browning... but those are running ~$800-$1,000+. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> A bit out of my price range, for a toy. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>

So, are Kel-Tecs jammamatics? Suicide specials? Even more dangerous than a Block? <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/2016/crazy2.gif border=0 align=middle> Or a hidden gem? He'p me, Arfie-wan-kenobi! <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
wat

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=iwr493bsao00zk8a00004&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F152298437746%3F_trksid%3Dp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:31:12 PM EST
The zim zam's seemed to work.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:31:41 PM EST
I love my sub2k its the bees knees
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:33:05 PM EST
Ah, I was thinking the reverse of that and trying to make sense of it. Neat.

I had a p3at several years back. Didn't shoot it much but it always worked. Sold it when I bought a G26.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:33:30 PM EST
I kind of want the little P32.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:34:20 PM EST
P11 here with no problems at all.

I did not like the trigger much so i added a wider trigger shoe and that made it a little better for $7 part it was well worth it.
Well i did put $35 in parts in the gun and it changed how i like it a lot.

steel guide rod $7
Trigger shoe $7
Finger extension "or what ever its called" for the mag $7
Belt clip to use instead of holster $14

One of the things i like about them is the price for parts and the initial $ of the gun.

Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:38:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 8:48:47 PM EST by ma96782]
I have one. Good things about it....

It works.
It's light weight.
Concealable.

Bad things about it....

Caliber .32 ACP.
Ammo cost.

Perhaps, you might want to save a little more and just get a micro 9mm?
My Diamondback 9mm and my .32 ACP Kel Tec. And, of course you know that the .380 ACP Kel Tec is the same size as the .32 ACP Kel Tec. Anyway, check this out....





Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:38:52 PM EST
No... just no
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:40:44 PM EST
I've had 4 of them, a P32, P3AT, P11 and P40.

One of the 4, the P32 actually worked correctly right out of the box, it's my wife's BUG now.  The others never did, despite a "fluff and buff" and being returned to the factory, sometimes more than once.  The P3AT was so unreliable it was laughable.  I sold it to a guy who swore I was limp wristing it, which he later apologised to me for after himself having to return the gun to the factory.  The P11 would pop the trigger return spring loose if you squeezed the gun too tight.  The P40 ejected shells directly into my face (which I forgave it for since I'm a dirty lefty), but it also had regular issues with FTFs and with pins walking out of the frame.

They're right next to Taurus on my list of guns not to buy.  I've heard if you get a good one they're great, but I'm not into rolling the dice anymore, it's expensive and it's a PITA.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:42:10 PM EST
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Because............ c'mon, work with me here..............
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:45:12 PM EST
Don't own any of their handguns but I am happy with my Sub2k. If i can find an RDB for 1000 or less I'm fo'ing on the spot.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:46:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 8:46:40 PM EST by Kennyo1]
I have a P-11 that is 100% reliable. It's old but I recently refinished the slide with titanium grey gun kote. I went through it and did a rebuild also. Replaced the sights, firing pin, and extractor. Added a north wood trigger also.
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Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:46:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 8:48:21 PM EST by Darrellbear]
I have one Kel-Tec, a PLR 16, got it when they first came out. No stupid buffer tube to get in the way, runs like a clock, and is quite accurate. It doesn't seem to like PMags, though, its only downside. It handles GI mags just fine.
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That's a FAKOG on the gun, works okay for a budget optic. The gun is LOUD and makes huge fireballs.

Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:46:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 8:47:14 PM EST by crownvic96]
My PF9 was a piece of fucking shit. I traded it in for a Sig P938 and never looked back. Never again.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:48:24 PM EST
I want a RDB.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:48:29 PM EST
P11 and P3AT have been flawless. Ugly and not very fun to shoot, but they both have run 100%. I sold the P11 to a guy at work who shoots the hell out of it and he hasn't had a single problem either.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:57:02 PM EST
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Same.
Not one issue from it.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 9:00:12 PM EST
I've owned a few KT...never will buy another one. They are POS products...great innovation, but crap quality.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 9:02:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 9:10:02 PM EST by myltwon]
I've only fired two keltecs in my life so far, both ftf'd at some point during use.

I have no interest in buying anything they make but they have some great ideas. To me keltec is like a good firearms think-tank. Their execution however leaves something to be desired IMO especially anything 1st gen.

