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Posted: 9/4/2005 11:25:40 PM EDT
5 people killed by police, after they opened fire on a convoy of levee workers.

This story has been reported by several dozen major news sources, but nobody is offering any explanation for why the contractors - unarmed, and a threat to no one - were attacked.

Where is the media's fabled penchant for thorough, in-depth investigative reporting?
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:29:26 PM EDT
If you're talking about the guys fired on while on the bridge, I believe the answer you seek is:

NOPD opened fire and killed them...thus the "why" is never to be known, or important i suppose.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:38:04 PM EDT
heres a link
MY guess the thugs do not want the city fixed they will loose their playground


www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9208195/
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:38:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 11:38:38 PM EDT by migradog]

Originally Posted By Skibane:
5 people killed by police, after they opened fire on a convoy of levee workers.

This story has been reported by several dozen major news sources, but nobody is offering any explanation for why the contractors - unarmed, and a threat to no one - were attacked.

Where is the media's fabled penchant for thorough, in-depth investigative reporting?




Does it really matter why the contractors were attacked?

The bad guys got their tickets punched and the world is a little bit better off tonite.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:46:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 11:49:10 PM EDT by Moof]

Originally Posted By Skibane:
5 people insurgents killed by police, after they opened fire on a convoy of levee workers.



There's your answer.

ETA: In a couple more days, look for them to be referred to as freedom fighters.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:10:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By migradog:
Does it really matter why the contractors were attacked?



Yes, it does. As reported, this story doesn't make sense - Why would a group of people want to ambush a convoy under police escort? How would they have even known who they were ambushing?

These contractors couldn't have done anything that would have improved conditions in the city for many weeks, so the theory about thugs not wanting to lose their playground doesn't make sense, either.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:13:22 AM EDT
why would they roll over ambulances and shoot at rescue helicopters too....
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:15:40 AM EDT
Thugs don't use reasoning. You are trying to put rational thinking into this deal and it does not belong.

They are simply THUGS.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:17:56 AM EDT
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:18:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:18:24 AM EDT
Why were military helicopters fired on?
Why was a fire station attacked?
Why was a police precinct "sieged"?
Why did people refuse to leave after an evacuation order?
Why do people loot?

What was your question again?
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:25:29 AM EDT
I read somewhere that a gang of thugs had taken to robbing folks who tried to cross the bridge.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:25:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:27:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story



Nice try, but you are 1 update behind.............Fox News Story
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:29:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 7:30:11 AM EDT by rkbar15]
I would not get my panties in a wad over any initial media reports coming out of NO or anywhere else. All initial reports of any incident are inaccurate to some degree including in some cases complete BS with no basis in fact.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:32:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story



Nice try, but you are 1 update behind.............Fox News Story



I would normally just respond with, "Sorry, sometimes I'm an idiot", but it seems that your Fox News story is also from last night. The story I linked is dated TODAY.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:32:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story



Nice try, but you are 1 update behind.............Fox News Story



did you check the timestamps on the stories? looks like the one from the hearld sun is the latest.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:35:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 7:35:34 AM EDT by david_g17]

Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story



Nice try, but you are 1 update behind.............Fox News Story



+1 he was half right. the initial reports were wrong, but it was the initial reports saying they were contractors.

All major news networks have now confirmed it was BG's, and even the Army Corps of Engineers has stated that all of their ppl are uninjured.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:37:24 AM EDT
As for a reason, weren't some gangs trying to take over parts of the city?
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:37:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Thugs don't use reasoning. You are trying to put rational thinking into this deal and it does not belong.

They are simply THUGS.



They are simply doing what thugs do everyday in their communities. Without the normal constraints of LE to keep them under control they are just more bold about it. This is what the liberal fucktards with their heads of their asses don't understand.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:38:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By david_g17:

Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story



Nice try, but you are 1 update behind.............Fox News Story



+1 he was half right. the initial reports were wrong, but it was the initial reports saying they were contractors.

All major news networks have now confirmed it was BG's, and even the Army Corps of Engineers has stated that all of their ppl are uninjured.



Link a story and I shall stand corrected. I actually hope what you say is true. I'd hate to think the NOPD guys are so stressed that they'd smoke a bunch of civilian contractors.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:45:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 7:45:27 AM EDT by rkbar15]
I heard on the news this morning that only two were killed, two were injured and 1 was captured. Who knows what really happened at this point.


Violence mars rescue
05/09/2005 06:51 - (SA)

New Orleans - Police shot and killed at least five people on Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors travelling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.

Deputy Police Chief WJ Riley said police shot at eight people carrying guns, killing five or six.

Fourteen contractors were travelling across the Danziger Bridge under police escort when they came under fire, said John Hall, a spokesperson for the Army Corps of Engineers.

