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Posted: 12/23/2005 7:05:29 PM EDT
As I am sitting here.. on the night before Christmas eve drinkin a Malt. I've gone into a deep thinking stage, watch out.

My luck in the dating realm sucks shit.

I either attract psychos... or losers.

And all the decent girls I like, are either in relationships, or not willing to get into relationships because of prior issues with guys. (They're like the psychos.. but the psychos date just for the sake of dating, with no intention of getting into a relationship).

I just had to drop a girl that I dated for a month, but was only willing to take it dead slow. I mean, we hadn't even kissed once since we started dating. She has major "trust issues", and she wants to take it slow. (Her sister told me her last guy f-ed her up badly)

I feel sorry for her, but, thats her problem.. right? I shouldn't go around trying to fix girls I want to date, I want a already bandaged up woman.


I don't consider myself a bad looking guy. Atleast, so I've been told. I shower, shave (well, every other day) and my favorite wear is t-shirts and jeans.

The only thing that I can see, is I tend to take things more seriously then most people my age. (20) I take commitments, promises etc. very seriously. Maybe a lot of girls at my age don't like that... and they "LJBF" zone me. I love to kid around, and joke around... but, I tend to be more down to earth than a lot of other people my age. I take work and school very seriously, and it has served me well.

I don't take bullshit from myself, or others. I will IGNORE high maintence girls for that reason, as they drive me up the wall with constant just stupid ass conversations. I love a girl that can carry on a conversation on a intelligent topic... not some wild ass bullshit. I am actually turned on by smart women (espically witty ones), not dumb ones.

I tend to be more straightforward and honest (most of the time.. I still have a "wall" that prevents me from opening up), and if I am not teasing people, I am very respectful.

I am the guy that all the women in their 40s+ go "If I was XX years younger, I'd marry you!"

Thats nice.... but, that doesn't help me now.


Maybe its me, I dunno. I am gonna pop open another beverage.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:08:18 PM EDT
[#1]
How do you fell about sucking ****, I think you might be gay.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:12:46 PM EDT
[#2]
"LJBF" zone???

Is this a girl thing?
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:15:00 PM EDT
[#3]
You and me both bro.  I'm 24.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:17:01 PM EDT
[#4]
whats your question, Romeo?
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:18:16 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
How do you fell about sucking ****, I think you might be gay.



Uh, why?
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:18:49 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
"LJBF" zone???

Is this a girl thing?



Never heard of that term?

Lets just be friends?
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:19:56 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
whats your question, Romeo?



It was probably more of a statement than a question.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 7:56:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:24:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Geez! If I had my 20's to live over again, I'd be hiking the Grand Canyon, Utah, Colorado - heading to Ireland...not worrying about hooking up with a chickie snack (well, a guy snack for me...)

Enjoy life as much as you can. Do the things you love to do, and maybe you will meet someone who loves to do the same things. If you rush into getting together with someone - you may grow out of the relationship if you don't get all the rest of the things you'd like to accomplish out of the way first.

Focus on yourself for a while and you'll find that the confidence you gain from that alone might just bring you someone special!


ETA: Plus you are in NJ. There are a huge amounts of other states you need to live in before you can give up on girls. When all else fails, increase your sample size!!!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:28:59 PM EDT
[#10]

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Geez! If I had my 20's to live over again, I'd be hiking the Grand Canyon, Utah, Colorado - heading to Ireland...not worrying about hooking up with a chickie snack (well, a guy snack for me...)

Enjoy life as much as you can. Do the things you love to do, and maybe you will meet someone who loves to do the same things. If you rush into getting together with someone - you may grow out of the relationship if you don't get all the rest of the things you'd like to accomplish out of the way first.

Focus on yourself for a while and you'll find that the confidence you gain from that alone might just bring you someone special!




I've been too Ireland, three times already. Awesome place.

I've been focusing on myself for a good two years... I am in the mode of liking to get into a relationship with someone.

