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Posted: 9/6/2004 3:57:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/6/2004 4:18:14 PM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 3:57:43 PM EST
I love eating spicy stuff while sitting on my porche. The back porche especially.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 3:57:45 PM EST
Whats a "Porche" ??
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 3:58:04 PM EST
P-O-R-S-C-H-E
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 3:58:40 PM EST
As in, back porche? Front porche?
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 3:58:55 PM EST
914, and a previous 87 911 in Euro trim and specs.

Cayeenne is hot, but not my cup of tea. I prefer my Audi TTQC now.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:00:15 PM EST
Poshes? We don need no steekin Poshes!

Fucking krautmobiles anyway! Buy a Japanese porsche, get an NSX or something.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:02:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:03:17 PM EST
I gotta classic waiting for resto. A 1955 356. It was my dads when he was a kid. The Cheyanne (sp?)looks sweet. Get the S model tho....
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:03:55 PM EST
The Cayenne is a retagged/glitzed-up Volkswagen Touareg.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:09:45 PM EST
yes
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:12:47 PM EST
I have a 1971 914
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:16:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By shootemup:
I gotta classic waiting for resto. A 1955 356. It was my dads when he was a kid. The Cheyanne (sp?)looks sweet. Get the S model tho....



NICE!!! I'm restoring two 1962 356Bs and within a year or so, am gonna get a Porsche as a daily-driver. Which one to get is my only problem. I'm leaning toward the 87-89 911 Carerra.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:17:18 PM EST
I'm fixin to make me drink and go set a spell on the porche.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:18:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Balzac72:
Poshes? We don need no steekin Poshes!

Fucking krautmobiles anyway! Buy a Japanese porsche, get an NSX or something.



Every post of yours makes me think more and more that you are a complete idiot.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:33:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:37:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Whats a "Porche" ??



Hoty-toty porch, the railing are usually fancier.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:38:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Steve-in-VA:
I'm the idiot; I can't even spell the make of the car I'm asking about.

Anyway, I've heard it's a waste of money but wanted more opinions.




It's a waste of money.

Not sure i dig the looks that much, but they could be worse (Avalanche, Aztek, Scion)
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:38:56 PM EST
What they dont tell you is the cost of ownership. We are not talking peanuts. $300-500 oil changes and maintance a pop. Tires that need replacement every 5000-10000 miles. Each costing around $500. Insurance. If this doesnt bother you, you should get one. They are fast and amazing cars. They are like fighter jets and need as much care.

I was going to buy a year old boxter with 2000 miles on it. The yearly oil change was $400 and this model has a popensity for killing wheel bearings and blowing transmission seals. The seal costs $15, the labor is around $850. They have to drop the tranny to get at it. The editor of Automobile magazine that I spoke to said to expect $2-3000 in maintance a year!

Exclusitivity has its costs I guess.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:43:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By Steve-in-VA:
Anyone have any experience with the Cayenne?



That thing is a crime against all that is holy. Porsche makes SPORTS CARS, not SUVs. You want a luxury sport ute that can actually perform, get a Range Rover or something.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:52:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 4:58:10 PM EST
I'm a fan, if and when I win the lottery I'll be shopping for a 956, 962C, and a 911GT1...As for now I'll just slum it with my krautmobile Audi A6...
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 5:01:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/6/2004 5:12:17 PM EST by Rem700PSS]
One fan here! No experience...but they are sweet.

Get the 911 Turbo S...yellow...leather...

QUESTION: How relieable are Porsches? Toyota...or...toy?
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 5:21:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Steve-in-VA:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
What they don’t tell you is the cost of ownership. We are not talking peanuts. $300-500 oil changes and maintance a pop. Tires that need replacement every 5000-10000 miles. Each costing around $500. Insurance. If this doesnt bother you, you should get one. They are fast and amazing cars. They are like fighter jets and need as much care.

