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Posted: 9/19/2009 3:07:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 3:54:12 AM EST by ANGST]
After reading a bunch of threads here on subjects like TEOTWAWKI , various laws, or government involvement with anything. I am convinced that some of our members are actual anarchists ?


What do you think ?


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:09:41 AM EST
A Republic is only half a step to the left of Anarchy.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:10:07 AM EST
Probably. A lot of people want anarchy or full blown SHTF to happen for a variety of reasons. Some think it will be "fun". Others want to be able to tell their family members "See! I told you so!" Still others think that a social collapse would result in more freedom, and the ability to remove social parasites at will.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:11:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 3:12:29 AM EST by TrijiCog]
Just cubicle commandos blowing off some steam at work,instead of working.TEOTWAWKI to them is when the IT guy blocks certain websites and they are forced to do what they were paid to do,work.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:13:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By TrijiCog:
Just cubicle commandos blowing off some steam at work,instead of working.TEOTWAWKI to them is when the IT guy blocks certain websites and they are forced to do what they were paid to do,work.


Probably. But don't underestimate the rage a lot of people have pent up.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:15:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By agillig:

Originally Posted By TrijiCog:
Just cubicle commandos blowing off some steam at work,instead of working.TEOTWAWKI to them is when the IT guy blocks certain websites and they are forced to do what they were paid to do,work.


Probably. But don't underestimate the rage a lot of people have pent up.


I have a feeling many people think they want anarchy, but once it came around they'd be wishing for the old (Democrat /Obama led) government back quickly.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:17:15 AM EST
Maybe we could just get it in a few states. That would spice up vacation options.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:24:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Maybe we could just get it in a few states. That would spice up vacation options.


I thought we already had it in a couple of states.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:27:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By agillig:

Originally Posted By TrijiCog:
Just cubicle commandos blowing off some steam at work,instead of working.TEOTWAWKI to them is when the IT guy blocks certain websites and they are forced to do what they were paid to do,work.


Probably. But don't underestimate the rage a lot of people have pent up.


Yeah, there could be facebook pages and <shudder to think> maybe even tweets on the topic.

OH the Huge Manatee!

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:27:21 AM EST
Thought I should save this result


Nope, not really

Definately true anarchists here

No, they are just hardcore libertarians

No, just people who like to talk a big "game"






(0) 0%

(7) 33.3%

(7) 33.3%

(7) 33.3%
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:30:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 3:30:10 AM EST by PBIR]
Originally Posted By yaardbyrd:

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Maybe we could just get it in a few states. That would spice up vacation options.


I thought we already had it in a couple of states.


That's not anarchy, it's stupidity. Get back to me when you can weld a battering ram on the front of your vehicle and plow through traffic on the way back to your fortress from a day spent hunting politicians in the countryside.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:34:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Originally Posted By yaardbyrd:

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Maybe we could just get it in a few states. That would spice up vacation options.


I thought we already had it in a couple of states.


That's not anarchy, it's stupidity. Get back to me when you can weld a battering ram on the front of your vehicle and plow through traffic on the way back to your fortress from a day spent hunting politicians in the countryside.

yeah........I guess. But hey........have ya been to Detroit lately? I know....that's only a city
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:37:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By PBIR:
Originally Posted By yaardbyrd:

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Maybe we could just get it in a few states. That would spice up vacation options.


I thought we already had it in a couple of states.


That's not anarchy, it's stupidity. Get back to me when you can weld a battering ram on the front of your vehicle and plow through traffic on the way back to your fortress from a day spent hunting politicians in the countryside.



Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:42:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 3:44:58 AM EST by Da_Bunny]
"Burn down the Mission if you want to stay aliiiiiive."

I'm convinced some of us will have to dip into our ammo supply in the not-so-distant future.

If Nancy Pelosi asked people to turn down the rhetoric, it's only because she went to DU and had a look around.

It has been FAR more rational on the RW sites. The Left can taste and smell the Communism and they want it bad.

It's making them all crazy.



ETA: You don't hunt politicians in the countryside, you hunt them in the cities, hiding among their human hostages.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:44:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Originally Posted By agillig:

Originally Posted By TrijiCog:
Just cubicle commandos blowing off some steam at work,instead of working.TEOTWAWKI to them is when the IT guy blocks certain websites and they are forced to do what they were paid to do,work.


Probably. But don't underestimate the rage a lot of people have pent up.


Yeah, there could be facebook pages and <shudder to think> maybe even tweets on the topic.

OH the Huge Manatee!




I think you're not really paying attention. Do you really think in 1930 that the majority of people living in Germany had ANY idea what was about to hit their country? The people who have carried this country have been disregarded and humiliated for decades. Individually, no, they won't do anything. In a large group, or properly motivated, they would be extremely dangerous.

