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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:04:05 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama.
One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? And remember... replace Obama with Bush for all the scandals which have broke since he has been in office and it would be a very different reaction by the libs. It's okay when it's their guy, though. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:07:16 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:11:00 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:17:18 AM EDT
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Rush just stated what many of us have said since this regime gained power. Obama is not the genius architect but the front man of the larger force that has been incrementally taking up position in the institutions of our culture and government for a generation.
There are those who are the unwitting pawns but fit well into progressive scheme and there are those who are the drivers of this coup. They learned back in the '50's and 60's that direct violence was counterproductive in this society and have taken the slower incremental approach of sawing away at the underpinnings of our American Republic and its institutional structure. What Rush finally identified is the wide band of movement by "true believers" who when placed into positions of authority will act according to their beliefs without the need for direct oversight. They will do what they organically are, so to speak. What we have is a fascist coup underway. Nothing less than a total take over of all federal government, the elimination of any means to counteract it and the complete usurpation of all the components of power in our society - the control and dispersal of information, control and access to all wealth and assets, complete access to all information on each individual and the means to control all interaction with and to direct all activities of the subjects under their control. Once the military aparatus is purged of leadership that is not on-board with the fascist government, then EVERY means of control will be in their hands - life, health, wealth, death. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:18:12 AM EDT
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No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. Some say 1913 under Woodrow Wilson. The creation of income tax allowed for government to grow. Before that it was limited to customs tax. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:20:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. But it was only a dream. The Patriot Act made it real. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:21:22 AM EDT
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More accurate to say that we're in the midst of a democratic subversion campaign.
It's the classic way Leftists gain power - get their foot in the door through some semi-legitimate democratic process, then turn the system against itself to entrench themselves, undermine their opposition and expand their power. It's what they did in Russia and tried to do in Spain and Chile. Coups are usually what nations have to do to short-circuit the process of subversion. What the Chileans did to stop Allende is the classic example of this. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:22:02 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? And remember... replace Obama with Bush for all the scandals which have broke since he has been in office and it would be a very different reaction by the libs. It's okay when it's their guy, though. And when it was Bush the Rs thought it was fine and the libs were in an uproar. Same shit different day. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:22:24 AM EDT
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When I read the headline I thought Rush was describing the coordinated leaks of corruption and total information awareness. The coup I was expecting was to defend the Constitution, not subvert it.
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:26:34 AM EDT
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:27:34 AM EDT
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Thought-provoking.
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:29:36 AM EDT
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Forget the left-right paradigm. That's misleading as it's not a lefty thing here either. Both parties have contributed to this mess. It's a facist thing.
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:39:40 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? And remember... replace Obama with Bush for all the scandals which have broke since he has been in office and it would be a very different reaction by the libs. It's okay when it's their guy, though. And when it was Bush the Rs thought it was fine and the libs were in an uproar. Same shit different day. True, but the media handles Obama differently than they would have handled Bush. For many Americans, if it is not on tv then they are not aware of it. Our reality is spoon fed to us through the media. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:44:17 AM EDT
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Trying to get it all in place before the free money shuts off.
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:52:17 AM EDT
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Trying to get it all in place before the free money shuts off. And take guns out of the hands of citizens. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 5:53:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream reality since the 70's. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:13:32 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. Echelon came to light during the Clinton years. It grew out of the Cold War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON The program enabled the US to eavesdrop every international telephone call. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:15:08 AM EDT
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"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Republican Party?"
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:25:27 AM EDT
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It makes sense that what we have been seeing is a highly calculated and planned coup. It was not readily apparent but now that we are seeing the pieces fall into place it is quite clear. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....... http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/06/07/america_in_the_midst_of_a_coup_d_etat Shoot. Move. Communicate. BHO is working on a checklist. Next is "papers please"...but gotta get amnesty for the new Dem voters first. The time to FO may have already passed. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:28:54 AM EDT
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It makes sense that what we have been seeing is a highly calculated and planned coup. It was not readily apparent but now that we are seeing the pieces fall into place it is quite clear. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....... http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/06/07/america_in_the_midst_of_a_coup_d_etat Shoot. Move. Communicate. BHO is working on a checklist. Next is "papers please"...but gotta get amnesty for the new Dem voters first. The time to FO may have already passed. I dont think it has passed, its is a different paradigm, the battle space is still being defined. This time it wont be a shot across Concord Green, or Federal troops invading Virginia, this will be an information war fought in cyber space and its already started. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:30:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:30:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: It makes sense that what we have been seeing is a highly calculated and planned coup. It was not readily apparent but now that we are seeing the pieces fall into place it is quite clear. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....... http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/06/07/america_in_the_midst_of_a_coup_d_etat Shoot. Move. Communicate. BHO is working on a checklist. Next is "papers please"...but gotta get amnesty for the new Dem voters first. The time to FO may have already passed. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:32:36 AM EDT
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It makes sense that what we have been seeing is a highly calculated and planned coup. It was not readily apparent but now that we are seeing the pieces fall into place it is quite clear. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....... http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/06/07/america_in_the_midst_of_a_coup_d_etat Shoot. Move. Communicate. BHO is working on a checklist. Next is "papers please"...but gotta get amnesty for the new Dem voters first. The time to FO may have already passed. I dont think it has passed, its is a different paradigm, the battle space is still being defined. This time it wont be a shot across Concord Green, or Federal troops invading Virginia, this will be an information war fought in cyber space and its already started. So, you're saying that we are as obsolete as a battleship at Pearl Harbor and our attack wing of fighters is on the carrier USS Anonymous? |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:34:52 AM EDT
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No. The coup will happen when they push us too far and enough Americans wake up. It's coming though. They will over-reach and wake the giant...