I was going to buy a year old boxter with 2000 miles on it. The yearly oil change was $400 and this model has a popensity for killing wheel bearings and blowing transmission seals. The seal costs $15, the labor is around $850. They have to drop the tranny to get at it. The editor of Automobile magazine that I spoke to said to expect $2-3000 in maintance a year!

Exclusitivity has its costs I guess.



That I heard too- screw that shit.



Geez Doc you should stick to koochies. The dealer will charge you about $250 for an oil/filter change on a recent model 911 or Boxcar. If you stick to the suggested Porsche maint. schedule the first oil change is at one year or 15,000 miles. If you change your own oil and filter it will cost you less then $75 and thirty minutes of your time. Other then wiper blades, tires and brake pads pretty much everything else should be covered under warranty.

The warranty is bumper to bumper 4 years 50,000 miles. There are/were some problems with defective rear main seals/housings and Porsche was replacing the engine under warranty. Never heard of any wheel bearing or transmission seal problems on Boxcars or 911's.

Tire life will depend on how aggressive you drive and what tires you buy. Tires usually last about 10,000-15,000 on the rears and 20,000-30,000 miles on the front. Tires shouldn’t run more then $650/$700 a set balanced and mounted on the car. If you track the car you’re not going to running on your street tires anyway.

I'm not an SUV fan so I don't know nuthin about the Cayenne. I've always had a 4WD pickemup truck to use in the winter.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 5:25:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By shootemup:
I gotta classic waiting for resto. A 1955 356. It was my dads when he was a kid.



Sweet!

Link Posted: 9/6/2004 5:34:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
painted my porche a nice shade of grey with a 6" brush.



<snort!>

A guy at work actually restored an older Porsche (930??) that some nimrod painted a funky blue using latex house paint & a brush......
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 11:49:22 PM EST
Cayenne sucks...its just fast.

Poor reliability. HEAPS are being sent back to Porsche to get repaired here. There was even a whole batch which was defective so they had to be replaced.

Porsche has dropped a few ranks on the reliability chart cos of the Cayenne.


Ill ask my friend who is a Porsche mechanic on what he thinks of them...
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 11:55:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Taildragger:



Now, thats my kinda Porsche! (even though it does look suspiciously like a Mooney, especially the tail)

I didn't know you could get custom N-numbers.....I bet that costs a pretty penny as well.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:27:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
The Cayenne is a retagged/glitzed-up Volkswagen Touareg.




Ummmmmm, no. They share a platform and doors. Different engine, tranny, suspension and interior.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:12:58 AM EST

Now, thats my kinda Porsche! (even though it does look suspiciously like a Mooney, especially the tail)

I didn't know you could get custom N-numbers.....I bet that costs a pretty penny as well.



It really has a Porsche engine! Porsche is in the process of buying them back (the engines, not the airframes), too expinsive to support,liability issues. Custom N#'s are pretty easy .
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:28:58 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:58:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 4:01:39 AM EST by rkbar15]
This is the Porsche you should be driving!

2004 Porsche Carrera GT
Technical Specifications:
Engine
Type: V10
Displacement cu in (cc): 348 (5700)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 605(450) / 8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 437(590) / 5750
Redline at RPM: 8400

Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 265/35 ZR19 - 335/30 ZR20

Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 181.6 × 75.6 × 45.9
Weight lb (kg): 3042 (1380)
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 205 (330)

Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.

Base Price: 2004 Porsche Carrera GT - $440,000 / 452,690 € (last update: 6/18/2004)

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:21:55 AM EST
Same windshield, tranny, switches, electrical harnesses and computer modules
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:28:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:35:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle:

Originally Posted By Taildragger:



Now, thats my kinda Porsche! (even though it does look suspiciously like a Mooney, especially the tail)

I didn't know you could get custom N-numbers.....I bet that costs a pretty penny as well.





Looks like a Mooney 20L, correct me if I'm wrong
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:58:38 AM EST
I guess you could say I am a Porsche fan. I was a Porsche dealership service manager for awhile. I enjoyed driving them more than ANY other car I have worked with.

