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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, yep. Bought 1k in Sep last year and it was supposed to ship Nov..... then Dec....then Jan....now Feb. I am starting to have doubts it will ever ship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My 1k rounds of wolf was pushed back from Feb to April (sportsmans guide) Lol, yep. Bought 1k in Sep last year and it was supposed to ship Nov..... then Dec....then Jan....now Feb. I am starting to have doubts it will ever ship. Were you guys around for the great SG Wolf buy in the mid (+ or -) 2000's? 1000 rounds for $99. The big problem then was people were ordering many 1000's . SG cancelled a lot of orders stating something to the affect it was too much ammo for an order. I was lucky, didn't order too much for them to cancel me. Damn, still have some of it in stock. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm looking for primers and haven't found them for some time. Know a source? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was just wondering about the yearly production rates and where those numbers are today There are plenty of raw resources for component/ammunition production. Every month ammo production produces a consistent number, is there a graph for 2020? I'm looking for primers and haven't found them for some time. Know a source? The monthly production rates are still occurring, where is the ammo going? |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem with that mantra is people only recognize cheap when it has passed. When you've seen a constant decrease in price over a year, there's no reason to think it won't be even cheaper next month. Mantra needs to change. That mantra is a lie. It was never, "Buy cheap, stack deep". It was "Buy cheap, sell high". ARFCOMers treat ammo like stock. You buy it when you think it's cheap and wait to sell to some other poor schmuck when the price goes up. The problem is, people didn't buy cheap and sell high. They bought cheap and sold medium, because high is probably never going to come. Ammo prices only ever go up now. There's no ceiling, so you either keep what you got, or sell what you got and have nothing. RIP those poor bastards that sold at 2x the price they bought at only to see that ammo now costs 3x. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:01:16 PM EDT
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One of the LGS is stocked like the old days, anything you want. Most of it is sold on GB for whatever price people bid it up to. Penny auctions. They’ll be building a new building with the profits. Walk in locals pay pretty much normal price. I picked up a new gun a couple weeks ago and could have bought anything I wanted but just got reloading supplies since I didn’t need ammo.
Cabelas keeps sending sale emails but nothing is in stock. Useless. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:01:45 PM EDT
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Unless someone really needs the money they should keep all they have.
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:03:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Arfcom mantra has been repeated incessantly since I first started here: “Buy cheap, stack deep.” A lot of countries have a 100rd limit for civilian ownership. I figure the left will try to do the same here. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:04:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were you guys around for the great SG Wolf buy in the mid (+ or -) 2000's? 1000 rounds for $99. The big problem then was people were ordering many 1000's . SG cancelled a lot of orders stating something to the affect it was too much ammo for an order. I was lucky, didn't order too much for them to cancel me. Damn, still have some of it in stock. I am still shooting Turkish 8MM , If I remember right it was 70 dollars for 1400 rounds . Comes on brass stripper clip and green bandoleers. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:07:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is that there's nothing to panic buy anymore. I'm not disputing that it's being manufactured, but it seems to not be reaching the retailers. Where's it going? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Both sides are panic buying like never before, for good reason. The problem is that there's nothing to panic buy anymore. I'm not disputing that it's being manufactured, but it seems to not be reaching the retailers. Where's it going? it is hitting retailers....ppl are buying it as soon as it hits the stores online and off. You can find it online if you want to pay .85 plus a round for 5.56 or 2.25 for 6.5 Creedmoor |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:08:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm also looking and can't find a thing. The monthly production rates are still occurring, where is the ammo going? I think it's being farmed out in dribs and drabs. It's being spread thin among all distributors. Two weeks ago I just missed a couple of cases of Federal .223. Two ladies snapped it up as soon as the clerk put it on the shelf. I think that store only got those two cases, and hasn't got any since. It's like having to spread a small shipment of toilet paper among all the Walmarts. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:10:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question to all that have been buying ammo....What about current firearms availability in your AO? I haven't been in a gun store in months, but how has firearms availability changed in the last week or so? I mean standard PSA style AR rifles, Glock 17/19, etc? If so, what are prices on those now on new rifles? Generic AR's are up about $100 at LGS, and they don't go on sale anymore at Rural King so I guess you could say about the same for them. Price hasn't shifted as much on handguns. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:13:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plot twist, all resources are gone, covid and gov locked it all down. Whats left is what's mined and stored. Civil War coming and gov gonna ban ammo  Interestingly enough, I know the former County Sheriff whose son is still a County Sheriff in one of the largest counties in Florida. He says that they are restricting training severely because of the lack of ammo. Even the sheriff's department can't get it. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:15:16 PM EDT
