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9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 8/13/2005 3:12:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2005 3:22:22 AM EDT by senorFrog]
EDIT: Kinda long but worth a read. If nothing else notice the names in red.


History - It Is Pretty Short
The huntersandshooters.com website was licensed April 25, 2005. The majority of the site seems to have been written in June. So they are brand new.

The licensing company is DCS Congressional.

Update: August 7, 2005 - As of August 3, the registration information for huntersandshooters.com has been updated to reflect the AHSA as the owner of the site name. There is no change in the blatant anti-gun rights positions expressed on the site.

Who Is DCS?
They are a collection of Democratic operatives that have worked for some of the country's leading gun grabbers.

Gerry Kavanaugh - President
... a close advisor to the John Edwards for President campaign. Prior to working for John Edwards, he was the Policy Director for the Democratic National Committee. Mr. Kavanaugh served as Senator Edward M. Kennedy's Chief of Staff and worked with him through both his 1994 and 2000 re-elections.

David Bonior - Founding Principal
Elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1976 serving for 26 years. A reliable voter for gun control.
Even their IT guy has done work for the Humane Society of the US. They are a group that works to end hunting in the United States.

What DCS Says About Itself?
From What We Do:

DCS utilizes cutting edge technology to create a winning Internet strategy for elected officials, campaigns and organizations. Our experienced political and Internet team will work directly with campaigns, political organizations, and their strategic partners to develop a plan that combines creative, research-driven messages with aggressive online advocacy. We will work with your fundraising, press and issue teams in their earliest stages to develop effective Internet strategies, full media plans, and fundraising strategies that can be turned into potent and powerful solutions.

My favorite part is: "research-driven messages". What they are really saying is that they find out what you want to hear so that their client can tell you that.

Who Does DCS Work For?
From Clients:

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Congressman John Conyers (D-MI)
Congresswoman Diana DeGette (D-CO)
Congressman Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
Congressman Jim Moran (D-VA)
This is a who's-who of gun grabbers. They also list a slew of other Congressman. Every Congressman that DCS lists is a Democrat. That should tell us something.

Ray Schoenke, President of AHSA
Major Donator to Gun Control Politicians & Groups
Al Gore 1991 $ 1,000
Barbara Boxer 1991 1,000
1995 1,000
1996 3,000
Barbara A. Mikulski 1991 1,000
1997 2,000
2000 2,500
Bill Clinton 1996 1,000
Constance Morella 1992 1,000
David Bonior 1996 800
1997 1,000
Mar 2000 500
Jul 2000 500
Diane Feinstein 1996 1,000
Edward Kennedy Apr 1994 1,000
Oct 1994 1,000
John Kerry 1996 1,000
Robert G. Torricelli 1996 1,000
Handgun Control, Inc. 2000 5,000
America Coming Together 2004 10,000

Total Found So Far $36,300

This list does not include any donations to the Democratic National Committee (which have been numerous and substantive) or any state or local organization. It also does not include any donations to individuals we do not have time to research. And finally, it does not include any donations by his wife. We believe this list is long enough to speak to Ray Schoenke's commitment to the Second Amendment.

Bob Ricker, Executive Director, AHSA
Bob Ricker is a former employee of the NRA and turned sides a number of years ago.

Testified for the NAACP in a junk lawsuit. - http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/alerts/reader/0,2061,562574,00.html. Read his statement.

John E. Rosenthal, President, AHSA Foundation
He is also listed as ASHA Executive Vice President, Shooting Resources.
At one time he was Chairman of Stop Handgun Violence, a Massachusetts organization formed to promote gun control. He worked with Handgun Control President Michael Barnes on a national billboard campaign at the U.S. Capitol to call on Congress to pass gun laws similar to those in Massachusetts.

On the Leadership page, this John Rosenthal is stated as being from Boston and says

Mr. Rosenthal has played a pivotal role in the successful gun violence prevention efforts in the City of Boston ...

A simple Google search finds a John E. Rosenthal active in the Boston area as a gun control advocate. Read a Boston Magazine profile of him.

Joseph J. Vince, Jr., Board of Directors, AHSA
Chief (Ret.) Crime Gun Analysis Branch, ATF
President of Crime Gun Solutions in Frederick, Md
Allowed his name to be used by the Brady Campaign in a letter to senators as against a 2004 version of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.
Jody Powell, Co-Chairman, AHSA Advisory Board
A. Austin Dorr, Co-Chairman, AHSA Advisory Board
Dan Drummond, Press Contact
Chairman - Fairfax City Democratic Committee
Runs a blog - http://fairfaxcitydems.blogspot.com/
Supports Tim Kaine for VA govenor who, has been a rabid gun grabber but is now trying to change his stripes. See Tim Kaine and gun control.
Seems to work for Weber Shandwick Worldwide, a professional PR agency.
Stated Goals
On the Who We Are of the website you will find the following:

According to a 2003 Field & Stream National Hunting Survey, sportsmen overwhelmingly support reasonable gun safety proposals. Moreover, an overwhelming majority of hunters support proposals like background checks to purchase guns, keeping military style assault weapons off our streets and the elimination of cop killer bullets.

In recent years, extreme political positions purporting to support gun rights have jeopardized our sport and have hurt the image of responsible gun owners. Unless the sporting community can become unified behind an organization that fights for safe and responsible hunting and shooting practices and sensible gun ownership, future generations may be unable to participate in and enjoy the shooting sports.

So, they support renewing an Assault Weapons Ban and the elimination of Cop Killer Bullets. Clarity is achieved.

In reality, the Cop Killer Bullet issue is an invention of Senator Kennedy and a series of bills and amendments he has proposed over the years. See Senate Amendment 1615 and Senate Amendment 2619. He attempts to confuse people about the differences between body armor, which protects people, and armor piercing ammunition, which is designed to penetrate vehicle armor plating. Even the Fraternal Order of Police says that

The truth of the matter is that only one law enforcement officer has been killed by a round fired from a handgun which penetrated his soft body armor--and in that single instance, it was the body armor that failed to provide the expected ballistic protection, not because the round was "armor piercing."

It is our view that no expansion or revision of the current law is needed to protect law enforcement officers. To put it simply, this is not a genuine officer safety issue.

in a letter to Senator Craig.

For more information on the 'Cop Killer Bullet' issue, see Neal Knox on SA2619.

How Are They Being Used
Already the Citizens for a Safe Minnesota is trumpeting the AHSA organization (as if it really was) saying that 'Sportsmen fed up with the NRA'.

Final Analysis
This group is a gun control advocacy group that is masquerading as a gun rights group. There is every indication that they are a suborganization of the Democratic party. They are even in the same building as the Democratic Leadership Council. They will be happy to take money from gullible gun owners and use it against them and us.

The real goal is to fracture the power of the NRA before the next presidential election so the Democrats face a less formidable opponent.

In no way is the gun rights block a monolithic voting block. Some will love this group; some will be deceived by it. Make no mistake. They are the enemy of the Constitution.

Other Writing About the AHSA
John Lott

John Lott - Democrats change registration of fake website used to support gun control policies

NRA-ILA Digger's Corner


Countertop Chronicles

The War on Guns - article about Crime Gun Solutions

The War on Guns - article about AHSA
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