When have we ever seen tens of thousands (more perhaps) of working class conservatives march on Washington? When have we seen people so angry they were almost in tears screaming at Congressmen? This is just the primer.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:56:58 AM EST
I think there are 3 types of "Survivalists"

Type I: Due to bad decisions at certain points in their lives, look forward to a major breakdown in society. They feel that once this happens, they will be able to assume their rightful place in society.

Type II: Normal overly materialistic Americans who buy ammo and Mountain house instead of the Top 10 must have gadgets of the new year. They are the "I Told You So's"

Type III: These folks hope and pray that all their ammased food, equipment and knowledge are all for naught, but prepare anyway because its the proper thing to do to ensure their families safety in the event of a major breakdown.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:00:36 AM EST
I think the majority want the constitutional republic we're supposed to have and are true to their convictions

anything less (or more) than the .gov we're supposed to have, by law, is unacceptable.


Lliberalism, comunism, socialism (and their various shadings) have all taken a parasitic hold of the very thing most love, Freedom.
Much like a parent that will do what ever it takes to preserve the life of their child, the same can be said for many here, and they're tired of the never ending assault.
all this pussyfooting around of late, isn't going to get anyone anywhere. people want a stop to it all, NOW, much like what had(still?) been the American way. they just want to 'get r done'
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:18:59 AM EST
Anarchists have to be the stupidest people that can still breath unassisted.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:19:35 AM EST
I voted 'yes' since there are all types here.

We have Obama voters, young 'uns under 21, JBTs, cubicle/couch commandos, .mil vets, criminals, LEOs, ........
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:24:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
I think there are 3 types of "Survivalists"

Type I: Due to bad decisions at certain points in their lives, look forward to a major breakdown in society. They feel that once this happens, they will be able to assume their rightful place in society.

Type II: Normal overly materialistic Americans who buy ammo and Mountain house instead of the Top 10 must have gadgets of the new year. They are the "I Told You So's"

Type III: These folks hope and pray that all their ammased food, equipment and knowledge are all for naught, but prepare anyway because its the proper thing to do to ensure their families safety in the event of a major breakdown.



Knowing myself, I think all types are possible in one person.

I kinda like taking a nice warm shower everyday, having plenty to eat, and living in a safe neighborhood.
but I also love adventure although I don't think the complete misery that will accompany this adventure will make it a "fun" adventure.
And being able to say I told you so has always made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Whatever happens I know Ill try to make the best of it and to help others when I can.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:27:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Anarchists have to be the stupidest people that can still breath unassisted.


They sure don't think things though all that thoroughly do they.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:28:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheBigStink:
Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
I think there are 3 types of "Survivalists"

Type I: Due to bad decisions at certain points in their lives, look forward to a major breakdown in society. They feel that once this happens, they will be able to assume their rightful place in society.

Type II: Normal overly materialistic Americans who buy ammo and Mountain house instead of the Top 10 must have gadgets of the new year. They are the "I Told You So's"

Type III: These folks hope and pray that all their ammased food, equipment and knowledge are all for naught, but prepare anyway because its the proper thing to do to ensure their families safety in the event of a major breakdown.



Knowing myself, I think all types are possible in one person.

I kinda like taking a nice warm shower everyday, having plenty to eat, and living in a safe neighborhood.
but I also love adventure although I don't think the complete misery that will accompany this adventure will make it a "fun" adventure.
And being able to say I told you so has always made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Whatever happens I know Ill try to make the best of it and to help others when I can.



I like all of the above things also. However, one thing I value is freedom. I want to be free to raise and educate my children in a way that I see fit. I want to worship as I believe God wants me to. I want to be able to protect myself and my family. I want to keep enough of what I earn to survive. I DO give to those who don't have anything, BUT, I want to decide who gets my aid.

Is any of that too much to ask? Am I hurting anyone? These are things that the majority of people living on earth cannot do. I'd trade the luxuries of life for a chance to have the freedom our anscestors in this country did.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:28:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 9:16:04 AM EST by Thom101]
lately I've realized I'm I'm 95% anarchist
why should I follow rules made by people that aren't me?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:54:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By agillig: I'd trade the luxuries of life for a chance to have the freedom our anscestors in this country did.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. If you want to trade luxuries for freedom, you're perfectly capable of doing so now. Move to the Alaskan interior. Hunt and grown your own food like Dick Proenneke. You won't earn income and won't pay income tax. You can be just as free as after the apocalypse today, if you really wanted to.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:58:51 AM EST
Anarchy is a purely theoretical state. Human societies will always organize themselves into some hierarchy.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:00:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By PBIR:
Maybe we could just get it in a few states. That would spice up vacation options.


Just go to detroit.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:02:29 AM EST
What sane man would lust for another Y2K???