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This is all I got... majority of the .556 was bought at .30 a round back in 2019... I know it pales in comparison to what some of you guys got stockpiles but it’s enough to protect my family and I know better next time
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am still shooting Turkish 8MM , If I remember right it was 70 dollars for 1400 rounds . Comes on brass stripper clip and green bandoleers. Yep, I still have maybe 7 bandoliers left....I got them from SOG, (Southern Ohio Gun), for $5 per bandolier....I think each bandolier has 70 rounds on strippers. HOT ammo too. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:19:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are the mfgs unable to get components because they are made in China? How does one make a primer? "Mercury(II) fulminate, or Hg(CNO)2, is a primary explosive. It is highly sensitive to friction, heat and shock and is mainly used as a trigger for other explosives in percussion caps and detonators. First used as a priming composition in small copper caps beginning in the 1820s, mercury fulminate quickly replaced flints as a means to ignite black powder charges in muzzle-loading firearms. Later, during the late 19th century and most of the 20th century, mercury fulminate or potassium chlorate became widely used in primers for self-contained rifle and pistol ammunition. Mercury fulminate has the distinct advantage over potassium chlorate of being non-corrosive, but it is known to weaken with time, by decomposing into its constituent elements. The reduced mercury which results forms amalgams with cartridge brass, weakening it, as well. Today, mercury fulminate has been replaced in primers by more efficient chemical substances. These are non-corrosive, less toxic and more stable over time; they include lead azide, lead styphnate and tetrazene derivatives. In addition, none of these compounds require mercury for manufacture, supplies of which can be unreliable in wartime. Mercury(II) fulminate is prepared by dissolving mercury in nitric acid and adding ethanol to the solution. It was first prepared by Edward Charles Howard in 1800" |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:25:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know where I can get some cheap 9mm? I don't really want to pay more than .20/rd. 
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:30:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of countries have a 100rd limit for civilian ownership. I figure the left will try to do the same here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Arfcom mantra has been repeated incessantly since I first started here: “Buy cheap, stack deep.” A lot of countries have a 100rd limit for civilian ownership. I figure the left will try to do the same here. I expect they will attempt to pass a Federal version of the California law: requires anyone who purchases ammunition to undergo a background check, at a cost of $1, with every purchase. Those who don’t already have their information in the Department of Justice’s system for these point-of-sale screenings will have to pay up to $20 for an initial screening. The law also requires that all ammo purchases take place in person. Even online orders must be delivered to a licensed vendor for customer pick-up. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:38:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:42:29 PM EDT
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I found a bunch of 9mm at a local GS this past weekend.
Only issue.... $800 for 1000 rds. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:43:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know where I can get some cheap 9mm? I don't really want to pay more than .20/rd. 
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:45:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the Dems have their way, I predict they will put most of the ammo makers out of business and restrict most of it for police and gov. thugs. That might wake the fudds up |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:46:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, yep. Bought 1k in Sep last year and it was supposed to ship Nov..... then Dec....then Jan....now Feb. I am starting to have doubts it will ever ship. Your probably not going to get that because the Democrats will be banning imported ammo in the next few wks IMO. ?? |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:48:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know where I can get some cheap 9mm? I don't really want to pay more than .20/rd. I have some at that price, but I am stuck in Canada. Send me.......... . . . . . . . I, I can't do it. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:48:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know where I can get some cheap 9mm? I don't really want to pay more than .20/rd.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:49:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, yep. Bought 1k in Sep last year and it was supposed to ship Nov..... then Dec....then Jan....now Feb. I am starting to have doubts it will ever ship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My 1k rounds of wolf was pushed back from Feb to April (sportsmans guide) Lol, yep. Bought 1k in Sep last year and it was supposed to ship Nov..... then Dec....then Jan....now Feb. I am starting to have doubts it will ever ship. You need to document your backorder renewal. I had 5 cases on order years ago, kept renewing the backorder, but , surprise, surprise, when the price kept going up and up they said I did not renew the backorder. Poof, order cancelled. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both sides are panic buying like never before, for good reason. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know where I can get some cheap 9mm? I don't really want to pay more than .20/rd. Last I checked December 2019 had some. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:54:03 PM EDT
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You don't need more than a box of ammo a year to shoot a deer. What are you, a white nationalist terrorist?!