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:38:01 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. Echelon came to light during the Clinton years. It grew out of the Cold War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON The program enabled the US to eavesdrop every international telephone call. Thanks, couldn't remember the name. Echelon dates back to the 60's! I was off by a decade. Quoted:
Yes, it was called Echelon. Democrats be shitting their pants if they knew Clinton started it before Bush. You're thinking of the infamous Carnivore, which started in 1997 |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:42:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. It started with the FBI and CIA. Remember the communist witch hunt? |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:44:16 AM EDT
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Just here to get on the list
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:44:35 AM EDT
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It's been discussed here many, many times, and it's Great that someone like Rush finally declares it to start a debate on the reality of this Administration.
*Next step will be for him and others to join in declaring/defining the Acts of Treason committed by OUR Political Pimps.  Liberty or Death; Freedom or 'Security'; Free Will or Slavery  |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:44:51 AM EDT
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Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995, US Senate bills S.390 and S.761. [1] Senator Joe Biden introduced the bill on behalf of the Clinton Administration on Feb. 10, 1995.[2] [3] The bill was co sponsored by Senators Alfonse D'Amato, Dianne Feinstein, Robert J. Kerrey, Herb Kohl, Jon Kyl, Barbara A. Mikulski and Arlen Specter. [4] Representative Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill (H.R. 896) in the US House of Representatives. [3] Following closely on the heels of Executive Order 12947, prohibiting transactions with terrorists, President Clinton described the bill as a "comprehensive effort to strengthen the ability of the United States to deter terrorist acts and punish those who aid or abet any international terrorist activity in the United States" and requested "the prompt and favorable consideration of this legislative proposal by the Congress". [5]
Step by step theyve played chess while the American public was playing hopscotch. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:45:37 AM EDT
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It's been put on Fast Forward
Live Free or Die |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:48:25 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. It started with the FBI and CIA. Remember the communist witch hunt? Do you remember that McCarthy was right? The opening of the Soviet Achieves shows that many of them really were commie agents and stooges. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:49:36 AM EDT
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Just here to get on the list You did that four years and 3524 posts ago.
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:50:27 AM EDT
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It's been put on Fast Forward Live Free or Die Dibs on the maple syrup stocks. 
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:51:26 AM EDT
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sad part is NOTHING will change/happen. Holder, FBHO, Etc. will all stay in office and continue this path because the majority of americans are too stupid and uninformed to really care. The lamestream media will do nothing but help.
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:52:00 AM EDT
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Rush just stated what many of us have said since this regime gained power. Obama is not the genius architect but the front man of the larger force that has been incrementally taking up position in the institutions of our culture and government for a generation. There are those who are the unwitting pawns but fit well into progressive scheme and there are those who are the drivers of this coup. They learned back in the '50's and 60's that direct violence was counterproductive in this society and have taken the slower incremental approach of sawing away at the underpinnings of our American Republic and its institutional structure. What Rush finally identified is the wide band of movement by "true believers" who when placed into positions of authority will act according to their beliefs without the need for direct oversight. They will do what they organically are, so to speak. What we have is a fascist coup underway. Nothing less than a total take over of all federal government, the elimination of any means to counteract it and the complete usurpation of all the components of power in our society - the control and dispersal of information, control and access to all wealth and assets, complete access to all information on each individual and the means to control all interaction with and to direct all activities of the subjects under their control. Once the military aparatus is purged of leadership that is not on-board with the fascist government, then EVERY means of control will be in their hands - life, health, wealth, death. Yep. There are willing participants in the most important places. The voting apparatus, the schools, the unions, the regulation agencies, the media, financial institutions, state and local govt officials, and lately, the higher ups in the military and intel agencies... all doing the bidding. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:52:44 AM EDT
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It makes sense that what we have been seeing is a highly calculated and planned coup. It was not readily apparent but now that we are seeing the pieces fall into place it is quite clear. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....... http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/06/07/america_in_the_midst_of_a_coup_d_etat Shoot. Move. Communicate. BHO is working on a checklist. Next is "papers please"...but gotta get amnesty for the new Dem voters first. The time to FO may have already passed. I dont think it has passed, its is a different paradigm, the battle space is still being defined. This time it wont be a shot across Concord Green, or Federal troops invading Virginia, this will be an information war fought in cyber space and its already started. Already started? Heck, I think it is about over. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:55:20 AM EDT
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I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. This shit goes further back than that. Today got its start in the Woodrow Wilson era. We really are one nation, under surveillance. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:57:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: Don't loose focus debating an irrelevant argument...What can WE do today to better OUR tomorrow? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? This. it started with the patriot act. No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. It started with the FBI and CIA. Remember the communist witch hunt? What will each Citizen do? WE have the right to an Opinion, but this Administration's actions have proven they believe WE don't.  There's no debating that argument, so focus on that Point, especially, with others that just had a reality check. WE either give up or get motivated; Stay Motivated & Productive! OUR Basic Laws aren't corrupt...the People enforcing them are; That's All that matters right now. I hope WE can find that Common Voice.  |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:57:33 AM EDT