They were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help plug the breech in the 17th Street Canal, Hall said.

None of the contractors was injured, Mike Rogers, a disaster relief coordinator with the Army Corps of Engineers, told reporters in Baton Rouge.

The bridge spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

No other details were immediately available.

www.news24.com/News24/World/Hurricane_Katrina/0,,2-10-1942_1765151,00.html
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:02:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:
I heard on the news this morning that only two were killed, two were injured and 1 was captured. Who knows what really happened at this point.



Send him to Gitmo!
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:19:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 8:26:35 AM EDT by migradog]

Originally Posted By Skibane:
Ambush on NOLA contractor convoy, for no apparent reason - What is missing from this story? Was your headline based on fact? or just your suspicions?

Originally Posted By migradog:
Does it really matter why the contractors were attacked?



Yes, it does. As reported, this story doesn't make sense - Why would a group of people want to ambush a convoy under police escort? How would they have even known who they were ambushing?They probably didn't know who they were ambushing. Why did they fire on helocopters, rescue workers and the police?

These contractors couldn't have done anything that would have improved conditions in the city for many weeks, so the theory about thugs not wanting to lose their playground doesn't make sense, either.The contractors were on their way to do work on the levees. Whether it would take days or weeks is irrelevant.



So while it make not make sense to you, it does to many other of us who have followed the story

Kudo's out to the NOPD for a job well done!!!!
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:28:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Skibane:
5 people killed by police, after they opened fire on a convoy of levee workers.

This story has been reported by several dozen major news sources, but nobody is offering any explanation for why the contractors - unarmed, and a threat to no one - were attacked.

Where is the media's fabled penchant for thorough, in-depth investigative reporting?



Gee, no reason????????? These gangbanging punks have been shooting at rescue personnel for a week and you are wondering what their "reason" is. Sheesh.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:30:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Skibane:

Originally Posted By migradog:
Does it really matter why the contractors were attacked?



Yes, it does. As reported, this story doesn't make sense - Why would a group of people want to ambush a convoy under police escort? How would they have even known who they were ambushing?

These contractors couldn't have done anything that would have improved conditions in the city for many weeks, so the theory about thugs not wanting to lose their playground doesn't make sense, either.



Give it a rest already. Just be glad that the cops are starting to shoot back, finally!

What exactly are you insinuating?
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:32:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story



Nice try, but you are 1 update behind.............Fox News Story



He relied on MSNBC, who will do their best to make cops/military look as bad as possible.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:34:55 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:35:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:
I heard on the news this morning that only two were killed, two were injured and 1 was captured. Who knows what really happened at this point.


Violence mars rescue
05/09/2005 06:51 - (SA)

New Orleans - Police shot and killed at least five people on Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors travelling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.

Deputy Police Chief WJ Riley said police shot at eight people carrying guns, killing five or six.

Fourteen contractors were travelling across the Danziger Bridge under police escort when they came under fire, said John Hall, a spokesperson for the Army Corps of Engineers.

They were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help plug the breech in the 17th Street Canal, Hall said.

None of the contractors was injured, Mike Rogers, a disaster relief coordinator with the Army Corps of Engineers, told reporters in Baton Rouge.

The bridge spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

No other details were immediately available.

www.news24.com/News24/World/Hurricane_Katrina/0,,2-10-1942_1765151,00.html



I love that headline, only it's not the only time it has happened. Thugs shooting at rescue personnel has slowed things down from the first day.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:40:12 AM EDT
Only two killed out of five hit?

They must have been using M-4s past 120m.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:45:04 AM EDT
They're keeping it quite because the perp were Muslim Terrorists, Al-Queda. They're afraid to stoke the fires of discontent on the American Streets. The truth will come out.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:47:39 AM EDT
Deport these thugs to Somalia, if they like it so much see how long they last there.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 9:35:38 AM EDT
About time.

Sounds like the thugs got ambushed.

I would like to hear the details behind this one.

Link Posted: 9/5/2005 9:38:55 AM EDT
... Regardless of who's at fault or who fired on who first, the whole frickin' story is fishy and full of holes

... However, conditions are perfect for a cover-up. I expect we will be forced to swallow some "official version"

Link Posted: 9/5/2005 9:41:00 AM EDT
The thugs do not want anyone in the city that has communications and can report their activities, they are not done looting yet.

Link Posted: 9/5/2005 9:41:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KnobCreek:
They're keeping it quite because the perp were Muslim Terrorists, Al-Queda. They're afraid to stoke the fires of discontent on the American Streets. The truth will come out.