I still do all the things I love, I'd just like to experience having a relationship again.. as my last one ended on a bad note.

But, thats just me!

Edit: I agree with everything you said... I still continue to do things I want, I just always keep my eye out for someone of interest.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:20:42 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm with Zig and SP1grrl...don't try so hard! Hun...you are YOUNG. And I say that as a woman who was a newleywed AND a homeowner at the age of 20! Don't rush it.
Have fun and stop looking. I always find what I am looking for when I stop looking for it.

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:40:14 AM EDT
[#12]

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I'm with Zig and SP1grrl...don't try so hard! Hun...you are YOUNG. And I say that as a woman who was a newleywed AND a homeowner at the age of 20! Don't rush it.
Have fun and stop looking. I always find what I am looking for when I stop looking for it.




+1.

SLOW DOWN!!!  You can not rush into a relationship/marriage.   But you can damn sure rush into a heartache/divorce that will cost you 12 years to recover from...

Take your time, relax, and let her find you.   You are the catch, not her.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:58:42 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

SLOW DOWN!!!  You can not rush into a relationship/marriage.   But you can damn sure rush into a heartache/divorce





Unfortunately, alot of us here can attest to this fact.  Hang in there.  I was almost 32 when I got married, and looking back, I was really glad I waited that long.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:11:10 AM EDT
[#14]
VooDoo...

Read this and soak it all in....plz.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=407675&page=1
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 2:28:47 AM EDT
[#15]

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VooDoo...

Read this and soak it all in....plz.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=407675&page=1



Already read it.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 9:35:37 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
VooDoo...

Read this and soak it all in....plz.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=407675&page=1



Already read it.



Then tattoo this somewhere on yourself so you never forget:

"I will work towards being the best version of myself, and a good woman will admire this and flock to me."

Underneath that, in parentheses, "And if I keep ending up with screwy women, I will realize it's my choosing to blame, not the women"


Link Posted: 12/28/2005 9:37:21 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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VooDoo...

Read this and soak it all in....plz.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=407675&page=1



Already read it.



Then tattoo this somewhere on yourself so you never forget:

"I will work towards being the best version of myself, and a good woman will admire this and flock to me."

Underneath that, in parentheses, "And if I keep ending up with screwy women, I will realize it's my choosing to blame, not the women"





Same goes for us ladies, Swingset.
Equal blame in this game, I say!

Link Posted: 12/28/2005 9:42:40 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Geez! If I had my 20's to live over again, I'd be hiking the Grand Canyon, Utah, Colorado - heading to Ireland...not worrying about hooking up with a chickie snack (well, a guy snack for me...)

Enjoy life as much as you can. Do the things you love to do, and maybe you will meet someone who loves to do the same things. If you rush into getting together with someone - you may grow out of the relationship if you don't get all the rest of the things you'd like to accomplish out of the way first.

Focus on yourself for a while and you'll find that the confidence you gain from that alone might just bring you someone special!



I agree with everything SigZiggy.

Voodoo3dfx, you sound like me when I was your age.

The fact is most people your age aren't mature enough to have successful long term relationships yet.  They're still figuring out who they are and making their mistakes.

You're giong to make yourself miserable focusing on this stuff right now.  Better you should spend your time enjoying your freedom and following your interests.  There's plenty of time to find a mate 10 years from now.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:10:13 PM EDT
[#19]

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Stop looking for someone, and get out and do things you enjoy.  Odds are, you'll find a girl that likes to do the things YOU like to do.



You know, everytime a guy comes in here and asks this sort of question, this is the answer they always get.

Nothing personal to the ladies here, but I have to assume you don't know what you're talking about. This doesn't work. Well, at least never has for me.

That said though, there is a bright side. At least you'll be enjoying yourself doing things you like to do, but I wouldn't hold your breath that you're going to meet someone while doing them. Unless maybe you like hanging out at the mall and shopping for shoes.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:34:17 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Stop looking for someone, and get out and do things you enjoy.  Odds are, you'll find a girl that likes to do the things YOU like to do.