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm also looking and can't find a thing. The monthly production rates are still occurring, where is the ammo going? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was just wondering about the yearly production rates and where those numbers are today There are plenty of raw resources for component/ammunition production. Every month ammo production produces a consistent number, is there a graph for 2020? I'm looking for primers and haven't found them for some time. Know a source? The monthly production rates are still occurring, where is the ammo going? Biden and the Democrats are probably buying it all....... What’s really weird is ammo like .32-20 and other uncommon calibers are difficult if not impossible to find....... as well as 8 round enbloc clips for Garands |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:01:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the LGS is stocked like the old days, anything you want. Most of it is sold on GB for whatever price people bid it up to. Penny auctions. They'll be building a new building with the profits. Walk in locals pay pretty much normal price. I picked up a new gun a couple weeks ago and could have bought anything I wanted but just got reloading supplies since I didn't need ammo. Cabelas keeps sending sale emails but nothing is in stock. Useless. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:03:08 PM EDT
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Prices haven’t hit the point yet to encourage people to sell some of their stashes. If/when that happens, you’ll see some more ammo out there for sale.
My position has been consistent on my own stash. When i can sell .223/5.56 for over $1 per round consistently, after shipping, gunbroker fees, my fuel and costs to get it done, I’ll be interested in selling some. Same with 9mm. Neither have reached that level. Sure, some stuff has gone for over $1 per round on gunbroker, but they take a chunk in fees, the shipping costs a bunch, and there’s the incidental stuff. It’s hard to keep it over $1. It used to be easier with Armslist, but now they charge as well. As for retail, yeah, stuff IS available. It’s just not available at prices people want to pay. I know where you can get cases locally if 9mm for $700-800. At the moment, that’s normal. What people want is $150-250 cases; that’s not going to happen for a LONG time. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:08:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither have reached that level. Sure, some stuff has gone for over $1 per round on gunbroker, but they take a chunk in fees, the shipping costs a bunch, and there’s the incidental stuff. It’s hard to keep it over $1. It used to be easier with Armslist, but now they charge as well. As for retail, yeah, stuff IS available. It’s just not available at prices people want to pay. I know where you can get cases locally if 9mm for $700-800. At the moment, that’s normal. What people want is $150-250 cases; that’s not going to happen for a LONG time. Use UPS flat rate. It will save quite a bit in shipping costs. I wasn’t aware flat rate was a thing with UPS until 6 months ago roughly. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:10:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden and the Democrats are probably buying it all....... What’s really weird is ammo like .32-20 and other uncommon calibers are difficult if not impossible to find....... as well as 8 round enbloc clips for Garands I bought a Krag 30-40. All I have is one 20 round box for it. Almost every place online is out of it I found one place that was 50 something dollars a box. I think it's going to be just a wall hanger for the foreseeable future. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:10:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I'm starting to regret having sold all of mine. Doesn't look like the opportunity to replenish is going to come cheap.  A lot of people thought they would get rich and replenish after the elections and it would be cheap again. I was tempted but why sell something I have that I will want later without knowing what the market would do was my thinking. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:15:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Use UPS flat rate. It will save quite a bit in shipping costs. I wasn’t aware flat rate was a thing with UPS until 6 months ago roughly. I didn’t either. Interesting. Are there no restrictions on flat rate stuff? I would have thought ORD-M (I know it’s not characterized as that anymore) might be a restricted/special class of product that would exclude it. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:16:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was always a known risk. I kept a good 10k in reserve for personal use. Put quite a bit of the gain from my ammo fort into nice guns I wanted. Ammo is still available if you really need it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like the "big money" flippers got fucked by trying to make a few hundred dollars in the short term. Too shortsighted in their part. This was always a known risk. I kept a good 10k in reserve for personal use. Put quite a bit of the gain from my ammo fort into nice guns I wanted. Ammo is still available if you really need it. Ditto. Bought a Benelli M4. No regrets. Still have a plentiful ammo stash. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:18:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Mercury(II) fulminate, or Hg(CNO)2, is a primary explosive. It is highly sensitive to friction, heat and shock and is mainly used as a trigger for other explosives in percussion caps and detonators. First used as a priming composition in small copper caps beginning in the 1820s, mercury fulminate quickly replaced flints as a means to ignite black powder charges in muzzle-loading firearms. Later, during the late 19th century and most of the 20th century, mercury fulminate or potassium chlorate became widely used in primers for self-contained rifle and pistol ammunition. Mercury fulminate has the distinct advantage over potassium chlorate of being non-corrosive, but it is known to weaken with time, by decomposing into its constituent elements. The reduced mercury which results forms amalgams with cartridge brass, weakening it, as well. Today, mercury fulminate has been replaced in primers by more efficient chemical substances. These are non-corrosive, less toxic and more stable over time; they include lead azide, lead styphnate and tetrazene derivatives. In addition, none of these compounds require mercury for manufacture, supplies of which can be unreliable in wartime. Mercury(II) fulminate is prepared by dissolving mercury in nitric acid and adding ethanol to the solution. It was first prepared by Edward Charles Howard in 1800" It will also blow the living shit out of a laundry room. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:18:33 PM EDT
[#37]
Nevermind. I can't read!
