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TX, USA
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Says Vox Day.
Adios ideology. Hola identity politics. Adios USA. Hola Nation of California. Adios Neocons. Hola Nationalism. Adios Establishment. Hola Populist. It doesn't matter whether you are a libertarian, a conservative, a liberal, a progressive, or a constitutionalist. Your ideology is outdated and irrelevant. http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/02/there-is-no-us.html Interesting |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:36:53 PM EDT
LOL, VOX
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:42:10 PM EDT
Actually, we're simply going to stack the leftist bodies like cord wood.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:42:46 PM EDT
zan reads voxday? Whoa I better sit down for this one
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:44:52 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Actually, we're simply going to stack the leftist bodies like cord wood. Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:47:36 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:50:41 PM EDT
TL;DR... but balkanization is likely, if not inevitable at some point.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:50:54 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Aimless:
zan reads voxday? Whoa I better sit down for this one 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:52:51 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Aimless:
zan reads voxday? Whoa I better sit down for this one Penguin gonna Penguin 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:53:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zan:
Says Vox Day. Adios ideology. Hola identity politics. Adios USA. Hola Nation of California. Adios Neocons. Hola Nationalism. Adios Establishment. Hola Populist. It doesn't matter whether you are a libertarian, a conservative, a liberal, a progressive, or a constitutionalist. Your ideology is outdated and irrelevant. Interesting 
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:53:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2017 1:54:08 PM EDT by Mal_means_bad]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:53:47 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By BB:
LOL, VOX |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:54:35 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Aimless:
zan reads voxday? Whoa I better sit down for this one Are you kidding? He mentions it all the time. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:55:25 PM EDT
The South (Mehico) will rise again?!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:56:42 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By FALFOX:
TL;DR... but balkanization is likely, if not inevitable at some point. I am in Seattle right now for work. I look around at these people, and I honestly feel like I have absolutely NOTHING in common with them. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:57:11 PM EDT
#VeryFakeNews
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UT, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:58:17 PM EDT
The left thinks there are more leftist extremists than there actually are.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:58:17 PM EDT
OMGWTFCIVILWARTHREADBBQ
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:58:28 PM EDT
If YOU are not paying attention everything is obsolete.
1.by 2030 the entire us infrastructure will have to be rebuilt to cater to auto driving cars. 2. cloning, stem-cells, and new medical sytems will increase life expectancy to over 100 for nearly all Americans. 3. robots have been taking human jobs since the 60's by 2030 what jobs will be left? If pt 2 is correct when do we stop bringing in immigrants for menial jobs? I have never been a fan of claiming "this war will be short " but with HACKING, hyper sonic cruise missals, beam weapons & space based weapons the next big war could be over in hours.
with all the above a reality NOW OR in about 12 years, of course politics must change. we are facing a massive sea change in our daily lives the 1930's legacy socialist programs must be torn down and replaced with something that reflects 120 year lifespans, and maybe 10%human employment. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 1:58:57 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By f402mech:
The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. This. U.S. won't give up its pacific coast. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:00:13 PM EDT
What everyone leaves out about Balkanization is the fact that most parts of the Balkan region are really nice these days....
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:00:28 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By FALFOX:
TL;DR... but balkanization is likely, if not inevitable at some point. We're already balkanized in every way that's meaningful. Name one policy that the state government of California wants to implement (or avoid) that's being forced on them (successfully) by either their people or the FedGov. Just one. Gay marriage? The people of CA voted against it. CA got it anyhow. Healthcare? It's in a huge fucking wreck. CA is still giving free shit to illegals left and right. Gun control? CA just ignores the law/Constitution at whim. Drugs? CA decided it wanted legal weed. It just did it, and we let them. The FedGov has not used force against CA, and it's not going to. The people of CA have not voted out their government, and they're not going to. The government of the state of CA is a spoiled rich brat that gets to do everything it wants. What are they even upset about? They're mad at people voicing their displeasure. Junior goes out on a coke-fueled weekend bender on daddy's yacht, and when Aunt Sue sees him the next week and she tells him that's probably not healthy for him, he throws a fuckin tantrum, calls her a racist, and threatens to leave the family. These are actions of brats. They're not gonna leave, and they're not gonna change. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:01:08 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By SD307:
If YOU are not paying attention everything is obsolete. 1.by 2030 the entire us infrastructure will have to be rebuilt to cater to auto driving cars. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:02:48 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By SD307:
3. robots have been taking human jobs since the 60's by 2030 what jobs will be left? |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:03:07 PM EDT
Well yeah. America will split apart by celestial interference causing the left coast to sink, the Mississipi to widen to an inland sea, and the east coast to also drop into the ocean. Also Florida will be under water.
