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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:43:14 PM EDT
I'm trying to buy a house thats located 200 yards away from a drinking water treatment plant. I guess the good news is my water should be fresh.
Any concerns with living near this type of facility? Chlorine, fluoride, or other chemicals that pose a potential hazard if they were to leak? Any mitigation or preps I should take for these contingencies? ETA - This plant claims it can treat 10 million gallons a day. Satellite pics show a few possible holding tanks. Five or so. Pic of the facility is below. It looks like it would fit on 12 acres. The two large circular things they are building in the lower left of the picture are now two large circular cylinders. I'm guessing water storage. LARGER PIC 
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:46:49 PM EDT
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I did maintenance during two summers while in college.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:47:17 PM EDT
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A chlorine release should be tops on your list. Getting the hell out fast would be advisable.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:49:14 PM EDT
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The only thing to be worried about would be the size of the facility. If they use chlorine gas for disinfection, there might be some big tanks on hand (even railroad cars for some huge towns) The storage of cylinders is a key factor in safety and is usually kept in a separate area with sniffing devices and alarms.
A lot of small municipalities and villages use liquid yet also (slight spill hazard, but nothing to worry about), but I don't know how big of a system we're talking here. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:50:26 PM EDT
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Poop thread
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:54:29 PM EDT
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The only thing to be worried about would be the size of the facility. If they use chlorine gas for disinfection, there might be some big tanks on hand (even railroad cars for some huge towns) The storage of cylinders is a key factor in safety and is usually kept in a separate area with sniffing devices and alarms. A lot of small municipalities and villages use liquid yet also (slight spill hazard, but nothing to worry about), but I don't know how big of a system we're talking here. Its not a large facility. No railroad tracks. I found a page for the facility that lists 12,000lbs of chlorine is onsight along with a list of safety measures, detection alarms, and who the responding agencies would be if there were a leak. Wonder if I can get my own detector installed... |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:54:39 PM EDT
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It may impurify your precious bodily fluids.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:55:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:58:29 PM EDT
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Water taste could be an issue. Chlorine dosage is based on the chlorine level at the very end of the pipeline, so the closer to the treatment plant, the higher the level of chlorine.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:03:01 PM EDT
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I'm trying to buy a house thats located 200 yards away from a drinking water treatment plant. I guess the good news is my water should be fresh. Any concerns with living near this type of facility? Chlorine, fluoride, or other chemicals that pose a potential hazard if they were to leak? Any mitigation or preps I should take for these contingencies? The facility I worked at was for a large metropolitan area and just our plant (one of many) had the capacity to treat 80 million gallons a day, so chances are what I saw is not what you are going to live next to. The good news is that if there is a catastrophic chlorine leak, everyone dies. The bad news is that if there is a catastrophic chlorine leak, you are going to be one of the first to go. We had 20 large chlorine tanks, I can't remember their size, but in the "worst case scenario", the chlorine cloud would have killed hundreds of thousands of the nearby residents. Hexafluorosilicic acid is what most water districts use to fluoradate their water... it really isn't a concern to you as a neighbor, but it does produce small quantities of hydrogen fluoride gas which is pretty bad stuff, though not at all as dangerous as chlorine gas. Caustic soda is also used, but you wouldn't be exposed to it in the even of a leak. Activated charcoal is also used at times, if their equipment goes down in the summer (which it will), the charcoal will have to be manually added to the water system. An explosion could occur with the dust, though that is highly unlikely to happen. I would have no problem living next to a treatment facility. The EPA and OSHA regulations were so stringent and the safety procedures and physical safeguards built into the structures were extremely safe that I never felt nervous about working there. While working there, I had a higher risk of drowning or getting bitten by a poisonous spider, than getting hurt by any of the chemicals used in the treatment process. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:05:32 PM EDT
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Wouldn't the skimming ponds smell? Or am I thinking about the wrong type of plant?