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:20:45 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That might wake the fudds up Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If the Dems have their way, I predict they will put most of the ammo makers out of business and restrict most of it for police and gov. thugs. That might wake the fudds up No, it won't. They'll be on the trains headed to the camps still talking about how you don't need nothun but a box of thirdy-thirdy. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a Krag 30-40. All I have is one 20 round box for it. Almost every place online is out of it I found one place that was 50 something dollars a box. I think it's going to be just a wall hanger for the foreseeable future. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Biden and the Democrats are probably buying it all....... What’s really weird is ammo like .32-20 and other uncommon calibers are difficult if not impossible to find....... as well as 8 round enbloc clips for Garands I bought a Krag 30-40. All I have is one 20 round box for it. Almost every place online is out of it I found one place that was 50 something dollars a box. I think it's going to be just a wall hanger for the foreseeable future. I have been looking for a Krag, and was going to get one from the CMP, but I don’t think they have ammo for them and it’s not available anywhere...... might wait for awhile |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:22:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, sadly you are correct. I can't begin to explain the feeling of uneasiness I'm experiencing right now living without any guns or ammo. Simply did not see any of this coming. I'm decently skilled with a bo staff but that isn't going to get me very far when things really start to pop off. I've got a wiffleball bat & a heavy duty grilling spatula, I think I'll be OK |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:26:41 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, sadly you are correct. I can't begin to explain the feeling of uneasiness I'm experiencing right now living without any guns or ammo. Simply did not see any of this coming. I'm decently skilled with a bo staff but that isn't going to get me very far when things really start to pop off. Uh...yeah. Me too... I...also...sold ALL of my ammo -- and guns -- recently. ALL. OF. IT. Shucks...didn't see this coming. Anyone have a revolver I could buy? |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:34:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Last night one could buy 7.62x:39 for $400 plus shipping. Commie guns are fun to shoot also, but many tossed them in the trash. So there’s that.
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:35:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah I'm starting to regret having sold all of mine. Doesn't look like the opportunity to replenish is going to come cheap. https://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/10/Disappointed-Terrible-Awful-OMG-Embarassed-Embarassing-WTF-GIF.gif In this thread, we discover that capitalism requires some measure of intelligence. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:35:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh...yeah. Me too... I...also...sold ALL of my ammo -- and guns -- recently. ALL. OF. IT. Shucks...didn't see this coming. Anyone have a revolver I could buy? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, sadly you are correct. I can't begin to explain the feeling of uneasiness I'm experiencing right now living without any guns or ammo. Simply did not see any of this coming. I'm decently skilled with a bo staff but that isn't going to get me very far when things really start to pop off. Uh...yeah. Me too... I...also...sold ALL of my ammo -- and guns -- recently. ALL. OF. IT. Shucks...didn't see this coming. Anyone have a revolver I could buy? You guys had guns? this is an airsoft cooking forum. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:35:50 PM EDT
[#45]
Walmart here hasn't had even a single shotgun shell for 3 weeks.
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:36:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I'm more worried about ever finding another bottle of Blanton's again. Eagle Rare seems to be going that way too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We were warned to buy during the salad days. Shame on you if you didn't. This. I'm more worried about ever finding another bottle of Blanton's again. Eagle Rare seems to be going that way too. Traded some 855 for this a few days ago ?? 
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:42:37 PM EDT
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I just picked up 2 boxes of 338 win mag for the low cost of $135. Not too bad, only $3.37 per round.
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:43:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got notice last night that a bunch of Wolf X39 I backordered in November is being delivered this week. FedEx guy ain't gonna be happy. The 4 pay plan helps to ease the pain. Still got a bunch of stuff on B/O at Optics Planet I'll probably never see. At least Sportsman's Guide has always come thru for me on their backorders. It's always crazy to get those backorders shipped in and have the current value of the items be 2.5X what I bought it for a couple months back. Better than gold.....unfortunately. Yeah, I made a mistake not ordering late last fall when some members here listed the ability to backorder at SG x39 Wolf, at a good standard price. I guess I didn't think they'd honor the price when it came in. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Screenshot I took yesterday. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/407952/22ammo_jpg-1777451.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:46:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I made a mistake not ordering late last fall when some members here listed the ability to backorder at SG x39 Wolf, at a good standard price. I guess I didn't think they'd honor the price when it came in. I've got some backorders with them for ammo. They went from November delivery, to December, to January to September
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