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Posted: 8/20/2017 10:09:47 PM EDT
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I'm fine with this outcome.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 10:11:08 PM EDT
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Not a fan of either of these candidates, but I think having a minion of Mitch McConnell in that seat would be a very bad idea.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 10:11:35 PM EDT
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<---not surprised.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 10:21:35 PM EDT
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I think Moore will win in a landslide. As I've mentioned on other threads, about 70% of the GOP electorate is now "anti-establishment" as demonstrated by the cumulative support given to candidates perceived as outsiders (Trump, Carson, and Cruz).
The 70% number held in the primary. Strange, the appropriately named establishment stooge, got only 30%. I don't think his voters are very motivated. Moore's are. And most of the Brooks voters will likely support Moore as well. I'd be surprised if Trump weighs in much more on this race. Him supporting Strange earlier might have been a "I'll support you if you support me" message that was given in contrast to the one he is giving Flake in Arizona. Plus I read where Brooks may not have been supportive of Trump early on, which might have been a consideration as well. But even more important is the spiritual aspect to this. It's like God hit the pause button by putting Trump in office. Next, He might be ready to send His man to the Senate to proclaim the Truth and call out all of the liars and hypocrites. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 10:35:28 PM EDT
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If Brooks endorses anyone, I suspect it will be Moore.
I don't see him making nice with Luther Strange after he basically just outright lied about Brooks in several of his campaign commercials. Why did you know that Brooks, the guy with one of the most conservative voting records in the House, supports Nancy Pelosi and ISIS? |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:14:15 AM EDT
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If Brooks endorses anyone, I suspect it will be Moore. I don't see him making nice with Luther Strange after he basically just outright lied about Brooks in several of his campaign commercials. Why did you know that Brooks, the guy with one of the most conservative voting records in the House, supports Nancy Pelosi and ISIS? Roy Moore actually hates Jesus and kicks puppies. He called John Wayne AND Bear Bryant faggots. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:17:29 AM EDT
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I'd vote for a tomato before voting for another establishment tool. I imagine a lot of other voters are done with establishment lackeys.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:58:37 AM EDT
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That's nothing. Roy Moore actually hates Jesus and kicks puppies. He called John Wayne AND Bear Bryant faggots. Besides, anyone that would give themselves a nickname like "Big" Luther Strange has to be a complete tool. Hopefully Big Strange Luther will be headed home shortly. The funny thing is that he ran for Attorney General so that he could set up and run for Governor before Session's senate seat opened up and the plan changed. If this election goes the way it looks, he will go home as a regular citizen. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:57:23 AM EDT
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That's nothing. Roy Moore actually hates Jesus and kicks puppies. He called John Wayne AND Bear Bryant faggots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Brooks endorses anyone, I suspect it will be Moore. I don't see him making nice with Luther Strange after he basically just outright lied about Brooks in several of his campaign commercials. Why did you know that Brooks, the guy with one of the most conservative voting records in the House, supports Nancy Pelosi and ISIS? Roy Moore actually hates Jesus and kicks puppies. He called John Wayne AND Bear Bryant faggots. 
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:05:05 PM EDT
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Boy, if you could get that one to stick... Talk about a sure fire way to guarantee your opponent would lose the election in this state. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Brooks endorses anyone, I suspect it will be Moore. I don't see him making nice with Luther Strange after he basically just outright lied about Brooks in several of his campaign commercials. Why did you know that Brooks, the guy with one of the most conservative voting records in the House, supports Nancy Pelosi and ISIS? Roy Moore actually hates Jesus and kicks puppies. He called John Wayne AND Bear Bryant faggots. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:30:23 PM EDT
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I think Trump will stay quiet on this race. I don't think he wants McConnell's guy to win. I think he supported him for show to a) have McConnell be indebted to him, and b) payback against Mo Brooks for being nasty to him.
I don't know much about these guys, but it looks like Moore is a better choice. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:36:46 PM EDT
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I'd vote for a tomato before voting for another establishment tool. I imagine a lot of other voters are done with establishment lackeys. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:42:37 PM EDT
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I REALLY hope this anti-establishment trend widens and continues. We need to get these RINO fucksticks out of office.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:46:15 PM EDT
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I REALLY hope this anti-establishment trend widens and continues. We need to get these RINO fucksticks out of office. You want to see it happen, then DO SOMETHING. Give cash to the right candidates. Ring doorbells. Put up signs. Trump CAN NOT DO IT ALONE. WE ALL HAVE TO DRAIN THE DAMN SWAMP. 
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:52:09 PM EDT
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Is this a good or a bad thing? I don't know shit about Alabama politics.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:59:35 PM EDT
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Is this a good or a bad thing? I don't know shit about Alabama politics. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:11:35 PM EDT
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Is this a good or a bad thing? I don't know shit about Alabama politics. Luther Strange is a wholly owned subsidiary of Mitch McConnell Inc. So him being 19 points down is a good thing. Former Judge Roy Moore is about as anti-establishment as they come, and definitely more conservative than Strange. However, he's a bit of a Bible thumper. More than a bit actually. He was impeached from his state supreme court judge position for refusing to remove a copy of the Ten Commandments from his courtroom. He also refused to certify gay marriages or something like that. I'll take Moore over a McConnell stooge any day. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:26:31 PM EDT
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Not a fan of either of these candidates, but I think having a minion of Mitch McConnell in that seat would be a very bad idea. I was leaning toward Brooks, but I'm glad Uncle Mitch's butt boy is trailing. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:27:21 PM EDT
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And to think Sessions gave up a safe seat
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:32:16 PM EDT
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Bit of a mixed bag. Luther Strange is a wholly owned subsidiary of Mitch McConnell Inc. So him being 19 points down is a good thing. Former Judge Roy Moore is about as anti-establishment as they come, and definitely more conservative than Strange. However, he's a bit of a Bible thumper. More than a bit actually. He was impeached from his state supreme court judge position for refusing to remove a copy of the Ten Commandments from his courtroom. He also refused to certify gay marriages or something like that. I'll take Moore over a McConnell stooge any day. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:32:54 PM EDT
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I'll take Moore over Strange, no hesitation.