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:07:55 PM EDT
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The only thing to be worried about would be the size of the facility. If they use chlorine gas for disinfection, there might be some big tanks on hand (even railroad cars for some huge towns) The storage of cylinders is a key factor in safety and is usually kept in a separate area with sniffing devices and alarms. A lot of small municipalities and villages use liquid yet also (slight spill hazard, but nothing to worry about), but I don't know how big of a system we're talking here. Its not a large facility. No railroad tracks. I found a page for the facility that lists 12,000lbs of chlorine is onsight along with a list of safety measures, detection alarms, and who the responding agencies would be if there were a leak. Wonder if I can get my own detector installed... If you had a detector, it would do you no good. You must have an SCBA in order to survive a chlorine gas leak. I remember watching one of those safety meeting videos about a derailment where a railcar of chlorine gas broke open and the gas took out the nearby town. The people who received advanced warning were told to cover the windows and doors to prevent gas from entering their homes. The people who did so were also told to stay inside until help came. People died because the gas entered through whatever containment they put in thier doors and windows and the gas stayed inside their homes.... while the gas cloud outside passed by and the air cleared to life supporting levels. Damned if you do, damned if you don't type situation... |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:11:41 PM EDT
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Wouldn't the skimming ponds smell? Or am I thinking about the wrong type of plant? I believe that would be a waste water treatment plant. I.E. cleaning the water before it gets dumped back into the river, lake, ocean, etc. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:12:55 PM EDT
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Wouldn't the skimming ponds smell? Or am I thinking about the wrong type of plant? A waste water treatment plant smells. That's the "black water"... A water treatment plant typically cleans water from "fresh water" sources. During treatment, a process called "floculation" occurs which takes all the fish crap etc out of the water and it falls to the bottom as sediment (known as sludge). The sludge is automatically removed and pumped to holding ponds/areas where remaining water evaporates. The sludge is then left to dry and trucked out. While the sludge dries, it does smell like a lake. But it does not smell like poop. 
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:17:37 PM EDT
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I'm trying to buy a house thats located 200 yards away from a drinking water treatment plant. I guess the good news is my water should be fresh. Any concerns with living near this type of facility? Chlorine, fluoride, or other chemicals that pose a potential hazard if they were to leak? Any mitigation or preps I should take for these contingencies? The facility I worked at was for a large metropolitan area and just our plant (one of many) had the capacity to treat 80 million gallons a day, so chances are what I saw is not what you are going to live next to. The good news is that if there is a catastrophic chlorine leak, everyone dies. The bad news is that if there is a catastrophic chlorine leak, you are going to be one of the first to go. We had 20 large chlorine tanks, I can't remember their size, but in the "worst case scenario", the chlorine cloud would have killed hundreds of thousands of the nearby residents. Hexafluorosilicic acid is what most water districts use to fluoradate their water... it really isn't a concern to you as a neighbor, but it does produce small quantities of hydrogen fluoride gas which is pretty bad stuff, though not at all as dangerous as chlorine gas. Caustic soda is also used, but you wouldn't be exposed to it in the even of a leak. Activated charcoal is also used at times, if their equipment goes down in the summer (which it will), the charcoal will have to be manually added to the water system. An explosion could occur with the dust, though that is highly unlikely to happen. I would have no problem living next to a treatment facility. The EPA and OSHA regulations were so stringent and the safety procedures and physical safeguards built into the structures were extremely safe that I never felt nervous about working there. While working there, I had a higher risk of drowning or getting bitten by a poisonous spider, than getting hurt by any of the chemicals used in the treatment process. This plant claims it can treat 10 million gallons a day. Satellite pics show a few possible holding tanks. Five or so. Pic of the facility is below. It looks like it would fit on 12 acres. The two large circular things they are building in the lower left of the picture are now two large circular cylinders. I'm guessing water storage. LARGER PIC
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:38:53 PM EDT
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This plant claims it can treat 10 million gallons a day. Satellite pics show a few possible holding tanks. Five or so. Pic of the facility is below. It looks like it would fit on 12 acres. The two large circular things they are building in the lower left of the picture are now two large circular cylinders. I'm guessing water storage. LARGER PIC http://nullbits.foxxz.net/albums/random/waterplant.jpg Those are for water storage.You can tell by the gravel on the surface of the storage structure. I have a clue, but would rather not say on the internet where they are storing their chlorine. Looks like a pretty standard facility that would serve a town in anywhere USA. The good thing about being their neighbor is the added security. DHS regulates water treatment facility security... your home should be a bit safer than most
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:42:02 PM EDT
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Are you uphill or down hill from the plant? Chlorine gas is heavier than air.
