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Posted: 9/6/2019 9:00:46 AM EDT
Unions have been on slowdowns to force a contract settlement. There has been an federal injunction on the unions since June. It has tied AA in knots.

I’m sure it’s good for the company and job security.

Also, the mechanic is possibly involved in a snackbar

https://www.apnews.com/6f03105ca6ff4a36bb728626802565eb
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:04:43 AM EDT
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Unions
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:08:02 AM EDT
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Sabotage of an airplane. What could go wrong?
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:09:12 AM EDT
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150+ counts of attempted murder
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:12:57 AM EDT
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You guys didnt catch his name?

Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:13:28 AM EDT
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There’s more to this than labor dispute

According to news reports
Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani has been charged with "willfully damaging, destroying, disabling, or wrecking an aircraft, and attempting to do so," according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:16:38 AM EDT
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Back when coal miners were being sent into dust filled tunnels and the mining company also owned the only grocery store in town, forming unions was the only recourse they had.

When steel workers connecting I beams on a high rise needed fall protection and the company complained it was too expensive, workers forming a picket line served a purpose.

Now unions have become bloated entities that serve no purpose.  We have labor laws, we have minimum wages, anti-trust laws, and worker safety laws.  Everything the unions were originally formed for has been achieved, so what's left for them now?
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:18:22 AM EDT
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According to news reports
Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani has been charged with "willfully damaging, destroying, disabling, or wrecking an aircraft, and attempting to do so," according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court.
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 Wanting overtime was the central motivation according to the article.

And yes, he is a snackbar.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:21:14 AM EDT
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Everything the unions were originally formed for has been achieved, so what's left for them now?
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Funneling dues to democrat politicians.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:23:13 AM EDT
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Back when coal miners were being sent into dust filled tunnels and the mining company also owned the only grocery store in town, forming unions was the only recourse they had.

When steel workers connecting I beams on a high rise needed fall protection and the company complained it was too expensive, workers forming a picket line served a purpose.

Now unions have become bloated entities that serve no purpose.  We have labor laws, we have minimum wages, anti-trust laws, and worker safety laws.  Everything the unions were originally formed for has been achieved, so what's left for them now?
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whats always the ultimate goal .... power ... and that power can come in many, many, different forms
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 9:24:18 AM EDT
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Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 10:25:17 AM EDT
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Back when coal miners were being sent into dust filled tunnels and the mining company also owned the only grocery store in town, forming unions was the only recourse they had.

When steel workers connecting I beams on a high rise needed fall protection and the company complained it was too expensive, workers forming a picket line served a purpose.

Now unions have become bloated entities that serve no purpose.  We have labor laws, we have minimum wages, anti-trust laws, and worker safety laws.  Everything the unions were originally formed for has been achieved, so what's left for them now?
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Unions still have other important tasks:

  1. Funneling dues money back to the Democrat National Convention.
  2. Fighting for the money to support union leaders with the costs incurred buying big houses and fancy cars.
  3. It costs a lot to keep the Teacher's Union filled with hacks and stupid people.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 10:43:57 AM EDT
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No way this was done over a contract dispute.  This was a snackbar doing snackbar shit.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 10:44:20 AM EDT
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Terrorist/Attempted murder/Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani

All in one.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 10:52:50 AM EDT
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I doubt it. The nature of this fuckery held a very slim chance of leading to a hull loss or loss of life. It was designed to trigger a caution/warning message resulting in a gate return and more hours of bullshit wrench turning when the fix was simple and known.

If he wanted full on snackbar then he could've done much more serious and nefarious shit that could've resulted in an actual crash.

This guy is a moron and is about to be bent over bigly.

Eta: and there goes another post whore milestone.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 10:57:30 AM EDT
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OP Florida is right to work state, no unions.

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Link Posted: 9/6/2019 11:07:06 AM EDT
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Ya job accident that can kill almost 200 people
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Right to work does not mean no unions. It means that an employee cannot be compelled to join a union - unless the company agrees with the union that a condition of employment with the company in designated jobs is union membership.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 1:25:27 PM EDT
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Did he steal a name or two from Prince?
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 1:27:19 PM EDT
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I doubt it. The nature of this fuckery held a very slim chance of leading to a hull loss or loss of life. It was designed to trigger a caution/warning message resulting in a gate return and more hours of bullshit wrench turning when the fix was simple and known.

If he wanted full on snackbar then he could've done much more serious and nefarious shit that could've resulted in an actual crash.

This guy is a moron and is about to be bent over bigly.