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:14:00 AM EST
I'd like to see anarchy tried; if it didn't work out, I'm sure I could rustle up a new government with just a couple two three phone calls.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:14:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By Sockrotter:
I'd like to see anarchy tried;


Look at Somalia then.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:18:13 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:20:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 5:25:30 AM EST by Code_Slinger]
Originally Posted By ANGST:
After reading a bunch of threads here on subjects like TEOTWAWKI , various laws, or government involvement with anything. I am convinced that some of our members are actual anarchists ?

What do you think ?

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb265/anarchocapitalist/Product%20Images/AnarchyIMVUgroup.png


I haven't seen anyone calling for what I would consider anarchy, though I have seen a lot of pissed off, stressed out, fed up people who are desperate for change. Honestly more like a reset than just change. This nation is now nothing like it originally was and was designed to be. IMO, not only have we become the very thing our ancestors fought against and worked diligently to protect America from becoming, we're actually far worse. There are a lot of desperate people who want to stop the destruction of our nation and reset it back to what it was originally intended to be. Most of the people I've heard speaking out against various laws (especially unconstitutional ones), out of control taxing, borrowing and spending, ever growing and encroaching government, corruption, our welfare society, etc., seem to want nothing more than a return to what this nation was originally designed to be. I don't see that as anarchy, I see that as a desire for freedom and what's right.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:26:53 AM EST
I have no illusions about complete Anarchy in the USA, it would be hell on earth.

There needs to be some sort of government or at the very least a mutually agreed upon moral/social code.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:28:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 5:30:08 AM EST by Clockwork138]
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Anarchy is a purely theoretical state. Human societies will always organize themselves into some hierarchy.

Yep. It will always inevitably resort back to those who have ruling those who have not. Those who have weapons and food will make the rules.

I can't get that through the skulls of the "anarchist" I know.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:32:49 AM EST
You ever notice that all of these 19-22 year old skinny, emo-punk rocking little squeercrows who wear all the "A" (Anarchy) shirts....would be the first ones killed in a TRUE anarchy? Those who wish for it...wouldn't last minutes...that's the true irony here.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:48:00 AM EST
No anarchist here, just hoping that our voting in 2010 will be all the anarchy we need!!
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:52:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
I think there are 3 types of "Survivalists"

Type I: Due to bad decisions at certain points in their lives, look forward to a major breakdown in society. They feel that once this happens, they will be able to assume their rightful place in society.

Type II: Normal overly materialistic Americans who buy ammo and Mountain house instead of the Top 10 must have gadgets of the new year. They are the "I Told You So's"

Type III: These folks hope and pray that all their ammased food, equipment and knowledge are all for naught, but prepare anyway because its the proper thing to do to ensure their families safety in the event of a major breakdown.



Agreed. I think, at least in GD, the Type 1s might make up a high percentage. Those people would be hosed in an actual breakdown. You will not rise to the occasion. Your penchant for failure will be magnified and you will be food.

Have a nice day!

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:53:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By TrijiCog:
Just cubicle commandos blowing off some steam at work,instead of working.TEOTWAWKI to them is when the IT guy blocks certain websites and they are forced to do what they were paid to do,work.


+1

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:55:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 5:55:41 AM EST by roboman]
The vast majority of ARFCOM is a bunch of fat fuck couch commandos who rant and rave about the country going down the tubes and "voting from the rooftops". While doing so they do absolutely nothing to chance anything. The truth is, if the world actually did shit the bed, they'd be dead within 2 weeks and would spend that entire time soiling themselves and crying about the "good old days".
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:56:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By agillig:

Originally Posted By TrijiCog:
Just cubicle commandos blowing off some steam at work,instead of working.TEOTWAWKI to them is when the IT guy blocks certain websites and they are forced to do what they were paid to do,work.


Probably. But don't underestimate the rage a lot of people have pent up.


"rage"?

Haha...that's funny
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:57:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By roboman:
The vast majority of ARFCOM is a bunch of fat fuck couch commandos who rant and rave about the country going down the tubes and "voting from the rooftops". While doing so they do absolutely nothing to chance anything. The truth is, if the world actually did shit the bed, they'd be dead within 2 weeks and would spend that entire time soiling themselves and crying about the "good old days".


After reading many posts here, I am glad they are not doing anything
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:58:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By RED_5:
I think the majority want the constitutional republic we're supposed to have and are true to their convictions

anything less (or more) than the .gov we're supposed to have, by law, is unacceptable.



This is me...exactly.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:00:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:09:22 AM EST by Schadenfreuda]
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Anarchists have to be the stupidest people that can still breath unassisted.


Are you defending Fascists, Marxists, Communism, Socialism and Totalitarian/Authoritarian forms of government?

Every single [non troll] person on this board is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more aligned with being an Anarchist than anything else.

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Anarchy is a purely theoretical state. Human societies will always organize themselves into some hierarchy.