You know, everytime a guy comes in here and asks this sort of question, this is the answer they always get.

Nothing personal to the ladies here, but I have to assume you don't know what you're talking about. This doesn't work. Well, at least never has for me.

That said though, there is a bright side. At least you'll be enjoying yourself doing things you like to do, but I wouldn't hold your breath that you're going to meet someone while doing them. Unless maybe you like hanging out at the mall and shopping for shoes.



If I were single, and I wanted to meet a guy....where would I go?

Tell me what you think is the right answer to that question.

THEN GO THERE!!!!
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:39:32 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Stop looking for someone, and get out and do things you enjoy.  Odds are, you'll find a girl that likes to do the things YOU like to do.



You know, everytime a guy comes in here and asks this sort of question, this is the answer they always get.

Nothing personal to the ladies here, but I have to assume you don't know what you're talking about. This doesn't work. Well, at least never has for me.

That said though, there is a bright side. At least you'll be enjoying yourself doing things you like to do, but I wouldn't hold your breath that you're going to meet someone while doing them. Unless maybe you like hanging out at the mall and shopping for shoes.



If I were single, and I wanted to meet a guy....where would I go?

Tell me what you think is the right answer to that question.

THEN GO THERE!!!!



Simple. You'd go where guys are. Which may or may not be things you like to do.
Same for guys. We go where women are, which may or may not be things we like to do.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:49:47 PM EDT
[#22]

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You and me both bro.  I'm 24.



+1 I haven't dated since I was 17

-Foxxz
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 1:11:33 PM EDT
[#23]
Your kinda young to be giving up already.  Hopefully you won't settle for some one who is just ok most of the time.  

There are no garantees in life, love or relationships.  Should you decide to ride the roller coaster, it is not like a 'real roller coaster' where you can't jump off right in the middle, you don't have to wait till it stops.  If you were buying a jacket, and it was the one you really really wanted, and everything was just what you had been looking for, except it just didn't fit properly, would you still buy it just because???

There is no rush!!  

Once you get married and or start having children, the roller coaster becomes a trap, and that coat gets unbearable to wear.  You cannot fix people.  
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 2:39:36 PM EDT
[#24]
It's not as important as where you are....that's incidental. It's more important WHO you are.

If you're at a party, full of all 31 flavors of pie, and you're still a dork....guess what? You're a dork.

If you're at that party with something going on, some sort of life for yourself, a good job, level head on your shoulders, some confidence... Guess what? You're going to meet someone.

Success finding a mate is partially luck, but for a man it's having your shit together.

I have a friend who went to school to manage restaurants, we went to high school together. This guy was a friggin basket case when he was younger. Never had luck with women, ever. After school, he managed a couple chain restaurants (Chi Chi's, that sort of thing). Got himself some income, a nice house, a decent car, started making better decisions and whala, he's dating alot. And, better yet, he chose for himself a career which put himself in the paths of pretty women. Smart.

Don't "do what makes you happy". Shitty advice, period. Women don't gravitate towards men who shoot guns all day and lay in their underwear watching porn. Sorry ladies, you don't.

Women gravitate towards a man who is ambitious and has something going in his life.

If you start working towards being the man you're supposed to be, relationships will work themselves out because by the time you're in good shape, you'll probably be the age where long term relationships are something you can handle emotionally anyway.

So, what to do now? Easy, get yourself going on a decent career, find a nice place to live, and put your future in the path of nice women. That's it. All along the way, go on a date, get laid, take some relationship baby steps and learn about the women you date and are attracted to, hopefully those lessons will pay off when you say "I Do" and you won't be back on here with yet another divorce thread.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:00:59 PM EDT
[#25]

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-snip-



Sounds like we're not that far removed from nature at all. What has changed is brute strength/power into more power from  income/wealth. Security is now in forms of wealth, as before it was who was the bigger person.