Eta: and there goes another post whore milestone.
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No way this was done over a contract dispute.  This was a snackbar doing snackbar shit.
I doubt it. The nature of this fuckery held a very slim chance of leading to a hull loss or loss of life. It was designed to trigger a caution/warning message resulting in a gate return and more hours of bullshit wrench turning when the fix was simple and known.

If he wanted full on snackbar then he could've done much more serious and nefarious shit that could've resulted in an actual crash.

This guy is a moron and is about to be bent over bigly.

Eta: and there goes another post whore milestone.
Throw him in a cell and throw away the key.  No place for this bullshit in the A&P profession.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 1:45:07 PM EDT
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I doubt it. The nature of this fuckery held a very slim chance of leading to a hull loss or loss of life. It was designed to trigger a caution/warning message resulting in a gate return and more hours of bullshit wrench turning when the fix was simple and known.

If he wanted full on snackbar then he could've done much more serious and nefarious shit that could've resulted in an actual crash.

This guy is a moron and is about to be bent over bigly.

Eta: and there goes another post whore milestone.
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No way this was done over a contract dispute.  This was a snackbar doing snackbar shit.
I doubt it. The nature of this fuckery held a very slim chance of leading to a hull loss or loss of life. It was designed to trigger a caution/warning message resulting in a gate return and more hours of bullshit wrench turning when the fix was simple and known.

If he wanted full on snackbar then he could've done much more serious and nefarious shit that could've resulted in an actual crash.

This guy is a moron and is about to be bent over bigly.

Eta: and there goes another post whore milestone.
Hey, at least you said something useful for post # 13000...
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 1:58:37 PM EDT
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Throw him in a cell and throw away the key.  No place for this bullshit in the A&P profession.
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A few coworkers were discussing seeing more snack bars as A&P's and rampers. It's only a matter of time.

A guy that worked in our hangar had been trying to get on with Delta for awhile now. He said he was going to file suit against them for discrimination against Muslims.  A few of us told him his background check is probably the reason. He was on probation for an altercation he had with someone and pulled a pistol on him.

He was a shit bird of the highest order. Always doing the absolute minimum. Claiming discrimination if he was told to change a tire or brake on one of the aircraft.

We were all so happy he left for somewhere else.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 2:31:48 PM EDT
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I doubt it. The nature of this fuckery held a very slim chance of leading to a hull loss or loss of life. It was designed to trigger a caution/warning message resulting in a gate return and more hours of bullshit wrench turning when the fix was simple and known.

If he wanted full on snackbar then he could've done much more serious and nefarious shit that could've resulted in an actual crash.

This guy is a moron and is about to be bent over bigly.

Eta: and there goes another post whore milestone.
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Probing the defenses and warning systems.  Determining reactions both public, corporate, and government.  Using the guise of a disgruntled union worker as a defense.  The enemy wants us dead, don't forget that.

Is there a "See I told you so gif"?
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 2:35:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/6/2019 6:08:30 PM EDT
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Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani
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Just caught a story on this on local news. They had the TERRORIST'S name in tiny letters, but never once spoke his name.

Life w/o parole.

No quarter in deliberately fvcking with an airplane. None. RoP or not. Throw away the key.

Criminal complaint

https://www.scribd.com/document/424728961/Abdul-Majeed-Marouf-Ahmed-Alani-criminal-complaint
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 6:30:16 PM EDT
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I did.  I'm sure it's that he was just hoping for some overtime.
Link Posted: 9/6/2019 11:48:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/6/2019 11:56:16 PM EDT
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Not this time.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 12:08:01 AM EDT
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Irony....

He's an organized labor terrorist, not a Muslim extremist terrorist.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 12:19:47 AM EDT
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Unions still have other important tasks:

  1. Funneling dues money back to the Democrat National Convention.
  2. Fighting for the money to support union leaders with the costs incurred buying big houses and fancy cars.
  3. It costs a lot to keep the Teacher's Union filled with hacks and stupid people.
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I’m somewhat ok with certain types of skilled labor unions in aviation for pilots and mechanics. If there weren’t regulations for duty hours (and how do you think those came about?), the airlines would work pilots harder than Amazon fulfillment workers.

Ask anyone who’s flown twins for freight operators how flying is without a union.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 12:22:41 AM EDT
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We are union in Florida.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 12:27:47 AM EDT
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Doesn't that translate to: snackbar wants to kill all non snackbar?
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 12:34:12 AM EDT
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Someone have to squeeze the little man, I mean we will fight to get you a .25 increase and well next year dues will go up by $12 a week.