That should lower the liberal population. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:03:13 PM EDT
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:03:37 PM EDT
Of course we're gunna split, we have zero national identity!! We let everyone in without thinking about the lessons of history, like Rome etc.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:07:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2017 2:08:08 PM EDT by runcible]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALFOX:
TL;DR... but balkanization is likely, if not inevitable at some point. This. When one side says, "I'll live how I want to live, and you live how you want to live," and the other side says, "I want you to be my slave and pay my bills," where are you supposed to go from there? Sooner or later (historically speaking, not next week), the Left and the Right in the U.S. are going to have to have it out, once and for all. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:07:19 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. Before there was Brexit.......there was Mexit! 
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:11:38 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By f402mech:
The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By f402mech:
Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Yep. There are no legal provisions for the secession of any state (including you-know-who). https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White "Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede." |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:12:01 PM EDT
It's not a geographical split like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War. It's a rural/urban split. Any future conflict would resemble the French Revolution moreso than anything else.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:12:48 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By happycynic:
It's not a geographical split like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War. It's a rural/urban split. Any future conflict would resemble the French Revolution moreso than anything else. What about Bosnia? |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:14:05 PM EDT
Get off mah propertai!
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:14:07 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
What about Bosnia? |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:16:30 PM EDT
The leftys haven't thought this one through yet.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:17:00 PM EDT
No it wont.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:18:47 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
What about Bosnia? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By happycynic:
It's not a geographical split like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War. It's a rural/urban split. Any future conflict would resemble the French Revolution moreso than anything else. What about Bosnia? The Bosnians had Bill Clinton's libido to keep them from getting wiped out.... who's coming to the rescue if the US goes tits-up? |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:20:36 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
The leftys haven't thought this one through yet.
http://i0.wp.com/metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/election-2016-county-map.png |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:22:00 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By f402mech:
The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By f402mech:
Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Depends. If the fedgov offered California peaceful secession contingent on a) a county-by-county vote and b) making it very clear that no other state would be offered the same deal, you'd lose LA and probably Long Beach and Oakland but would still have San Diego, Portland, Seattle, and Tacoma (and Anchorage) on the Pacific coast. The real reason TPTB would never let it happen is that they need those EVs in California to hold power. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:22:09 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
The Bosnians had Bill Clinton's libido to keep them from getting wiped out.... who's coming to the rescue if the US goes tits-up? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeltaElite777:
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By happycynic:
It's not a geographical split like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War. It's a rural/urban split. Any future conflict would resemble the French Revolution moreso than anything else. What about Bosnia? The Bosnians had Bill Clinton's libido to keep them from getting wiped out.... who's coming to the rescue if the US goes tits-up? I don't know. I was just wondering if a potential conflict might look more like Bosnia than the French Revolution. It was an honest question...I don't think I know enough about either of those conflicts or our current situation to say. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:23:55 PM EDT
I'd like to see rural California stay with the US and the cities secede.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:24:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2017 2:29:41 PM EDT by 96Ag]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Yep. There are no legal provisions for the secession of any state (including you-know-who). https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White "Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By f402mech:
Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Yep. There are no legal provisions for the secession of any state (including you-know-who). https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White "Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede." Until they do. There's just the little issue of force of arms and maintaining that independence. And to clarify, I am not willing to go and shoot Californians who want to be their own country. Likewise, I am unwilling to send young men in the armed services to force them to stay either. If they decide to go, then they go. No handouts, foreign aid, no Social Security to those who stay and no free water from the Colorado. It will have to be done by treaty. They can apply for readmission at any time with the caveat that anyone in public office for the last 50 years is forever excluded from the government upon readmission. And they have to have a state level balanced budget amendment that is forever inviolable. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:26:52 PM EDT
Been a long time coming. That New Madrid is gonna kill us all!!!!