My only issue is, with having ambitions in life, having a good income etc; you sometimes attract some of the worst gold diggers around.

Its part of the reason why I won't discuss my income with pretty much anyone. First, its none of their business.. plus, girl's eyes tend to light up when they hear how much you make. I make a very good living for a college kid, its one of the reasons why I can afford my expensive hobbies.

I am not looking to get married here, but having a steady relationship would be nice. One with tons of sex. I am "old fashioned"; I am not sleeping around with anyone unless we're in a relationship. I just can't take any type of risk.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:25:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:27:20 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
-snip-



Sounds like we're not that far removed from nature at all. What has changed is brute strength/power into more power from  income/wealth. Security is now in forms of wealth, as before it was who was the bigger person.

My only issue is, with having ambitions in life, having a good income etc; you sometimes attract some of the worst gold diggers around.

Its part of the reason why I won't discuss my income with pretty much anyone. First, its none of their business.. plus, girl's eyes tend to light up when they hear how much you make. I make a very good living for a college kid, its one of the reasons why I can afford my expensive hobbies.

I am not looking to get married here, but having a steady relationship would be nice. One with tons of sex. I am "old fashioned"; I am not sleeping around with anyone unless we're in a relationship. I just can't take any type of risk.



You're looking at your situation with a pessimists eye, which is probably alot of your problem.

It's not about wealth or status, it's about being a good partner. Like it or not, we are men, we are the providers and we are not so far removed from the plains of Africa that we don't do better when we have something to offer, but that something isn't just money - or else poor dickheads with coke habits wouldn't get women.

What you want is to have options, to be what women LOOK FOR, so that you not only attract gold-diggers and nut-jobs, but the good ones too. You want to be comfortable in your life with some options, and let the women come to you - so that YOU DECIDE whom you choose to be with, and why. If you have your choice of 10 women in the next 5 years, chances are 1 of them will be worth spending some time with. However, if you remain bitter and untrusting (even of your own judgement), you'll be lucky to have 2 women to choose from. How are the odds then? Not in your favor.

I'm with ya, I really am. I have been there, I know what you're going through but trust me if you keep working on yourself and making your life better, as if the women in your life are there waiting for you to arrive, things like relationships really do work themselves out. You have to be smart tho. You have to be willing to examine your wants and needs, and look past pussy to the things that matter....like her past, her parents, her ideals and motives, and then choose or walk and you have to be strong enough to walk when it's not right for both your sakes.

Keep your chin up and don't get down on women or yourself, unless you want to wallow in misery for a long time. There ARE good women out there....waiting.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:34:54 PM EDT
[#28]

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-snip-



This is hella complicated.

I can see why people wait till after college just to even get into relationships.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:35:16 PM EDT
[#29]

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... and my favorite wear is t-shirts and jeans ...



... Ah ha!

... That's your problem right there!
... On a more serious note, I'm in agreement with the "slow down" bunch.
(Still, go buy some nice slacks, leather shoes and button-down or two)
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:37:01 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
... On a more serious note, I'm in agreement with the "slow down" bunch.
(Still, go buy some nice slacks, leather shoes and button-down or two)





I will not turn metrosexual, I like my jeans, shirt, hiking boots and flannel jacket.

I am more of a summer guy anyway, winter sucks.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 11:07:42 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
... On a more serious note, I'm in agreement with the "slow down" bunch.
(Still, go buy some nice slacks, leather shoes and button-down or two)





I will not turn metrosexual, I like my jeans, shirt, hiking boots and flannel jacket.

I am more of a summer guy anyway, winter sucks.




ha

WW is HARDLY a metrosexual

hes a MAN, baby    

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:53:27 AM EDT
[#32]

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Stop looking for someone, and get out and do things you enjoy.  Odds are, you'll find a girl that likes to do the things YOU like to do.



You know, everytime a guy comes in here and asks this sort of question, this is the answer they always get.

Nothing personal to the ladies here, but I have to assume you don't know what you're talking about. This doesn't work. Well, at least never has for me.