Protip - .25 raise is $10 on a 40 hour workweek, and that is before taxes.  $10 raise minus $12 dues increase = $2 less a week.  How is that for getting fucked?  Oh and you owe taxes on the raise so it is even less money in your pocket.  But we till take that up at the next collective bargaining, ye got your back, that way we can keep you still while we fuck you real good.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 1:32:57 AM EDT
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We used to have a flight attendant that was finally caught sabotaging aircraft. Dude wasn't doing it because he was disgruntled though. He had "hero syndrome". He'd break and steal shit so he could report it as broken or missing on his pre-flight inspection and get the 'ol attaboy from everyone. He did it so much they finally took a brand new aircraft and had the mechanics go over it with a fine tooth comb and every checklist imaginable to make sure it was perfect. Then they tugged it to the gate for this guy's next flight. Sure enough he broke a couple of seals on a PBE and a med kit and stole a co2 cartridge out of a water extinguisher to report it missing. He was told that he could go on home. FBI arrested him there later that day.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 1:56:07 AM EDT
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Not true.
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We used to have a flight attendant that was finally caught sabotaging aircraft. Dude wasn't doing it because he was disgruntled though. He had "hero syndrome". He'd break and steal shit so he could report it as broken or missing on his pre-flight inspection and get the 'ol attaboy from everyone. He did it so much they finally took a brand new aircraft and had the mechanics go over it with a fine tooth comb and every checklist imaginable to make sure it was perfect. Then they tugged it to the gate for this guy's next flight. Sure enough he broke a couple of seals on a PBE and a med kit and stole a co2 cartridge out of a water extinguisher to report it missing. He was told that he could go on home. FBI arrested him there later that day.
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Just think about all the Delta Reward points he racked up!
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 2:03:20 AM EDT
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We used to have a flight attendant that was finally caught sabotaging aircraft. Dude wasn't doing it because he was disgruntled though. He had "hero syndrome". He'd break and steal shit so he could report it as broken or missing on his pre-flight inspection and get the 'ol attaboy from everyone. He did it so much they finally took a brand new aircraft and had the mechanics go over it with a fine tooth comb and every checklist imaginable to make sure it was perfect. Then they tugged it to the gate for this guy's next flight. Sure enough he broke a couple of seals on a PBE and a med kit and stole a co2 cartridge out of a water extinguisher to report it missing. He was told that he could go on home. FBI arrested him there later that day.
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WTF?
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 2:12:24 AM EDT
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I’m calling bullshit . I’m gonna say overtime had nothing to do with it .
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 2:24:31 AM EDT
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Attachment Attached File


Just sayin'.....
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I’m somewhat ok with certain types of skilled labor unions in aviation for pilots and mechanics. If there weren’t regulations for duty hours (and how do you think those came about?), the airlines would work pilots harder than Amazon fulfillment workers.

Ask anyone who’s flown twins for freight operators how flying is without a union.
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I flew a heavy trijet without a union, it blows lol.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 2:30:32 AM EDT
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Fine, you can wait until the sealant dries tomorrow. Enjoy your airport snacks.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 2:31:01 AM EDT
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TSA and airlines have cameras everywhere at airports, and especially at terminals.

This snackbar was a real genius.
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No way this was done over a contract dispute.  This was a snackbar doing snackbar shit.
I doubt it. The nature of this fuckery held a very slim chance of leading to a hull loss or loss of life. It was designed to trigger a caution/warning message resulting in a gate return and more hours of bullshit wrench turning when the fix was simple and known.

If he wanted full on snackbar then he could've done much more serious and nefarious shit that could've resulted in an actual crash.

This guy is a moron and is about to be bent over bigly.

Eta: and there goes another post whore milestone.
Hey, at least you said something useful for post # 13000...
Yep. Solid post.
Link Posted: 9/7/2019 5:53:21 AM EDT
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I did.  I'm sure it's that he was just hoping for some overtime.
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Link Posted: 9/7/2019 5:58:29 AM EDT
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OP Florida is right to work state, no unions.

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Airline employees fall under the Railway Labor Act, and since American maintenance is union, everyone is forced to be union regardless of if they're stationed in a right to work state.
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He’s been with the airline since 1988.
I’m sure they gave his background a cavity search after 9/11.
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Airline employees fall under the Railway Labor Act, and since American maintenance is union, everyone is forced to be union regardless of if they're stationed in a right to work state.
.  I’m pretty sure nobody is forced to be union.
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He’s been with the airline since 1988.
I’m sure they gave his background a cavity search after 9/11.
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He’s been with the airline since 1988.
I’m sure they gave his background a cavity search after 9/11.
LoL, yeah, logically, you would think.
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Um hmm. Hug your PM! Enjoy your diversity.
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Um hmm. Hug your PM! Enjoy your diversity.
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He’s been with the airline since 1988.
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Um hmm. Hug your PM! Enjoy your diversity.
Says the guy from California
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