What direction does the wind mostly blow from? Which direction is your house? |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:45:54 PM EDT
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This plant claims it can treat 10 million gallons a day. Satellite pics show a few possible holding tanks. Five or so. Pic of the facility is below. It looks like it would fit on 12 acres. The two large circular things they are building in the lower left of the picture are now two large circular cylinders. I'm guessing water storage. LARGER PIC http://nullbits.foxxz.net/albums/random/waterplant.jpg Those are for water storage.You can tell by the gravel on the surface of the storage structure. I have a clue, but would rather not say on the internet where they are storing their chlorine. Looks like a pretty standard facility that would serve a town in anywhere USA. The good thing about being their neighbor is the added security. DHS regulates water treatment facility security... your home should be a bit safer than most Where the water storage tanks are my house is like 175 yards away. The facility and the house are on different sides of a slight hill with the top of it in between us. I don't own the home yet. Working on it though. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:58:39 PM EDT
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Where the water storage tanks are my house is like 175 yards away. The facility and the house are on different sides of a slight hill with the top of it in between us. I don't own the home yet. Working on it though. The storage tanks are underground and I assume would be built of a strong enough concrete to withstand an earthquake. Unless their property was elevated above yours, I wouldn't worry about floods headed your way... but you never know... You could always call the water district and ask to speak with the manager or the lead engineer. Tell them where your potential house is located and ask about your safety concerns. See what they say. I was only a summer maintenance worker, maybe someone on arfcom is a water operator or water engineer, they might be able to add something I don't know. This is all just my opinion, but it would be wise to look at flood insurance or see if you are in a potential flood plain? just in case. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 1:59:49 PM EDT
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10 MGD is pretty small. .40mgl Cl2 residual would only need about 34lbs of Chlorine or 34gal of %12-15 Bleach per day.
Dealing with Chlorine gas is a real regulatory headache esp when you start talking Ton Cylinders and Tanker cars, the trend is to go away from Chlorine gas. For a NEW treatment plant that small I would say generated on site Sodium Hypochlorate solution or a UV / Ozone system..so a Chlorine gas leak is not a worry. From the pic they maybe using other chemicals and such for eliminating particulates ( flaculation ? ) but nothing close to dangerous as Molecular Chlorine . At the bottom of the pic they are prepping the foundations for two large water storage tanks. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:35:02 PM EDT
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I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Having 12,000 lbs of chlorine doesn't mean it is all hooked up ready to go. If they are using 1 ton cylinders, they will only have a few hooked up to a manifold. This of course is if they are using gas. More and more people are getting away from it and going to other methods. Usually the Utilities will share some information with you if you ask.
The large ponds might be sludge storage for the solids they take out of the water. The cross hatched area appears to be standard clarifiers. Just to the right of it are the filters. As far as chemicals, the hydrofluorosilicic acid(floride) is the most toxic. They likely feed other chemical that cause the particles to flock and drop out. This forms the sludge that they have do deal with. Unless they are adding upflow clarifiers, the round areas are likely storage tanks. I don't see a water source a creek discharge. Can you post a larger view? |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:42:41 PM EDT
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I just noticed that I repeated everything that Tangeant already said.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 6:06:23 PM EDT
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I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Having 12,000 lbs of chlorine doesn't mean it is all hooked up ready to go. If they are using 1 ton cylinders, they will only have a few hooked up to a manifold. This of course is if they are using gas. More and more people are getting away from it and going to other methods. Usually the Utilities will share some information with you if you ask. The large ponds might be sludge storage for the solids they take out of the water. The cross hatched area appears to be standard clarifiers. Just to the right of it are the filters. As far as chemicals, the hydrofluorosilicic acid(floride) is the most toxic. They likely feed other chemical that cause the particles to flock and drop out. This forms the sludge that they have do deal with. Unless they are adding upflow clarifiers, the round areas are likely storage tanks. I don't see a water source a creek discharge. Can you post a larger view? If I get the house I will likely call someone and ask if they are using chlorine for sure. I'm pretty positive they are based on the document I found. The pic I posted is the relevant plant. I don't know where they are sourcing water. There is a small lake 1.5 miles away and a stream about 1 mile. Lots of nearby ponds and rolling hills. The area doesn't lack water. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 6:33:16 PM EDT
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That facility appears to be using sodium hypochlorite, not clorine gas. Looks like flouride, as well. Not sure what that taller tank is. Ozone, maybe? CO2?