That said though, there is a bright side. At least you'll be enjoying yourself doing things you like to do, but I wouldn't hold your breath that you're going to meet someone while doing them. Unless maybe you like hanging out at the mall and shopping for shoes.



If I were single, and I wanted to meet a guy....where would I go?

Tell me what you think is the right answer to that question.

THEN GO THERE!!!!



Simple. You'd go where guys are. Which may or may not be things you like to do.
Same for guys. We go where women are, which may or may not be things we like to do.



Gah....you people THINK too much!
I've been hit on in the Grocery store! (Evidently a wedding ring is no deterrent).

People!!! See that cute girl/guy paying for his/her morning cup of coffee???
Strike up a freaken conversation with him/her fortheloveofGodandallthat'sholy!

No need for the men to go shoe shopping or the women to go to to...(is hardpressed to fing a place where the men are "waiting" to be hit on any more than another place) hardware stores.

<shakes head>
I would so suck at this single crap. I don't play "the game"...shoot, I don't even know "the rules." All I know is, when ya got something in your sights, time to squeeze off a round. Sometimes you'll hit center mass, and sometimes you'll miss.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:18:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Drache, et al...

What I was trying to imply, that I guess wasn't picked up on...is that there are all kinds of books written for women on "where to meet guys".  My suggestion was to GO TO THOSE PLACES.

Home Depot.  Friday or Saturday night.  BINGO.   The women have been told to go there to meet nice guys.  SO GO FIND THEM.  You'll probably need something anyway.

Laundromats on a Sunday afternoon.  Perfect.  The movies on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.  Go early.  Scope out the single women.

The park.  Look for women walking a dog alone.
Go there often.

I'm just offering suggestions.  If you care to ignore them, then don't complain that there aren't any decent women out there.  The women are out there, and if you don't find them, some other asshat will.

Oh, and for Drache, the glass wasn't even there to begin with.

j/k....love ya sweetie.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 6:16:20 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Drache, et al...

What I was trying to imply, that I guess wasn't picked up on...is that there are all kinds of books written for women on "where to meet guys".  My suggestion was to GO TO THOSE PLACES.

Home Depot.  Friday or Saturday night.  BINGO.   The women have been told to go there to meet nice guys.  SO GO FIND THEM.  You'll probably need something anyway.

Laundromats on a Sunday afternoon.  Perfect.  The movies on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.  Go early.  Scope out the single women.

The park.  Look for women walking a dog alone.
Go there often.

I'm just offering suggestions.  If you care to ignore them, then don't complain that there aren't any decent women out there.  The women are out there, and if you don't find them, some other asshat will.

Oh, and for Drache, the glass wasn't even there to begin with.

j/k....love ya sweetie.



Yup...my point as well...Just stop being a spectator and join the game.

<---but since I've been married since before Jennifer Connelly became a hottie, I may be wrong.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 6:36:00 AM EDT
[#35]

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I've been hit on in the Grocery store! (Evidently a wedding ring is no deterrent).



Its actually a magnet.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 7:36:32 AM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 8:02:55 AM EDT
[#37]

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I've been hit on in the Grocery store! (Evidently a wedding ring is no deterrent).



Its actually a magnet.



Boy that's no lie.  Some men just don't seem to care if you have a wedding ring on or not.  It truly amazes me.



... Some unscrupulous bastards consider affairs with married women "safe". Better chance of keeping quiet, lesser chance of STD on so forth.

... I think it's absolute despicable behavior to cheat.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 8:22:18 AM EDT
[#38]

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I've been hit on in the Grocery store! (Evidently a wedding ring is no deterrent).



Its actually a magnet.



Boy that's no lie.  Some men just don't seem to care if you have a wedding ring on or not.  It truly amazes me.



Yup. I think its within human nature to have what you cannot get.... and married people is one of them. Some people can control their desires/emotions better than others... hence morals.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:17:09 PM EDT
[#39]
OK, first, the glass is not half empty. It's too big.