The Cayenne and the VW have computer and electrical problems. Alot of the problems are software related and can be flash fixed to the onboard module so it not that big a deal. I still would wait another year before I considered getting one.

The VW V 10 diesel has promise.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:33:37 AM EST
Porsche is a tiny independant car company with very limited cash to develope new vehicles. They jointly developed the Cayenne/Touareg platform in order to reduce their development costs. Although they both share some components there are some major differences in acceleration, handling and braking between the two. The Porsche uses a Porsche developed V8 while the Touareg uses an Audi V8. A lower cost Cayenne was also introduced in 2004 using a VW V6 that was modified extensively by Porsche.

Porsche has an engineering group that also designed the HD V-Rod and Volvo 5/6 cyl Turbo engines. They also have a design group that has designed all kinds of stuff.

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:36:45 AM EST
My neighbor has the "S" model...it sure sounds sweet
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:42:43 AM EST
Totally off topic, but...

I am currently reading Albert Speer's biography. Dr. Porsche receives no small mention for his part in designing/producing the heavy battle tanks on which Hitler insisted. As well as other vehicles and products to support the war effort. The book also features a picture of a smiling Porsche next to other Nazis and German vehicles.

The Porsche U.S. marketing people would have fits.

-Z
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:50:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Steve-in-VA:
Anyone have any experience with the Cayenne?



If you really want people's experience with the Cayenne, don't go here, go to your local Porsche club - in this case, if you're in Northern VA, www.pcapotomac.org - I'm a member - although I don't own a Cayenne, so I can't comment reliably. Just come to a meeting and talk to current Cayenne owners. Or go to www.rennlist.com and the Cayenne forum.

Porsche - there is no substitute.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:52:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:57:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Dave45:
Porsche - there is no substitute.



I'm sure I could "get by" with a Ferrari -- maybe a Vette or Viper in a pinch.



And I'm sure if he asked for your opinion on Corvettes or Vipers you'd be laughing on the floor too...

I don't know one of either I would've wanted for what I paid for my Porsche.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:16:28 AM EST
get the fx-45

Almost the same performance

20% of the maint. cost.

TXL
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:31:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:37:40 AM EST
I've loved Porsches since my Dad drove up in the yard in one while we were overseas in the late 60's.
The Cayenne seems to be Porsche's attempt to cash in on the SUV craze. If you are going to get an SUV you can get a nice one for half the price. If you're going to buy a Porsche buy something you'll be talking about when you are 80 not some grocery getter for the wife.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:47:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
17 years ago I left duty in Japan with $35,000 in my E-6 pocket and came home looking to buy a used Porsche or get married .... 17 years of happy bliss with my beautiful wife and I'm still looking for a Porsche.



That says it all

Thanks for the sigline!
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:29:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
Porsche makes another model than the 911?

You're kidding me.

I'm looking really hard at a $54,000 Boxster S ... and a friend has a used Carerra that she's offered to sell me, but it's brown!



If you are interested in a Boxcar S don't drive a Carerra!

Who buys a brown Porsche? I've only ever seen one and it was nasty.

Since you're in CA you could always go with a custom Janis Joplin color scheme.

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:39:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 3:40:43 PM EST by Taildragger]

Looks like a Mooney 20L, correct me if I'm wrong




If you know of the M 20L, surely you know of the MikePoppa Mooneys.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:39:57 PM EST
Nope. Many better ways to spend money...That much is certain.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:46:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
painted my porche a nice shade of grey with a 6" brush.



<snort!>

A guy at work actually restored an older Porsche (930??) that some nimrod painted a funky blue using latex house paint & a brush......



You know, I get accused of some outrageous things, but that is just beyond the pale.

Seriously though, my dream "mid-life crisis" car is a 1965 Porsche 911 (first model-year and year I was born.)
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