At any rate, the water management office has the reports on spillage and they are almost always availible to people in the surrounding area. A quick phone call should be all that is needed. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 6:41:47 PM EDT
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A chlorine release should be tops on your list. Getting the hell out fast would be advisable. A couple of weeks ago I was doing some work in a small municipal water plant, the chlorine was strong in the building, and it was eating everything metal. Everything was rusty, and anything that wasn't incredibly thick was rusted out at one spot or another. Of course there is always the issue of the smell of poop. You do like the smell of stale poop don't you? Sure you do, otherwise you wouldn't be considering a home that close to a facility that smells like poop for a few hours a day. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 7:57:05 PM EDT
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A chlorine release should be tops on your list. Getting the hell out fast would be advisable. A couple of weeks ago I was doing some work in a small municipal water plant, the chlorine was strong in the building, and it was eating everything metal. Everything was rusty, and anything that wasn't incredibly thick was rusted out at one spot or another. Of course there is always the issue of the smell of poop. You do like the smell of stale poop don't you? Sure you do, otherwise you wouldn't be considering a home that close to a facility that smells like poop for a few hours a day. And what is there that smells like poop? And have you worked often at this type of facility? You realize this is drinking water and not waste water we're talking about right? |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:13:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A chlorine release should be tops on your list. Getting the hell out fast would be advisable. A couple of weeks ago I was doing some work in a small municipal water plant, the chlorine was strong in the building, and it was eating everything metal. Everything was rusty, and anything that wasn't incredibly thick was rusted out at one spot or another. Of course there is always the issue of the smell of poop. You do like the smell of stale poop don't you? Sure you do, otherwise you wouldn't be considering a home that close to a facility that smells like poop for a few hours a day. And what is there that smells like poop? And have you worked often at this type of facility? You realize this is drinking water and not waste water we're talking about right? I've got bad news for you, bud. That does not look like a freshwater treatment facility. It DOES look like a wastewater facility. You might want to double check or stop by and ask someone who works there, but from that picture you posted, I'd give it a 99% chance they're dealing with waste water and not drinking water. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:20:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A chlorine release should be tops on your list. Getting the hell out fast would be advisable. A couple of weeks ago I was doing some work in a small municipal water plant, the chlorine was strong in the building, and it was eating everything metal. Everything was rusty, and anything that wasn't incredibly thick was rusted out at one spot or another. Of course there is always the issue of the smell of poop. You do like the smell of stale poop don't you? Sure you do, otherwise you wouldn't be considering a home that close to a facility that smells like poop for a few hours a day. And what is there that smells like poop? And have you worked often at this type of facility? You realize this is drinking water and not waste water we're talking about right? I've got bad news for you, bud. That does not look like a freshwater treatment facility. It DOES look like a wastewater facility. You might want to double check or stop by and ask someone who works there, but from that picture you posted, I'd give it a 99% chance they're dealing with waste water and not drinking water. That is not a wastewater plant. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:31:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A chlorine release should be tops on your list. Getting the hell out fast would be advisable. A couple of weeks ago I was doing some work in a small municipal water plant, the chlorine was strong in the building, and it was eating everything metal. Everything was rusty, and anything that wasn't incredibly thick was rusted out at one spot or another. Of course there is always the issue of the smell of poop. You do like the smell of stale poop don't you? Sure you do, otherwise you wouldn't be considering a home that close to a facility that smells like poop for a few hours a day. And what is there that smells like poop? And have you worked often at this type of facility? You realize this is drinking water and not waste water we're talking about right? I've got bad news for you, bud. That does not look like a freshwater treatment facility. It DOES look like a wastewater facility. You might want to double check or stop by and ask someone who works there, but from that picture you posted, I'd give it a 99% chance they're dealing with waste water and not drinking water. That is not a wastewater plant. I think you're wrong. All I'm asking is for OP to double check and make sure. It's neither good, nor bad, but if he's going to buy a house right there, he needs to know which type of water is being treated. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:34:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A chlorine release should be tops on your list. Getting the hell out fast would be advisable. A couple of weeks ago I was doing some work in a small municipal water plant, the chlorine was strong in the building, and it was eating everything metal. Everything was rusty, and anything that wasn't incredibly thick was rusted out at one spot or another. Of course there is always the issue of the smell of poop. You do like the smell of stale poop don't you? Sure you do, otherwise you wouldn't be considering a home that close to a facility that smells like poop for a few hours a day. And what is there that smells like poop? And have you worked often at this type of facility? You realize this is drinking water and not waste water we're talking about right? I've got bad news for you, bud. That does not look like a freshwater treatment facility. It DOES look like a wastewater facility. You might want to double check or stop by and ask someone who works there, but from that picture you posted, I'd give it a 99% chance they're dealing with waste water and not drinking water. That is not a wastewater plant. I think you're wrong. All I'm asking is for OP to double check and make sure. It's neither good, nor bad, but if he's going to buy a house right there, he needs to know which type of water is being treated. Considering I build them for a living, I think I might know what one looks like. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:36:46 PM EDT
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This is a pretty large water treatment facility.