Now just as examples, doing things you like.
I like Golf. (occasionally) Not once have I seen a woman on the golf course. Single or otherwise. Now I'm sure there are women who play golf, just saying I've never met one.

Shooting ranges. Obviously there are women who go there too, but in all the trips I've made to the range, I've only seen two women. Both were brought by their husbands. So that's also a dead end.

Movies on a Saturday night? Yeah. Done that too. Guess what? Every woman there is either married or on a date. Not exactly the time to hit on them.

My point is only that these may sound like wonderful ideas, but they've never worked for me. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing them. They are things I enjoy. I'm just not holding my breath that I'll meet women while doing them. I think swingset has it about right. Doesn't matter where you go it's who you are that counts.

As for wedding rings, I don't really know why you ladies are amazed. Women are exactly the same. Put a wedding ring on a guy's finger and women flock to him. Different reasons I'm sure, but same reaction.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:21:21 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
OK, first, the glass is not half empty. It's too big.

Now just as examples, doing things you like.
I like Golf. (occasionally) Not once have I seen a woman on the golf course. Single or otherwise. Now I'm sure there are women who play golf, just saying I've never met one.

Shooting ranges. Obviously there are women who go there too, but in all the trips I've made to the range, I've only seen two women. Both were brought by their husbands. So that's also a dead end.

Movies on a Saturday night? Yeah. Done that too. Guess what? Every woman there is either married or on a date. Not exactly the time to hit on them.

My point is only that these may sound like wonderful ideas, but they've never worked for me. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing them. They are things I enjoy. I'm just not holding my breath that I'll meet women while doing them. I think swingset has it about right. Doesn't matter where you go it's who you are that counts.

As for wedding rings, I don't really know why you ladies are amazed. Women are exactly the same. Put a wedding ring on a guy's finger and women flock to him. Different reasons I'm sure, but same reaction.



well d'uh!  Everyone knows the movies on a Saturday night are a bad idea.  That's when all the mall rats go anyway.

And I don't think it's having what you can't have so much as once you're in a relationship, you exude a certain confidence.  This is picked up on by men and women alike.
Therefore, you're a much more attractive prospect.
So many men and women don't even wear rings anymore, it's hard to tell by that, anyway.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:46:04 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
OK, first, the glass is not half empty. It's too big.

Now just as examples, doing things you like.
I like Golf. (occasionally) Not once have I seen a woman on the golf course. Single or otherwise. Now I'm sure there are women who play golf, just saying I've never met one.

Shooting ranges. Obviously there are women who go there too, but in all the trips I've made to the range, I've only seen two women. Both were brought by their husbands. So that's also a dead end.

Movies on a Saturday night? Yeah. Done that too. Guess what? Every woman there is either married or on a date. Not exactly the time to hit on them.

My point is only that these may sound like wonderful ideas, but they've never worked for me. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing them. They are things I enjoy. I'm just not holding my breath that I'll meet women while doing them. I think swingset has it about right. Doesn't matter where you go it's who you are that counts.

As for wedding rings, I don't really know why you ladies are amazed. Women are exactly the same. Put a wedding ring on a guy's finger and women flock to him. Different reasons I'm sure, but same reaction.



well d'uh!  Everyone knows the movies on a Saturday night are a bad idea.  That's when all the mall rats go anyway.

And I don't think it's having what you can't have so much as once you're in a relationship, you exude a certain confidence.  This is picked up on by men and women alike.
Therefore, you're a much more attractive prospect.
So many men and women don't even wear rings anymore, it's hard to tell by that, anyway.



Golf/Movies/range: not exactly SINGLE female rich environments, there Drache. And you may find single women golfing...but most of them are old enough to be your gran (I know...my MOM likes to golf)
As far as the wedding rings...shoot...I have no SKIN LEFT under mine.
Kidding...but it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY obvious I am married.
I have no problem with being flirted with (yes, please!) but there is a LINE.

