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Posted: 4/29/2011 3:06:02 PM EDT
Talking to a friend in California. She says that the flight from Buffalo to San Diego takes about eight hours, including a stop in North Carolina. This is a little bit over 3,000 miles total.

My flight to St. Petersburg will be sixteen hours (8 hours to London, then 8 from there to St. Petersburg) According to my googling skills, St. Petersburg is 4,302 miles from Buffalo. Why would a thousand extra miles add so much more time to the flight? What am I missing?

Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:07:00 PM EDT
Layover?
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:10:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Averagebear:
Layover?


I took that into consideration, and added up only raw flying time.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:10:55 PM EDT
Flight times or local time on the ground when you take off and land?
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:11:34 PM EDT
Don't know all factors involved, but wouldn't flying east, with the rotation of the earth, play some role?
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:11:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2011 3:13:35 PM EDT by Kalahnikid]
It takes longer to go west than east.

ETA: Because of wind, not the rotation of the earth.
The atmosphere rotates too, If it didnt would could take off from the east coast and just hover in a helicopter for a few hours until the west coast rolled by.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:14:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:
Talking to a friend in California. She says that the flight from Buffalo to San Diego takes about eight hours, including a stop in North Carolina. This is a little bit over 3,000 miles total.

My flight to St. Petersburg will be sixteen hours (8 hours to London, then 8 from there to St. Petersburg) According to my googling skills, St. Petersburg is 4,302 miles from Buffalo. Why would a thousand extra miles add so much more time to the flight? What am I missing?







Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2011 3:19:08 PM EDT by cjk]
I really thought this was another coming out thread.
Son, I am disappoint.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:19:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:
Talking to a friend in California. She says that the flight from Buffalo to San Diego takes about eight hours, including a stop in North Carolina. This is a little bit over 3,000 miles total.

My flight to St. Petersburg will be sixteen hours (8 hours to London, then 8 from there to St. Petersburg) According to my googling skills, St. Petersburg is 4,302 miles from Buffalo. Why would a thousand extra miles add so much more time to the flight? What am I missing?



Because you're not taking a polar route. You're going via London.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:24:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2011 3:25:04 PM EDT by TheGrandIllusion]
Originally Posted By vim:
Flight times or local time on the ground when you take off and land?


The schedule puts it in local time...for my return flight, it looks like my flight from St. Petersburg will only take 45 minutes, in reality it is 8 hours. I converted everything to EST and got 16 hours.

PaintItBlack: so would via London actually be farther than 4,302 miles?

Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:25:30 PM EDT
Headwinds, how do they work?
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:25:55 PM EDT
Bermuda Triangle.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:29:45 PM EDT
Going from West to East, planes leave Con trails that make them go a little faster.  
-SS

Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:31:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SleeperShooter:
Going from West to East, planes leave Con Chem trails that make them go a little faster.  Are used for mind control
-SS



Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:32:38 PM EDT
Because Soviet magnets are backwards and work differently.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:34:01 PM EDT



Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:



Originally Posted By vim:

Flight times or local time on the ground when you take off and land?




The schedule puts it in local time...for my return flight, it looks like my flight from St. Petersburg will only take 45 minutes, in reality it is 8 hours. I converted everything to EST and got 16 hours.



PaintItBlack: so would via London actually be farther than 4,302 miles?



Yes.



 
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:38:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
It takes longer to go west than east.

ETA: Because of wind, not the rotation of the earth.
The atmosphere rotates too, If it didnt would could take off from the east coast and just hover in a helicopter for a few hours until the west coast rolled by.


Flying to Korea from portland, we flew way north and saw mucho white on the ground. flying back we came accross the ocean, a direct flight that was, IIRC, much faster. The wind. It kinda makes a difference.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:39:57 PM EDT
I just love ARFCOM.   Someone asks for his flight math to get checked and gets the Bermuda Triangle, chem trails and someone looking for a new gay friend.



Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:40:51 PM EDT
Because it's all fake, man. They just take your money, and you sit in a "plane" for eight hours, and they change the scenery while you doze.
It's a GRAND ILLUSION.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:44:08 PM EDT
i dunno, but it probably has something to do with magnets or a treadmill
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:46:41 PM EDT



Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:



Originally Posted By vim:

Flight times or local time on the ground when you take off and land?




The schedule puts it in local time...for my return flight, it looks like my flight from St. Petersburg will only take 45 minutes, in reality it is 8 hours. I converted everything to EST and got 16 hours.



PaintItBlack: so would via London actually be farther than 4,302 miles?



Recheck your math.....I figure that it will only take 2 hours, in reality it is 288 hours.





 
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:49:33 PM EDT
The plane with more hamsters will fly faster.

Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:50:32 PM EDT



Originally Posted By OKIE-CARBINE:


i dunno, but it probably has something to do with magnets or AND a treadmill






 
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:51:27 PM EDT



Originally Posted By xraydoc1:


Don't know all factors involved, but wouldn't flying east, with the rotation of the earth, play some role?


Yeah, you're actually going back in time, and that makes it a little longer.



 
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:57:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:
Originally Posted By vim:
Flight times or local time on the ground when you take off and land?


The schedule puts it in local time...for my return flight, it looks like my flight from St. Petersburg will only take 45 minutes, in reality it is 8 hours. I converted everything to EST and got 16 hours.

PaintItBlack: so would via London actually be farther than 4,302 miles?



St Petersburg, Russia is around 5700 miles including Buffalo>NYC>London>St. Petersburg

Santa Monica, CA is 2200 miles direct.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 3:58:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2011 4:00:15 PM EDT by larkinmusic]
It's 3573 miles from Buffalo to London and the flight time is 7 hours 25 minutes.  London to St. Petersburg is 1306 miles and the flight time is 2 hours and 37 minutes.





Did you factor the  time zones correctly?



Are you flying on a prop plane from London?

Link Posted: 4/29/2011 4:02:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By larkinmusic:
It's 3573 miles from Buffalo to London and the flight time is 7 hours 25 minutes.  London to St. Petersburg is 1306 miles and the flight time is 2 hours and 37 minutes.

Did you factor the  time zones correctly?

Are you flying on a prop plane from London?


No but he is probably flying a prop plane to Montreal or Newark.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 4:03:03 PM EDT
Daylight savings.

They keep moving it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 4:03:40 PM EDT
Wow that's weird. I'm flying out to Orlando next month and my flights go as 4hrs to LAX  &  5hrs to Orlando(Flying times).
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 4:09:32 PM EDT
Lots of stuff can be involved, head wind/tail wind, cruising altitude, plane taken...but it sounds like you messed up the time zones.  Enjoy your ride on the 74x.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 4:11:52 PM EDT
Great Circle Route, bitches!  










Figure 6.  Comparison of Great Circle Route and Loxodrome on
the Mercator Projection
.  The loxodrome is a line of constant
heading, and the great circle, although appearing longer than the loxodrome,
is actually the shortest route between New York and London.






Link Posted: 4/29/2011 4:56:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2011 4:57:39 PM EDT by SleeperShooter]
This could also be another reason that it takes so long...




Try using a water jetpack...



-SS
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 4:59:49 PM EDT
Which one of the two planes has a treadmill?
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 5:01:43 PM EDT





Originally Posted By Dumpster_Baby:



Great Circle Route, bitches!  
http://www.ncgia.ucsb.edu/education/curricula/giscc/units/u014/figures/figure06.gif
Figure 6.  Comparison of Great Circle Route and Loxodrome onthe Mercator Projection.  The loxodrome is a line of constantheading, and the great circle, although appearing longer than the loxodrome,is actually the shortest route between New York and London.

Engines Turn Or People Swim






 
 
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