No open ponds, no trademark round clarifiers.  This is a really large waste water treatment facility. Open ponds, skimming equipment, trademark round clarifiers.  |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:39:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: Considering I build them for a living, I think I might know what one looks like. Oh good, so you know all about clarifiers and aerating ponds? Those little squares in the OP's picture are aerating ponds. The two round things they're building are clarifiers That's trademark waste water treatment, because potable water treatment doesn't use either of those pieces of infrastructure. ETA: The one thing I don't see in the OP's picture is a fermenter, so now I'm second guessing myself. Maybe it's not a large enough facility to have one.  |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:47:17 PM EDT
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Hah! I just called the facility at 12:45am. They said they are a drinking water facility.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:52:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hah! I just called the facility at 12:45am. They said they are a drinking water facility. Okay, good. Holy shit, I was wrong again.   ETA: You guys must use some process that's completely foreign to me, because I would have bet money on that being a waste water facility. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:53:08 PM EDT
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You need to call them up and ask them how many ways you can die if you lived next door. The dude's bored. Make him read emergency prep instructions.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:55:24 PM EDT
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OP, do you own a Gold Desert Eagle?
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:56:49 PM EDT
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Yes I called a SECOND time and had an extended conversation with the guy who was really nice.
He said they no longer use chlorine gas. They use hypochlorite. The house I'm looking at is tapped right off their main line for water. He recommended I call their lab guys or the plant manager and talk to him and get a tour 
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:57:39 PM EDT
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OP, do you own a Gold Desert Eagle? I did up til a few years ago. I really liked that gun but I didn't shoot it enough and all it did was get me more attention at the range than I liked. ETA - That gun was also a dirty pig to clean. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:57:50 PM EDT
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Hah! I just called the facility at 12:45am. They said they are a drinking water facility. 
*this is supposed to be a headshot to TT*
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:00:57 PM EDT
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Hey TT, you don't live by the ski jump part of Calgary do you?
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:02:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yes I called a SECOND time and had an extended conversation with the guy who was really nice. He said they no longer use chlorine gas. They use hypochlorite. The house I'm looking at is tapped right off their main line for water. He recommended I call their lab guys or the plant manager and talk to him and get a tour Either fresh water or waste water facilities are probably some of the most strategic facilities you could choose to live next to. If shit ever does hit the fan, you can guarantee that you state / federal government will do absolutely everything in their power to keep them running as long as they can. They're also sizable terrorist targets; so take your pick.  |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:03:34 PM EDT
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Yes I called a SECOND time and had an extended conversation with the guy who was really nice. He said they no longer use chlorine gas. They use hypochlorite. The house I'm looking at is tapped right off their main line for water. He recommended I call their lab guys or the plant manager and talk to him and get a tour Either fresh water or waste water facilities are probably some of the most strategic facilities you could choose to live next to. If shit ever does hit the fan, you can guarantee that you state / federal government will do absolutely everything in their power to keep them running as long as they can. They're also sizable terrorist targets; so take your pick.
