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Posted: 4/16/2017 9:38:39 PM EDT
but he was a congressman and he goes to every gun related function/rally/trade show imaginable.

Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:40:42 PM EDT
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Im a gun guy and just recently submitted my first NFA forms. Even then i had to do a shit load of research to make sure shit was right and still fucked it up a couple times.


Saying you dont know what the NFA is and not understanding NFA laws is a broad spectrum. What exactly did he say?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:42:30 PM EDT
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There are people here who don't even know where to start with NFA or heard so many things that they are confused.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:42:53 PM EDT
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Whoa there.... slow down with all that context.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:44:06 PM EDT
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Why should Allen West be an expert on the NFA?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:44:51 PM EDT
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Legal stuff never really was Allen's strong suit.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:44:55 PM EDT
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Im a gun guy and just recently submitted my first NFA forms. Even then i had to do a shit load of research to make sure shit was right and still fucked it up a couple times.


Saying you dont know what the NFA is and not understanding NFA laws is a broad spectrum. What exactly did he say?
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He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:45:37 PM EDT
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He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
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Im a gun guy and just recently submitted my first NFA forms. Even then i had to do a shit load of research to make sure shit was right and still fucked it up a couple times.


Saying you dont know what the NFA is and not understanding NFA laws is a broad spectrum. What exactly did he say?
He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
Most people don't know that
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:46:06 PM EDT
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Because he was a republican congressman and goes to every NRA event trying to fight government regulation, yet he never took the time to look into it?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:46:45 PM EDT
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Most people don't know that
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Again, a former congressman and NRA spokesperson isn't "most people."
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:47:01 PM EDT
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He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
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Im a gun guy and just recently submitted my first NFA forms. Even then i had to do a shit load of research to make sure shit was right and still fucked it up a couple times.


Saying you dont know what the NFA is and not understanding NFA laws is a broad spectrum. What exactly did he say?
He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
Who the fuck employs someone to install a forward grip? You just install it. Your hearsay sounds like bullshit.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:47:16 PM EDT
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ALLEN WEST IS AN NRA BOARD MEMBER!

He's useless as one if he doesn't know the NFA.  The NFA is the worst gun law in the country, and the one that needs to stop existing the most.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:47:36 PM EDT
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He can't install his own VFG?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:48:08 PM EDT
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Most people don't know NFA laws, predominately because they are idiotic and make no sense.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:48:14 PM EDT
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He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
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I've seen some people, less than a handful, here delete their image(s) after being pointed out. I had to tell a buddy of mine the same thing.

On the overall Give-A-Fuck Meter its pegging pretty low.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:48:41 PM EDT
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Okay...

I probably don't either. Thanks for all that info you provided.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:49:55 PM EDT
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He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
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Im a gun guy and just recently submitted my first NFA forms. Even then i had to do a shit load of research to make sure shit was right and still fucked it up a couple times.


Saying you dont know what the NFA is and not understanding NFA laws is a broad spectrum. What exactly did he say?
He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
It's "bait", not "bate" oh master of stuff.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:51:11 PM EDT
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ALLEN WEST IS AN NRA BOARD MEMBER!