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2017 2:29:19 PM EDT by IAMLEGEND]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 96Ag:
Until they do. There's just the little issue of force of arms and maintaining that independence. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 96Ag:
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By f402mech:
Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Yep. There are no legal provisions for the secession of any state (including you-know-who). https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White "Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede." Until they do. There's just the little issue of force of arms and maintaining that independence. That's fine but then we're talking about something different that this academic bullshit we're hearing from some in California so far. ETA: I'm just saying it's not like some state is going to have a vote then say, ok, we're leaving...let's divvy up the loot and go our separate ways. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:30:20 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
The leftys haven't thought this one through yet.
http://i0.wp.com/metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/election-2016-county-map.png I'd be an insurgent. 
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:30:25 PM EDT
I left Los Angeles 20 years ago because I had nothing in common with the people, couldn't stand having 80% of my salary going to housing, Illegals pouring out of every nook and cranny and the Legislation getting more and more restrictive. I can only imagine what it's like now.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:31:03 PM EDT
Years from now they will write "And from the ashes of America rose Kekistan, ruled by the mysterious Cult of Pepe."
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:31:27 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:31:42 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's fine but then we're talking about something different that this academic bullshit we're hearing from some in California so far. ETA: I'm just saying it's not like some state is going to have a vote then say, ok, we're leaving...let's divvy up the loot and go our separate ways. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By 96Ag:
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By f402mech:
Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Yep. There are no legal provisions for the secession of any state (including you-know-who). https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White "Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede." Until they do. There's just the little issue of force of arms and maintaining that independence. That's fine but then we're talking about something different that this academic bullshit we're hearing from some in California so far. ETA: I'm just saying it's not like some state is going to have a vote then say, ok, we're leaving...let's divvy up the loot and go our separate ways. 100% true. If not for the fact it has the potential to destroy the Republic and forever alter the course of human events and global power structure, it would be kind of neat to see how it played out from an academic standpoint. 
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:34:20 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By 96Ag:
100% true. If not for the fact it has the potential to destroy the Republic and forever alter the course of human events and global power structure, it would be kind of neat to see how it played out from an academic standpoint. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 96Ag:
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By 96Ag:
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
Originally Posted By f402mech:
Originally Posted By Zan:
Not happening, but I can see CA voting for a "Brexit", though I don't see the ruling class allowing it to happen. The US government will never let go of the port of LA. The left can whine and gnash the teeth all they want, but nothing is going to happen. Yep. There are no legal provisions for the secession of any state (including you-know-who). https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White "Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede." Until they do. There's just the little issue of force of arms and maintaining that independence. That's fine but then we're talking about something different that this academic bullshit we're hearing from some in California so far. ETA: I'm just saying it's not like some state is going to have a vote then say, ok, we're leaving...let's divvy up the loot and go our separate ways. 100% true. If not for the fact it has the potential to destroy the Republic and forever alter the course of human events and global power structure, it would be kind of neat to see how it played out from an academic standpoint. Yeah but because of those things it's weird and scary. A lot of people in this country are really, really not handling not getting their way for once very well. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:34:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2017 2:38:17 PM EDT by waterglass]
It should have never been forced together in the first place.
States should regulate themselves. This has only become an issue since the feds have started usurping states rights, mostly with supreme court activism. |
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