My only concern is Democrats en masse voting Strange. #NeverStrange |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:38:19 PM EDT
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Not a fan of Moore, but I'll vote for him over another McConnell butt boy. Someone told me the other day McConnell's last choice was Moore, but I haven't seen that in writing anywhere. Either way, a McConnell endorsement losing his seat might make the rest of the RINOs a little nervous, hopefully.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:21:08 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see how money is spent in this runoff.
Primary spending from memory: Direct Spending (Candidate's own campaign spending) Luther Strange $2.9M Mo Brooks $500k Roy Moore $450k Mitch McConnell's PAC spending on Luther Strange's behalf - $10M Those numbers are rounded, not to the dollar exact but they aren't very far off. So Strange outspent Brooks and Moore by about 26:1 each, with the vast majority of that coming from McConnell's PAC. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:29:10 PM EDT
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Is this a good or a bad thing? I don't know shit about Alabama politics. West Point graduate, former professional kickboxer, lawyer. He likes a good fight. He was fired from AL Supreme Court because he wouldn't instruct the court to honor gay marriages, and wouldn't remove a ten commandments monument. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:35:22 PM EDT
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I'll take Moore over Strange, no hesitation. My only concern is Democrats en masse voting Strange. #NeverStrange |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:35:58 PM EDT
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You, me, and millions of others! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd vote for a tomato before voting for another establishment tool. I imagine a lot of other voters are done with establishment lackeys. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:39:39 PM EDT
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I'll take Moore over Strange, no hesitation. My only concern is Democrats en masse voting Strange. #NeverStrange  Yep 
You walk in, they ask Republican or Democratic, then check you off on the voter roll. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:48:57 PM EDT
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You walk in, they ask Republican or Democratic, then check you off on the voter roll. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll take Moore over Strange, no hesitation. My only concern is Democrats en masse voting Strange. #NeverStrange Yep
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:50:41 PM EDT
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Yep. Strange would sell his own mother to get that seat. Even if he were not in Mitch McConnell's hip pocket, I don't want a guy in office that wants it that bad. Besides, anyone that would give themselves a nickname like "Big" Luther Strange has to be a complete tool. Hopefully Big Strange Luther will be headed home shortly. The funny thing is that he ran for Attorney General so that he could set up and run for Governor before Session's senate seat opened up and the plan changed. If this election goes the way it looks, he will go home as a regular citizen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's nothing. Roy Moore actually hates Jesus and kicks puppies. He called John Wayne AND Bear Bryant faggots. Besides, anyone that would give themselves a nickname like "Big" Luther Strange has to be a complete tool. Hopefully Big Strange Luther will be headed home shortly. The funny thing is that he ran for Attorney General so that he could set up and run for Governor before Session's senate seat opened up and the plan changed. If this election goes the way it looks, he will go home as a regular citizen. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:52:27 PM EDT
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Although they did change the rules this year. I don't recall the details, but if you voted in the Democrat primary you might be ineligible to vote in the Republican runoff. Not sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll take Moore over Strange, no hesitation. My only concern is Democrats en masse voting Strange. #NeverStrange Yep
You walk in, they ask Republican or Democratic, then check you off on the voter roll. Theres just a big list of names, and they place a checkmark next to yours when you receive your ballot (after checking ID), unless there are two boxes... or they are just relying on the honor system |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:57:08 PM EDT
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"Home" is d.c as a lobbyist. He omits that from his resume. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:00:38 PM EDT
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Yep. Guy was a K Street lobbyist for about 8 years before becoming State AG. That's why he had $2.9M in his direct campaign war chest vs the half million apiece that Brooks and Moore had. Most of his was out of state money from his K street buddies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:12:24 PM EDT
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Yep, people forget that little fact, or at least its overshadowed by appearance of impropriety when he got that Senate Seat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Home" is d.c as a lobbyist. He omits that from his resume. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:20:28 PM EDT
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I don't know how'd they'd implement that at my polling place. Theres just a big list of names, and they place a checkmark next to yours when you receive your ballot (after checking ID), unless there are two boxes... or they are just relying on the honor system Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll take Moore over Strange, no hesitation. My only concern is Democrats en masse voting Strange. #NeverStrange Yep
You walk in, they ask Republican or Democratic, then check you off on the voter roll. Theres just a big list of names, and they place a checkmark next to yours when you receive your ballot (after checking ID), unless there are two boxes... or they are just relying on the honor system |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:50:12 PM EDT
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That's crazy. Anyone trying to change the open primary fiasco? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll take Moore over Strange, no hesitation. My only concern is Democrats en masse voting Strange. #NeverStrange Yep
You walk in, they ask Republican or Democratic, then check you off on the voter roll. Theres just a big list of names, and they place a checkmark next to yours when you receive your ballot (after checking ID), unless there are two boxes... or they are just relying on the honor system Alabama politics is as dirty as anywhere in the Nation, the worst parts of "machine politics" the "ole boys club" and "identity politics" coupled with corruption and graft on a level that should be impossible for our meager economic ability. Look into the Jefferson County Municipal Bankruptcy (and the Sewer System), JeffCo is the containing county for Birmingham. Alabama does corruption on a level that would make Chicago and New York blush. |
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