Did you hear this somewhere, or pull this out of your a$$ - just curious.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 9:46:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 9:53:02 AM EDT by Painter]
Is it written incorrectly? The Herald Sun is saying that:
-----------------------------------
Five dead were army workers: report

05sep05

Associated Press reports that at least five people shot dead by police as they walked across a New Orleans bridge yesterday were contractors working for the US Defence department.

A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal. The contractors were on their way across the bridge to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to fix the 17th Street Canal, according to the spokesman.

-----------------------------------

Maybe just a poorly written piece, or I am not reading it correctly, BUT it seems that this article is saying that the men that were shot and killed were DOD contractors.

Is it possible that NOPD opened fire on them, because they were armed?
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 10:02:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 10:23:09 AM EDT by rkbar15]
The next thing that will be reported is that it was Girl Scouts selling cookies that were shot on the bridge.

Give it a break already. There was a time when the media didn't release anything until they actually had some facts to backup their stories. Now they just release anything to play the ratings game.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 10:12:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 11:36:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 11:41:59 AM EDT by longshot556]

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Thugs don't use reasoning. You are trying to put rational thinking into this deal and it does not belong.

They are simply THUGS.



Logic has nothing to do with it, where thugs are concerned. If we could figure out thier mindset, we could get rid of crime all together.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 3:16:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Painter:
Is it written incorrectly? The Herald Sun is saying that:
-----------------------------------
Five dead were army workers: report

05sep05

Associated Press reports that at least five people shot dead by police as they walked across a New Orleans bridge yesterday were contractors working for the US Defence department.

A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal. The contractors were on their way across the bridge to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to fix the 17th Street Canal, according to the spokesman.

-----------------------------------

Maybe just a poorly written piece, or I am not reading it correctly, BUT it seems that this article is saying that the men that were shot and killed were DOD contractors.

Is it possible that NOPD opened fire on them, because they were armed?




... WTF?
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 3:25:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:

Originally Posted By KnobCreek:
They're keeping it quite because the perp were Muslim Terrorists, Al-Queda. They're afraid to stoke the fires of discontent on the American Streets. The truth will come out.



Did you hear this somewhere, or pull this out of your a$$ - just curious.



Sorry, JK. Just screwing around. I clearly chose the wrong icon at the end to express my mood. There a lot of misinfo going around and I would never intend to add to the that. Sorry to all.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:11:54 PM EDT
The reason the vermin shot at those contractors and helos and
ambulances, etc, is because they are trying to get back at The Man.
The good guys represent "The Man" that holds tha brothas down.
So they lash out at the rescue workers because they are simply
The Man.
This is their chance to finally get back at them.

Revenge.

Never mind that those thugs AREN'T brothas, they are shit,
but they like to believe that.
In the mean time, they try to score a plasma tv and some Nikes.

Simple minds.
Simple psychology.

If this offends, you, go back to putting your head in the sand.
This is the reality of it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:19:51 PM EDT
Just a guess but I bet this story got confused when someone heard "Army contractors" and thought they heard "armed contractors" then the story went to shit when they tried to make sense of who fired on who and why. They should have realized the story was not making sense but the way it was printed made authorities (police) look inept so they ran with it. Dumb .....
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:23:34 PM EDT
My only complaint is that more looters haven't been killed yet. sorry, i'm a little bloodthirsty today.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:31:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 4:32:33 PM EDT by Mauser101]
tag
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:33:28 PM EDT
I'm still waiting for..., the rest of the story.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:53:55 PM EDT
Someone called in to an NPR talk show this afternoon, claiming that he was one of the contractors in the ambush. He said that he heard several rounds go under his truck, at which point the police escort returned fire. He didn't offer any reason for why they were ambushed.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:58:26 PM EDT
Try and keep up people....................... Initial reports WERE contractors were shot and killed. The CORRECTED story is that contractors were fired on, LEO's returned fire.....................
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:59:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:

Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

Originally Posted By Garage-Logician:
The answer is, the initial reports are wrong...as usual. The police shot and killed five DoD contractors, not five thugs. The MSNBC story was from last night.

Updated story



Nice try, but you are 1 update behind.............Fox News Story



I would normally just respond with, "Sorry, sometimes I'm an idiot", but it seems that your Fox News story is also from last night. The story I linked is dated TODAY.



Dated today in AUSTRALIA... What's the time diff???

And BTW, we don't know the repute of that news outlet, since it's in AU...

Sounds like they got their facts crossed:

'Cops shoot BGs who shot at Contractors' becomes 'Cops shoot Contractors'...
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 5:12:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 5:16:25 PM EDT by sharky30]
I'd post a certain game parody pic that features a wheelbarrow and 2 guys, but it got trashed last time I did

edit: meaning there is no "why" other than thugs causing random chaos, like in the game
wonder how many stars they got
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