Ken is absolutely right...In fact, you can even go beyond that and say that most animal groups will form a hierarchy as well.

Sheesh, I would like to consider the founders of this nation to be "Above average" anarchists!

Originally Posted By roboman:
The vast majority of ARFCOM is a bunch of fat fuck couch commandos who rant and rave about the country going down the tubes and "voting from the rooftops". While doing so they do absolutely nothing to chance anything. The truth is, if the world actually did shit the bed, they'd be dead within 2 weeks and would spend that entire time soiling themselves and crying about the "good old days".


I don't know if I agree with this very much...We just saw 1.8 Million VERY pissed-off people risk a perfectly good Saturday in DC...and I did NOT know one single person in that crowd.

I would imagine that at least 1/3 of those people would be "3 percenters" ...and MOST of those folks were from the EAST Coast...and not usually known for "standing up for what is right".

(Apologies to all east coasters for the shame besmurched on you by the left)

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:01:38 AM EST
We have people here who are ready to fight or are right on the edge. It won't take much more to push many more over the edge. Our problem is public perception. We are all surrounded by sheeple who are led by the nose by a complicit media. Few of us will have the courage and determination to confront the overwhelming opposition to us. Now, if we could assemble in one state by the millions and surrounded by like minded Americans.....we'd still get slaughtered! And don't think for a second our overlords would hesitate a second to make Waco-like examples of us.

Remember - to the Pelosi crowd we are already Nazi-like, unpatriotic, AstroTurf radicals.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:02:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By Schadenfreuda:
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Anarchists have to be the stupidest people that can still breath unassisted.


Are you defending Fascists, Marxists, Communism, Socialism and Totalitarian/Authoritarian forms of government?

Every single [non troll] person on this board is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more aligned with being an Anarchist than anything else.


I'd say he sums up ARFCOM nicely.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:05:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By Schadenfreuda:
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Anarchists have to be the stupidest people that can still breath unassisted.


Are you defending Fascists, Marxists, Communism, Socialism and Totalitarian/Authoritarian forms of government?


At least people who follow those totalitarian forms of government KNOW they are advocating a totalitarian government. The ones advocating anarchy are too stupid to realize that anarchy lasts only a very short period of time before a totalitarian government takes over.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:09:22 AM EST

After all this time on this board I've conclusively determined the typical GD poster wants everyone to think he's a some sort of fire pissing muscle laden he-man with a 12" dick, has a trophy 3 hole wife, can bench press 400 pounds, lives in a 4000 square foot house, pulls down a 6 figure salary, and can kill with just a stern look...

Talk is the currency here, and just like our own Dollar, the currency on ARFcom is highly devalued. Anarchists? Nope, the truth is most are chubby little pussy whipped man-boys who wouldn't make it much past 1 week without their TV's, internet, comfortable bed and 3 squares a day with copious amounts of beer thrown in to help them survive their 'tough' lives...

Posers and big talkers...

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:10:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:13:19 AM EST by ORIGINAL-Waterdog]
Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
I think there are 3 types of "Survivalists"

Type I: Due to bad decisions at certain points in their lives, look forward to a major breakdown in society. They feel that once this happens, they will be able to assume their rightful place in society.

Type II: Normal overly materialistic Americans who buy ammo and Mountain house instead of the Top 10 must have gadgets of the new year. They are the "I Told You So's"

Type III: These folks hope and pray that all their ammased food, equipment and knowledge are all for naught, but prepare anyway because its the proper thing to do to ensure their families safety in the event of a major breakdown.

Type IV: Will be preying on the 1st 3 types. They can go without a bath for weeks, they are true woodsman, and can live in the sticks indefinately, they can shoot anything, they will eat anything or go without food for days at a time while hunting one of the above. They have the genetics, not neccessarily the most intelligent but very hardy makeup, from generations of family having to actually do physical work to provide for their families



If TSHTF, I suggest types 1 and 2 just kill yourselves.Type III, hide your daughters

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:18:27 AM EST
Originally Posted By echo_5:
I voted 'yes' since there are all types here.

We have Obama voters/criminals, young 'uns under 21, JBTs/ LEOs, cubicle/couch commandos, .mil vets, criminals, LEOs, ........


fixed it........
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:40:55 AM EST
I know an anarchist, but for some reason, he defines himself as a far left wing anarchist. I just loves what Obama is doing to America.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:51:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By Schadenfreuda:
Originally Posted By RED_5:
I think the majority want the constitutional republic we're supposed to have and are true to their convictions

anything less (or more) than the .gov we're supposed to have, by law, is unacceptable.



This is me...exactly.



amen friend... Just give me my constitutional republic back..... You know the one I read about in history books... before FDR..
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:57:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Anarchy is a purely theoretical state. Human societies will always organize themselves into some hierarchy.


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