He's useless as one if he doesn't know the NFA.  The NFA is the worst gun law in the country, and the one that needs to stop existing the most.
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Exactly. Maybe if these people actually took their stances on this stuff seriously, something would be done about it. How are you supposed to fix or fight against something you don't even know?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:52:05 PM EDT
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Who the fuck employs someone to install a forward grip? You just install it. Your hearsay sounds like bullshit.
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It's on his website and his Facebook page. Find it yourself.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:52:31 PM EDT
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It's on his website and his Facebook page. Find it yourself.
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Who the fuck employs someone to install a forward grip? You just install it. Your hearsay sounds like bullshit.
It's on his website and his Facebook page. Find it yourself.
YOU POSTED THE FUCKING TOPIC.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:52:31 PM EDT
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Sounds like every politician ever!!! Seriously none of these puppets bother to learn the laws they are fighting for or against, it's all the same to them. Just read the damn script puppets!! haha
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:54:24 PM EDT
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YOU POSTED THE FUCKING TOPIC.
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You're the one questioning it.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:56:40 PM EDT
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Because he was a republican congressman and goes to every NRA event trying to fight government regulation, yet he never took the time to look into it?
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Why should Allen West be an expert on the NFA?
Because he was a republican congressman and goes to every NRA event trying to fight government regulation, yet he never took the time to look into it?
Hey Einstein, Newsflash. NRA doesn't care that much about Title II firearms or suppressors as much as they do Title I. Majority of NRA seem to be over run with people who's priority is bolt action hunting rifles and semi-auto AR15 rifles. NRA was responsible for convincing President Reagan to signoff on the 1985 FOPA machinegun ban.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:57:28 PM EDT
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Hey Einstein, Newsflash. NRA doesn't care that much about Title II firearms or suppressors as much as they do Title I. Majority of NRA seem to be over run with people who's priority is bolt action hunting rifles and semi-auto AR15 rifles. NRA was responsible for convincing President Reagan to signoff on the 1985 FOPA machinegun ban.
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I believe we're arguing the same point...
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:57:42 PM EDT
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He had an AR pistol and tried to have a local range install a forward grip for him and they told him that was a violation of the NFA.

He has been rallying against the govt for years now and he didn't know this?  He's been the click bate master since he didn't get re-elected.
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Shocking as it may be - NFA owners are a small percentage of gun owners.

Hell were a small percentage of this place.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:59:24 PM EDT
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Shocking as it may be - NFA owners are a small percentage of gun owners.

Hell were a small percentage of this place.
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But I bet most people here are at the very least aware that forward grips are a no-no on pistols. The info graphic is all over the Internet if they're too lazy to read or research.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:00:06 PM EDT
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It's always next to impossible to explain the NFA law to non-gun people. That's the clearest indicator of how nonsensical the law really is. They can't wrap their head around it.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:00:13 PM EDT
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But I bet most people here are at the very least aware that forward grips are a no-no on pistols. The info graphic is all over the Internet if they're too lazy to read or research.
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Most people on the forum will have a better understanding of a topic pertaining to the board? In other new, Water is Wet.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:04:41 PM EDT
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Most people on the forum will have a better understanding of a topic pertaining to the board? In other new, Water is Wet.
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You act as though Allen West worked at a fast food joint for 30 years. He's former military, a former congressman, and an NRA board member. If anyone should know even the most basic portions of the NFA, it should've been him.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:05:05 PM EDT
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It seems I talk to a gun person fairly frequently who have been told all sorts of retarded shit about the NFA.  Hell I was one until I learned about it from a gunshop.  

We really need to make a point to educate more people about it.  

This is one of the reasons a lot of members are so passed about Nolo and moose losing the BOD.  The NRA needs to move on this hard.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:05:15 PM EDT
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InB4 Shoulder Thing That Goes Up
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:06:52 PM EDT
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Lame ass complaint.

Get real op.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:07:30 PM EDT
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Lame ass complaint.

Get real op.
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Welcome to GD.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:08:08 PM EDT
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You act as though Allen West worked at a fast food joint for 30 years. He's former military, a former congressman, and an NRA board member. If anyone should know even the most basic portions of the NFA, it should've been him.
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Should =/= does

Again, it's a stupid law that most people wouldn't even stop to consider the legality of.

We have a selection bias because a good chunk of us are high upper percentiles as far as knowledge of laws go.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:09:08 PM EDT
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He's on the NRA board
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:11:07 PM EDT
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He also says he supports wait periods for the purchase of firearms. Fuck him!
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:12:32 PM EDT
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Former military. OK, and? I've met a many former guy who have zero knowledge about guns other than keep them clean, keep them lubed, and don't lose them.

He's former Congressman. OK, again, and? Congresspeople don't know dick about dick at times, regardless of how high we think of them.

