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Posted: 11/19/2012 4:32:21 PM EST

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:34:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 4:35:30 PM EST by steve2071]
Does anyone else think that the HKp30 looks like a gun spiderman would use?
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:36:02 PM EST


Most awesome weapon.



Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:36:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 4:36:35 PM EST by SuperMoose]
I have a P30 and P2000 with the LEM trigger. I need a USP Compact...

P2000 was my first handgun and first carry piece. It was replaced on carry duty by the P30.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:37:49 PM EST
HK P30 9mm Light LEM crew checking in
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:43:16 PM EST
You guys Rasist aganst DA/SA lovers.. If not can I hang out??



Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:46:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 4:46:59 PM EST by Vne]
I possess a usp 40 compact lem... and I hate it. The mag release can't be actuated by the thumb without breaking my grip, the trigger sucks and the slide release is too easy to inadvertantly depress. Damn gun is an ergonomic nightmare. But it is reasonably accurate when the trigger isn't fuckin it up and it does go bang every time. I'll take my s&w m&p 45 any day or even a walther ppq.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:47:09 PM EST
I have a .40 LEM USP and am not impressed. Keep forgetting to sell it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:48:12 PM EST
Are those Glock clones?
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:49:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By SS109:
I have a .40 LEM USP and am not impressed. Keep forgetting to sell it.


I have a P2000 in 9mm with the LEM. I feel the same way. Way too much play in a trigger that feels too big. I need to sell mine too.

But then I no haz 9mm :(
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:51:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 4:51:46 PM EST by KentuckyWindage82]
Originally Posted By RetroRevolver77:
Are those Glock clones?


Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:52:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By SS109:
I have a .40 LEM USP and am not impressed. Keep forgetting to sell it.


Well that's your problem. It's in .40

Originally Posted By Slateman:
Originally Posted By SS109:
I have a .40 LEM USP and am not impressed. Keep forgetting to sell it.


I have a P2000 in 9mm with the LEM. I feel the same way. Way too much play in a trigger that feels too big. I need to sell mine too.

But then I no haz 9mm :(


How much you want for it?
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:54:42 PM EST
Or the awesomeness that was the LAM

The 90s were a fun time

you youngin's don't realize how good you got it with yer standardized rails and $100 3oz light/laser combos





Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:55:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By SuperMoose:
I need a USP Compact...



That's what she said.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:56:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By RetroRevolver77:
Are those Glock clones?





I should sell them for 5 or 6 Glocks?



Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:56:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By USPcompact:
Originally Posted By SuperMoose:
I need a USP Compact...



That's what she said.



No, she said she wanted my P2000.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:58:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By SuperMoose:
Originally Posted By USPcompact:
Originally Posted By SuperMoose:
I need a USP Compact...



That's what she said.



No, she said she wanted my P2000.


Watersports. Kinky.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:59:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By RetroRevolver77:
Are those Glock clones?


I'm sorry...I don't see any pin to pull.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:06:38 PM EST
If they were not such giant pieces of shit, I would buy one.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:07:28 PM EST
Where did you get the Chopper patch?



Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:09:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By steve2071:
Does anyone else think that the HKp30 looks like a gun spiderman would use?


Though that since i first saw it lol
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:10:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 5:15:11 PM EST by CaribouLou45]
Yep.




Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:19:17 PM EST
its hard to believe that the same company that made the wonderfully designed P7 makes guns this ugly today.

how do you go backwards in terms of low bore axis and grip placement?


Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:28:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 5:33:32 PM EST by 1811guy]
I never understood the LEM trigger. I do know it was developed for the now defunct INS under the procurement contract for the HK USPc in .40 S&W. It was a damned fine carry gun at the time, and a vast improvement over the Beretta 96D (aka, the burrito) although I never cared for the overly long take up. As an instructor, I taught the other agents to shoot it like a two stage trigger, and that helped them immensely in getting used to the LEM trigger. The release and reset were very nice (considering what the gun was made for), and double taps were easy to do with it. After the merger and creation of ICE, I was thoroughly disappointed with the abomination that is now the Sig 229 DAK. That is one effed up gun. Heavy, impossible to conceal, terrible trigger, and a failure rate that almost surpasses the Beretta 96D.