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This shit goes further back than that. Today got its start in the Woodrow Wilson era. We really are one nation, under surveillance. Wilson was our first Fascist POTUS, before it was even big in Europe. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 6:59:48 AM EDT
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Rush just stated what many of us have said since this regime gained power. Obama is not the genius architect but the front man of the larger force that has been incrementally taking up position in the institutions of our culture and government for a generation. There are those who are the unwitting pawns but fit well into progressive scheme and there are those who are the drivers of this coup. They learned back in the '50's and 60's that direct violence was counterproductive in this society and have taken the slower incremental approach of sawing away at the underpinnings of our American Republic and its institutional structure. What Rush finally identified is the wide band of movement by "true believers" who when placed into positions of authority will act according to their beliefs without the need for direct oversight. They will do what they organically are, so to speak. What we have is a fascist coup underway. Nothing less than a total take over of all federal government, the elimination of any means to counteract it and the complete usurpation of all the components of power in our society - the control and dispersal of information, control and access to all wealth and assets, complete access to all information on each individual and the means to control all interaction with and to direct all activities of the subjects under their control. Once the military aparatus is purged of leadership that is not on-board with the fascist government, then EVERY means of control will be in their hands - life, health, wealth, death. This post nails it. Jonah Goldberg's book Liberal Fascism predicted it. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:00:06 AM EDT
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Didn't dear leader tell us he was going to fundamentally change America? Those same liberals and lefties that speak so highly of freedom will be the ones who desire to control everything we do or believe in...................the whole lot are no better than Communists
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:03:22 AM EDT
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Didn't dear leader tell us he was going to fundamentally change America? Those same liberals and lefties that speak so highly of freedom will be the ones who desire to control everything we do or believe in...................the whole lot are no better than Communists Read Alinsky and other Radical's books. They are Communists and they are on the Long March through our institutions seeking to destroy Individual Liberty and replace it with " Positive, Collective " rights. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:14:26 AM EDT
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I have..............I know they are commies, but the ones who enable them are no better than they are..................the FSA, the Liberal minded people like my wife's cousin who thinks the sun rises and sets in Barry's glory..............
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Didn't dear leader tell us he was going to fundamentally change America? Those same liberals and lefties that speak so highly of freedom will be the ones who desire to control everything we do or believe in...................the whole lot are no better than Communists Read Alinsky and other Radical's books. They are Communists and they are on the Long March through our institutions seeking to destroy Individual Liberty and replace it with " Positive, Collective " rights. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:18:06 AM EDT
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To people who keep thinking that these issues are just THIS administration.
Please wake up. Both sides have been eroding our rights. Team R and D are the SAME TEAM, and WE are on the other team. We have to stop being divided or we will assuredly fail. Although I believe most on this site are slowly realizing this. The ones that are hardest to convince are the Dems, but even they are slowly realizing it as well. I have had success with bringing both sides to the realization that this government is not for us. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:20:32 AM EDT
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To people who keep thinking that these issues are just THIS administration. Please wake up. Both sides have been eroding our rights. Team R and D are the SAME TEAM, and WE are on the other team. We have to stop being divided or we will assuredly fail. Although I believe most on this site are slowly realizing this. The ones that are hardest to convince are the Dems, but even they are slowly realizing it as well. I have had success with bringing both sides to the realization that this government is not for us. That's because we've forgotten Reagan's lesson that there isn't only a Left and Right, but also a Up and Down. Up to Individual Liberty and Down to Authoritarian Control. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:24:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I think this has been happening since before Obama. One nation under surveillance. It was inevitable was it not? And remember... replace Obama with Bush for all the scandals which have broke since he has been in office and it would be a very different reaction by the libs. It's okay when it's their guy, though. And when it was Bush the Rs thought it was fine and the libs were in an uproar. Same shit different day. Left and Right hands of the same body. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:25:26 AM EDT
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That's because we've forgotten Reagan's lesson that there isn't only a Left and Right, but also a Up and Down. Up to Individual Liberty and Down to Authoritarian Control. The truth! |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:25:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: No it didn't. This shit started during the Clinton years. 9/11 was just an excuse to kick it into high gear. The total surveillance society has been an elitist dream since the 70's. Some say 1913 under Woodrow Wilson. The creation of income tax allowed for government to grow. Before that it was limited to customs tax. I'd dial it back to the Whiskey Tax in 1791. |
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:26:19 AM EDT
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In on 1
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:27:46 AM EDT
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not going to happen.
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