He's former NRA board. Once again, and? NRA is barely starting to talk about suppressors within the past couple years, SBRs and related laws isn't pinging their radar.

I get what your saying, but it's just not anything to be upset about. I'd be willing to bet there are ATF agents that didn't know about that too.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:12:34 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if he has changed recently but steven crowder still talks about having to obtain a class III license to buy a machine gun. I like him but he is fairly ignorant or intentionally misleading when he talks about the process to obtain a gun. He uses the most strict laws and implies that they are common, although they aren't.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:14:10 PM EDT
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Again, a former congressman and NRA spokesperson isn't "most people."
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Most people don't know that
Again, a former congressman and NRA spokesperson isn't "most people."
Allen West is a good man.  And your thread is stupid.  That's all I got.  If you had some red meat maybe, but what you got is the stupid for thread basis.  

On another note, I cannot wait for him to challenge John Cornyn in Cornyn's next primary.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:14:20 PM EDT
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I'll be sure to tell Allen West on Wednesday that OP is disappointed in him.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:14:57 PM EDT
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This.  It is confusing.  
Add state laws to that mix....
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:15:58 PM EDT
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But I bet most people here are at the very least aware that forward grips are a no-no on pistols. The info graphic is all over the Internet if they're too lazy to read or research.
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Shocking as it may be - NFA owners are a small percentage of gun owners.

Hell were a small percentage of this place.
But I bet most people here are at the very least aware that forward grips are a no-no on pistols. The info graphic is all over the Internet if they're too lazy to read or research.
At public ranges I've seen it plenty of times.

Also those who don't realize those psa 10.5" uppers on sale two weeks prior aren't allowed on just any ole lower. Seen that a lot.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:17:16 PM EDT
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He's former military, a former congressman, and an NRA board member. If anyone should know even the most basic portions of the NFA, it should've been him.
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Military doesn't need to go through NFA for the arms issued to them.

Congressmen don't need to go through NFA for anything.

NRA doesn't need to (but should) go through NFA. They worry more about the most common arms.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:18:45 PM EDT
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Again, a former congressman and NRA spokesperson isn't "most people."
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I would strongly suspect most pro gun congressmen don't know the NFA code that well. Same goes for the anti gun congressmen.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:20:17 PM EDT
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If I met him in person I'd definitely ask him about it. He lives in Dallas, but we don't get invited to the same parties.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:21:19 PM EDT
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I would strongly suspect most pro gun congressmen don't know the NFA code that well. Same goes for the anti gun congressmen.
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Which is a serious problem. Not that it makes much difference since they can't even make good on their own campaign promises.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:21:31 PM EDT
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ALLEN WEST IS AN NRA BOARD MEMBER!

He's useless as one if he doesn't know the NFA.  The NFA is the worst gun law in the country, and the one that needs to stop existing the most.
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All he needs to know is nfa should end.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:21:38 PM EDT
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You're the one questioning it.
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YOU POSTED THE FUCKING TOPIC.
You're the one questioning it.
Maybe I should've been more descriptive. Try this:

You posted the piece of shit topic with no fucking information and not one damn link or quote in sight. Quit posting piece of shit topics with no fucking information and then people won't question it.

Better?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 10:22:28 PM EDT
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Yeah this
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Maybe I should've been more descriptive. Try this:

You posted the piece of shit topic with no fucking information and not one damn link or quote in sight. Quit posting piece of shit topics with no fucking information and then people won't question it.

Better?
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YOU POSTED THE FUCKING TOPIC.
You're the one questioning it.
Maybe I should've been more descriptive. Try this:

You posted the piece of shit topic with no fucking information and not one damn link or quote in sight. Quit posting piece of shit topics with no fucking information and then people won't question it.

Better?
Succinct and on target.  A+ posting right here folks!!!

*I would also add Allen West may have more crap to do than sort out the intricacies of a stupid law he already knows sucks.  He stays pretty busy.
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