For anyone out there who thinks the triggers on any of those guns is something desireable, I am sorry to disappoint you/ offend you by besmirching the triggers on these guns. The real reason the triggers exist is because it was specified in a .gov contract to make the muckety mucks feel better about the lowest common denominator of an armed officer carrying them. The goal was, afterall, to make the triggers as revolver like as possible because it was thought such a trigger is "safer". Good marketing ensured the time their R&D put into the trigger made them some extra money. Not unlike touting the NY trigger in the Glocks as something desireable because a well known LEA uses it. The LEM trigger was the best of the three though, and was even somewhat useable. The USPc in .40 was just a damned nice pistol and as accurate as they come in spite of the 3.5" barrel, high sight profile, and tolerable LEM trigger.

I sent over 35k rounds through 3 LEM equipped USPc's before I finally had to turn my last one in for the 229. Fortunately, I was able to buy a new LEM equipped USPc with 6 mags and night sights for the special INS officer price of $600. I later converted it to a DA/SA trigger and have been greatly pleased with it ever since.

ETA - I was fortunate enough to carry an HK P7M13 in my first LE job. Those guns are without a doubt the best engineered and most accurate service pistol I have encountered. The only thing I do not like about them is the heat generated from the gas retardation system. The plastic heat shield helps a little bit, but I still got burned by the SOB several times during long strings of fire in training. Way cool gun, and worth every penny when you can find one that has been cared for.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 6:43:23 PM EST
not a fan of the lem trigger, sold my usp that i got for 400 specifically because of that trigger. cocked and locked or nothing.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 6:45:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 6:50:21 PM EST by FMJshooter]
Originally Posted By KentuckyWindage82:
Originally Posted By RetroRevolver77:
Are those Glock clones?




Look more like hi point clones to me.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 6:48:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By wtturn:
HK P30L 9mm Light LEM crew checking in


Fixed and in.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:45:20 AM EST
Just found another reason to hate the H&K USPc 40 lem. It's got a damn computer chip attached to a coiled antenae in the grip. Im on my way to my bunker now to don some tinfoil. You all are gonna want to keep your distance from me now. Shits about to get real. I think I can hear the silent choppers now...
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:55:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By HK_farmer:
Originally Posted By wtturn:
HK P30L 9mm Light LEM crew checking in


Fixed and in.

That's on my list.

Those are hard to find, apparently
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:56:31 AM EST
Lem triggers are trash with there three feet of pull.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:57:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By RetroRevolver77:
Are those Glock clones?


Those are what all Glocks want to be when they grow up.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:00:02 PM EST
Originally Posted By KentuckyWindage82:
Originally Posted By RetroRevolver77:
Are those Glock clones?




No, they are PPQ Clones...
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:00:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
If they were not such giant pieces of shit, I would buy one.



That is probably the only time an HK handgun has ever been referred to as a giant piece of shit. What do you shoot?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:02:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 12:03:45 PM EST by BushBoar]
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:04:00 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:04:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By steve2071:
Does anyone else think that the HKp30 looks like a gun spiderman would use?


the grip feels like happiness though
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:05:07 PM EST
I'll hold out another 5 years for the "superlight LEM extended edition with triggerguard not sized for Smurfs."
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:52:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By bg10:
Originally Posted By steve2071:
Does anyone else think that the HKp30 looks like a gun spiderman would use?


the grip feels like happiness though

My HK45 Fullsize is a dream to shoot. I would carry that thing before I would carry any 1911 because it works. Now I have been carrying my G19 a lot lately because I have been CCing a lot.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:58:07 PM EST


nice pistolas... who makes that PC in the background?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:58:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By mcantu:
its hard to believe that the same company that made the wonderfully designed P7 makes guns this ugly today.

how do you go backwards in terms of low bore axis and grip placement?


https://imageshack.us/a/img48/6920/kfhkp7m8md5.jpg



Times changed. Cheap McGuns rule the day.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 2:03:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By BushBoar:

Originally Posted By mcantu:
its hard to believe that the same company that made the wonderfully designed P7 makes guns this ugly today.

how do you go backwards in terms of low bore axis and grip placement?


https://imageshack.us/a/img48/6920/kfhkp7m8md5.jpg

LOVE the P7 with wood grips. I need to get one someday.


I just want some more mags for mine. Damn $65 a mag for a single stack gun is steep.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 2:31:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By bg10:
Originally Posted By steve2071:
Does anyone else think that the HKp30 looks like a gum spiderman would use?


the grip feels like happiness though


Nay, it's an orgasm in the hand.





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