Drache: Supermarkets after 5 pm, Stores that sell active type stuff (I dunno if you have a "Bob's---but I was hit on twice in there in as many weeks while buying Christmas gifts)
"Safe" bars (think TGI Fridays) if there's one inside a mall, all the better.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:13:35 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
Golf/Movies/range: not exactly SINGLE female rich environments, there Drache. And you may find single women golfing...but most of them are old enough to be your gran (I know...my MOM likes to golf)
As far as the wedding rings...shoot...I have no SKIN LEFT under mine.
Kidding...but it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY obvious I am married.
I have no problem with being flirted with (yes, please!) but there is a LINE.

Drache: Supermarkets after 5 pm, Stores that sell active type stuff (I dunno if you have a "Bob's---but I was hit on twice in there in as many weeks while buying Christmas gifts)
"Safe" bars (think TGI Fridays) if there's one inside a mall, all the better.



Hon?
That was kind of my point.
Telling guys, "go out and do things you like to do and you'll meet someone" rather depends on what it is they like to do, don't you think?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:16:37 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Golf/Movies/range: not exactly SINGLE female rich environments, there Drache. And you may find single women golfing...but most of them are old enough to be your gran (I know...my MOM likes to golf)
As far as the wedding rings...shoot...I have no SKIN LEFT under mine.
Kidding...but it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY obvious I am married.
I have no problem with being flirted with (yes, please!) but there is a LINE.

Drache: Supermarkets after 5 pm, Stores that sell active type stuff (I dunno if you have a "Bob's---but I was hit on twice in there in as many weeks while buying Christmas gifts)
"Safe" bars (think TGI Fridays) if there's one inside a mall, all the better.



Hon?
That was kind of my point.
Telling guys, "go out and do things you like to do and you'll meet someone" rather depends on what it is they like to do, don't you think?



Yes...but maybe it's time for NEW hobbies.
Golf...I mean...MY MOTHER plays GOLF!
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:26:42 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Golf/Movies/range: not exactly SINGLE female rich environments, there Drache. And you may find single women golfing...but most of them are old enough to be your gran (I know...my MOM likes to golf)
As far as the wedding rings...shoot...I have no SKIN LEFT under mine.
Kidding...but it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY obvious I am married.
I have no problem with being flirted with (yes, please!) but there is a LINE.

Drache: Supermarkets after 5 pm, Stores that sell active type stuff (I dunno if you have a "Bob's---but I was hit on twice in there in as many weeks while buying Christmas gifts)
"Safe" bars (think TGI Fridays) if there's one inside a mall, all the better.



Hon?
That was kind of my point.
Telling guys, "go out and do things you like to do and you'll meet someone" rather depends on what it is they like to do, don't you think?



Yes...but maybe it's time for NEW hobbies.
Golf...I mean...MY MOTHER plays GOLF!



I did say "occasionally" dear.
I don't go there very often. I certainly don't live on the golf course, geez.

Besides, those were only a few examples to illustrate the point.  I do have other hobbies.
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 8:22:14 AM EDT
[#45]
I love my wife to death, and I'm never going to leave her, because she is a good woman, easy to love, and is my (almost) perfect mate.  However, sometimes I wish that I was single.  You never realize the freedom you have when your single (not saying I want other women, just be able to do more of the things I want, instead of things I Have to do), until you are not single any longer.  Most of this longing has to do with lack of $, so I can't really blame it entirely upon being married because she would let me if we could afford it.  I guess what I am trying to say is this:  When I was single, I had the $ and the time do as I pleased.  Now I have neithor the $ or the time to much of anything that I really want to (but I am sure that in the long run I am better off now, than I would be single........if things keep going the way they have been, which is, they are improving.  Get married, and you start your entire life all over again.  Your finances get all messed up, your expenduatures go up, your cash in reserve goes down, and your time gets eaten up by things that you always did, but never seemed to use as much of it.
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