They make a lot of stuff that people actually want, add in better visual appeal and a company with a more solid track record and the system would be pretty hard to beat in the gun world by most companies. They actually made a very smart decision by trying something different than trying to out-glock glock or make more ar15s, unlike most manufacturers out there.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 9:03:10 PM EST
My stainless P32 has run flawlessly for eight years.  Mine did need a break in period where I figured out what ammo loads functioned best.  The optional exterior metal clip to slide it on your waistband makes it easy to carry without a holster, like when you are bumming around the backyard in gym shorts or at the beach.  Just keep in mind you will not have an enclosed trigger if you do this so it may be safer to carry with an empty chamber.  Kel-Tec also sells special magazine inserts that allow you to run hollow points and avoid rim-lock...  but if you install this you won't be able to load FMJ ammo in your mags.  I think the consensus is that with 32 ACP you are better off running FMJ rather than hollow points because even with FMJ you barely get the minimum recommended penetration for defensive ammo.

A P32 for $200 is a steal and I would jump on it.  Pick up a couple of extra 10 round mags and you will have a nice carry setup.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 9:08:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
I've had 4 of them, a P32, P3AT, P11 and P40.

One of the 4, the P32 actually worked correctly right out of the box, it's my wife's BUG now.  The others never did, despite a "fluff and buff" and being returned to the factory, sometimes more than once.  The P3AT was so unreliable it was laughable.  I sold it to a guy who swore I was limp wristing it, which he later apologised to me for after himself having to return the gun to the factory.  The P11 would pop the trigger return spring loose if you squeezed the gun too tight.  The P40 ejected shells directly into my face (which I forgave it for since I'm a dirty lefty), but it also had regular issues with FTFs and with pins walking out of the frame.

They're right next to Taurus on my list of guns not to buy.  I've heard if you get a good one they're great, but I'm not into rolling the dice anymore, it's expensive and it's a PITA.
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My P3AT was exactly as you described. After a quick fluff and buff it would shoot Winchester white box but nothing else. A quick radius at the top of the chamber solved all the problems and eats anything I feed it now.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 9:12:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jdove09:
My Sub2K is by far one of the best purchases I have made in a long time. I enjoy shooting it as my USPSA PCC gun more that I do some of my other guns that cost 3-4x as much as that gun. I also got the red lion precision handguard for it and it made it even better.
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I'd buy the metal receiver Sub9 if I could find one decent price/shape
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 11:54:53 PM EST
They have rediculously low resale. Got $300 in a nice pimped out P11, would be lucky to see $125 out of it. Thats a lot of gun for the money even if you only have it for a throw piece. Personally I wouldnt mess with anything less than 9mm unless its a .38 j frame, which is close enough.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 11:57:10 PM EST
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My p3at has been great.
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Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:01:06 AM EST
I ordered the Gen2 forend and Gen2 front sight for my gen1 Sub2000. Arriving tomorrow. Love that gun but the front sight is a POS and has basically kept it a safe queen for 10 years. The upgrades should make it more usable with a very modest investment compared to aftermarket stuff that cost as much as I paid for the gun originally . Carry a P3at 24/7 for many years and a P32 before that. Don't trust either but better than nothing when it's uncomfortable to carry one of my Glocks.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:02:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SHOOTIST:
I have a P11, it eats everything I feed it and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger.
It could use a better trigger like a lot of small defensive handguns, but I am satisfied with it.


Edited to correct spelling.
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My brother in law bought a P11. I HATED it, it would pinch my trigger finger with its horrible trigger. So after such a bad experience with the P11 i obviously decided to get a PF9. It has a MUCH better trigger.
I LOVE my PF9, never had a problem with it ever- i carry it everyday.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:22:02 AM EST
I have two, a PF9 and P3at, that have been 100% good to go. I added Northwood triggers to both and that improved the feel and removed any pinching. Great little guns if you don't want a striker-fired action, and don't mind something with a slightly lower caliber fit and finish (most of which can be cleaned up by hand).
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:23:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
I've had 4 of them, a P32, P3AT, P11 and P40.