Thats actually the reason he quoted that they stopped using chlorine gas. That DHS said it posed a risk for terrorists trying to steal it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:03:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hey TT, you don't live by the ski jump part of Calgary do you? I'm ~20 miles or so away from there, on the hood side of Calgary. I fit in pretty well. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:06:45 PM EDT
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I live about 2 miles in a rural area from a water treatment plant.
Truck driver making a delivery put the wrong chemical in the wrong tank, blew the place up. Chlorine gas cloud caused a reverse 911 call for everyone to stay inside. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:06:48 PM EDT
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Thats actually the reason he quoted that they stopped using chlorine gas. That DHS said it posed a risk for terrorists trying to steal it. I think 99% of "terrorists" would probably kill themselves in the process of stealing chlorine gas. The 1% that could pull it off probably wouldn't be messing with a chlorine gas attack and would mastermind something more sinister I would imagine. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:08:01 PM EDT
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steal it?
\BUWAHAHAHA. I think he thought that sounded less scary then 'blow it the fuck up and kill us all'. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:09:39 PM EDT
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Hey TT, you don't live by the ski jump part of Calgary do you? I'm ~20 miles or so away from there, on the hood side of Calgary.
I fit in pretty well.
The Calgary "hood", lol. Is that where people aspire to become criminals on Hastings or Jane&Finch, but don't want to move away from their parents? Or just where the natives like to congregate? |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:09:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes I called a SECOND time and had an extended conversation with the guy who was really nice. He said they no longer use chlorine gas. They use hypochlorite. The house I'm looking at is tapped right off their main line for water. He recommended I call their lab guys or the plant manager and talk to him and get a tour Either fresh water or waste water facilities are probably some of the most strategic facilities you could choose to live next to. If shit ever does hit the fan, you can guarantee that you state / federal government will do absolutely everything in their power to keep them running as long as they can. They're also sizable terrorist targets; so take your pick. Thats actually the reason he quoted that they stopped using chlorine gas. That DHS said it posed a risk for terrorists trying to steal it. The "newest" waste water facility in my city uses UV disinfectant as the final treatment step. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:11:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hey TT, you don't live by the ski jump part of Calgary do you? I'm ~20 miles or so away from there, on the hood side of Calgary. I fit in pretty well. The Calgary "hood", lol. Is that where people aspire to become criminals on Hastings or Jane&Finch, but don't want to move away from their parents? Or just where the natives like to congregate? We have hoods!  No, just kidding. It's mostly white trash and Somali immigrants. I'm still trying to decide which group I should belong to if shit goes down. And don't get me started on the fucking natives.  |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:48:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hah! I just called the facility at 12:45am. They said they are a drinking water facility. Gee, imagine that. Guess the guy that builds them knows a little more about them then the Canuck. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:49:00 PM EDT
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This plant claims it can treat 10 million gallons a day. Satellite pics show a few possible holding tanks. Five or so. Pic of the facility is below. It looks like it would fit on 12 acres. The two large circular things they are building in the lower left of the picture are now two large circular cylinders. I'm guessing water storage. LARGER PIC http://nullbits.foxxz.net/albums/random/waterplant.jpg Those are for water storage.You can tell by the gravel on the surface of the storage structure. I have a clue, but would rather not say on the internet where they are storing their chlorine. Looks like a pretty standard facility that would serve a town in anywhere USA. The good thing about being their neighbor is the added security. DHS regulates water treatment facility security... your home should be a bit safer than most Where the water storage tanks are my house is like 175 yards away. The facility and the house are on different sides of a slight hill with the top of it in between us. I don't own the home yet. Working on it though. Then you're good to go. A Cl gas leak would flow downhill away from the plant, unless winds are strong in the opposite direction. These releases are really rare, I wouldn't worry too much. I live in view of a 300 mgd (million gallon per day) ozone water treatment plant that my employer operates. I don't work there but I did drop water samples at their lab today. The plant has a full buildout of 800 mgd. They make the ozone onsite from oxygen separated from air and a shitload of electricity in a room full of really cool reactors. We use ozone as primary disinfectant in town (at the plant) and supplement it with sodiumhypochlorite (strong bleach) injected into the outflow and supplemented at our reservoirs. We also use the hypochlorite to treat our well water. Our wells only need the hypochlorite added for municipal delivery. We used to use Cl gas injectors in town but we abandoned that practice for safety reasons. |
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