One of the 4, the P32 actually worked correctly right out of the box, it's my wife's BUG now.  The others never did, despite a "fluff and buff" and being returned to the factory, sometimes more than once.  The P3AT was so unreliable it was laughable.  I sold it to a guy who swore I was limp wristing it, which he later apologised to me for after himself having to return the gun to the factory.  The P11 would pop the trigger return spring loose if you squeezed the gun too tight.  The P40 ejected shells directly into my face (which I forgave it for since I'm a dirty lefty), but it also had regular issues with FTFs and with pins walking out of the frame.

They're right next to Taurus on my list of guns not to buy.  I've heard if you get a good one they're great, but I'm not into rolling the dice anymore, it's expensive and it's a PITA.
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I've had a P3AT and P11. I've shot a buddies P32(a lot). I found the P11 and the P32 to be reliable. The P3AT was a POS. It never ran right. I've heard the the P32 is the most reliable of the Keltecs. YMMV
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:24:43 AM EST
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Good luck with that. They were crazy rare before they became a cult classic. Now they're in stupid land.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:27:28 AM EST
The PF9 with the belt clip on the slide and the +1 mag extension is my daily carry.

George Zimmerman approves.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:27:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 1:19:08 AM EST by hardcorps1775]
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Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By John_McClane:
Just bought one of those .32 ACP-to-.30-06 chamber adapters off the Bay of E, which prompted me (naturally enough <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>) to contemplate buying yet another gun. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_headbang.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that I fucking need yet another gun, especially since I expect $ to be tight in the new year. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that that's ever stopped me b4. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Upon perusing yon Broker of Guns, I espy that .32 ACP Kel-Tecs are going for ~2 Benjamins. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have an old-school, blued-steel-and-walnut 1903 Browning... but those are running ~$800-$1,000+. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> A bit out of my price range, for a toy. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>

So, are Kel-Tecs jammamatics? Suicide specials? Even more dangerous than a Block? <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/2016/crazy2.gif border=0 align=middle> Or a hidden gem? He'p me, Arfie-wan-kenobi! <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
wat

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=iwr493bsao00zk8a00004&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F152298437746%3F_trksid%3Dp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Aaahhh, I see! I thought you were going to somehow convert a KT32 to fire .30-06!!! I think the round is actually longer than the pistol and probably heavier...

I have a KT P380 that's always gone bang for me but some folks here have had nothing but problems.

.45 G36 for comparison.
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Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:31:14 AM EST
I picked up a gen 2 Sub2k about 3 weeks ago. I went and shot it on Tuesday this week.

I'm in love.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:34:58 AM EST
PF9 and sub 2k. Both work great, never had a problem with them. They both like 147gr rounds. I like 'em.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:46:13 AM EST
I had a P-32 years ago and it was a great gun.
I wish I still had it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:47:27 AM EST
I have a p32 I've been carrying for the last year. 400 rounds through it, runs perfectly.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:50:10 AM EST
I have pocket carried a PF-9 in a desantis nemesis daily for the last 2-3 years. I sent it back to kel tec when I first got it for FTF issues and it has worked fine since.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:55:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:58:43 AM EST
I have thousands of rounds through my P-32 without a stoppage.

Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:59:20 AM EST
I don't own any of their pistols but I have been happy with my SU16.

California legal (for now) , detachable mag, semi auto rifle that takes AR mags and folds up into a small, discrete package.

It goes with me on every camping trip. Nice to have a rifle with me in a case that looks like a half dozen other camping items.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:06:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By John_McClane:
Just bought one of those .32 ACP-to-.30-06 chamber adapters off the Bay of E, which prompted me (naturally enough <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>) to contemplate buying yet another gun. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_headbang.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that I fucking need yet another gun, especially since I expect $ to be tight in the new year. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle> Not that that's ever stopped me b4. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Upon perusing yon Broker of Guns, I espy that .32 ACP Kel-Tecs are going for ~2 Benjamins. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have an old-school, blued-steel-and-walnut 1903 Browning... but those are running ~$800-$1,000+. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> A bit out of my price range, for a toy. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>

So, are Kel-Tecs jammamatics? Suicide specials? Even more dangerous than a Block? <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/2016/crazy2.gif border=0 align=middle> Or a hidden gem? He'p me, Arfie-wan-kenobi! <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
wat

Exactly
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