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Posted: 10/16/2004 5:12:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 5:48:30 PM EST by 2A373]
Here's what happens when someone does not connect the hold back device correctly when performing a full power engine run inside a hush house.




Please post any that you have.


Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:17:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 5:22:53 PM EST by DavidC]
A personal favorite...

Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:19:04 PM EST
Oh that poor baby...
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:19:43 PM EST
F-15?
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:20:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 5:20:12 PM EST by ARDunstan]
Nothing a little Bondo can't fix.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:20:29 PM EST
a micromesh kit will take all that out...
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:21:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
F-15?



yup.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:21:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 5:22:51 PM EST by Greenhorn]

Originally Posted By DavidC:
A personal favorite...




Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:25:52 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:28:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's what happens when someone does not connect the hold back device correctly when performing a full power engine run inside a hush house.


[HOMER]DOH!!!!!![/HOMER]

Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:40:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
www.uss-bennington.org/pics/phz-nowing-f15.jpg

landed like that.... www.uss-bennington.org/phz-nowing-f15.html

www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album43/aco.jpg




Another picture of this one.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:41:11 PM EST


Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:52:36 PM EST
AWACS that hit a deer on the runway.



Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:53:56 PM EST
Damn thats a nice buck.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:54:57 PM EST
holy crap, nice rack on the deer
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:55:48 PM EST
12 pt
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:57:43 PM EST
YUK!
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:58:20 PM EST
I wonder who got the head to have it mounted
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:04:00 PM EST




A KC-135 Aircraft was being pressurized at ground level. The outflow valves which are used to regulate the pressure of the aircraft were capped off during a 5 year overhaul and never opened back up. The post-investigation revealed: that a civilian depot technician who, "had always done it that way," was using a homemade gauge, and no procedure.
The technician's gauge didn't even have a max "peg" for the needle and so it was no surprise he missed it when the needle went around the gauge the first time. As the technician continued to pressurize the aircraft, and as the needle was on its second trip around the gauge the aircraft went "boom" - the rear hatch was blown over 70 yards away, behind a blast fence!


Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:04:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:07:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 6:09:42 PM EST by Planerench]

Originally Posted By johnnyrebel:
12 pt



You only count one side out west. 6 point.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:08:57 PM EST
I remember when that F-15 went into the doors. Everybody at my base was briefed on how to properly secure the arresting hook to the hold back assembly, then we passed around those pics and had a good smart ass remark for the nervous 7 levels.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:10:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:15:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Assuming the F-15's engines weren't FODed, I'd estimate the damage to the plane in the 75,000 dollar class, at a guess. Maybe more depending on the condition of the radome and any internal damage that's not visible.

I'm SURE the guy who failed to connect the retainers correctly got more than an Article 15!

CJ



Air Force releases F-15 ground accident report
01/18/01 - ROYAL AIR FORCE LAKENHEATH, England (AFPN) -- Air Force officials completed the investigation of a ground-test aircraft accident that occurred here Aug. 11. The accident, which involved an F-15E Strike Eagle fighter aircraft and an engine testing facility, has been designated a "Class A" accident, which means it resulted in more than $1 million of damage.
One airman sustained minor injuries. No other military or civilian personnel were injured.
The Accident Investigation Board found that during a ground test of the F-15E's jet engines, the aircraft's arresting hook disconnected from the holdback assembly, allowing the aircraft to roll forward and collide with the door of the testing facility.
Investigators determined the accident was caused by a failure to properly connect the holdback assembly to the aircraft's arresting hook.
The aircraft is being repaired and will be returned to flight operations.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:16:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:
AWACS that hit a deer on the runway.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-537s.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-568s.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-542s.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-541s.jpg



I wasn't reading the captions, and my first though was "Oh, nose gear snaped on landing, and hydrolic (sp) fluid sprayed every where, not so bad." [keep scrolling down] "Why on earth did he post a pic of half a deer?.......Oh..."
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:19:21 PM EST
So if you trash a airplane that badly what is your punishment in the military?
I'd assume in the private sector you would be red flagged for life?
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:19:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 6:26:39 PM EST by eaglebite]
Here is a link to the report: Class A Mishap.

* MGM: "...Hey, how's this pin go?"

* MEO: "What pin?"

* MGM: "The big pin, it's not going in right...I'm not sure...I'm gonna ask the Hush House guy [referring to the console operator]."

Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:20:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:40:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 6:47:22 PM EST by tangeant]

Originally Posted By twonami:
So if you trash a airplane that badly what is your punishment in the military?
I'd assume in the private sector you would be red flagged for life?



They did basically nothing to the SP who fell asleep and drove his car under that F15. What happens depends on the unit and who does the bad thing, as long as no one is killed it is usually hushed up or excused away as improper training etc.
I've seen a couple of stupid maintenance accidents " driving off with the power cart or Huffer with them still plugged into plane ", Jacking planes into doors etc " and they did nothing beyond maybe a " slap on the wrist " or LOC/LOR to those responsible...for fear of totally ruining a career.

When someone gets killed doing something totally stupid like the GAC guy who squashed himself in a C17 spoiler than the shit really hits the fan and heads roll...
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:44:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Breycor:

Originally Posted By 2A373:
AWACS that hit a deer on the runway.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-537s.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-568s.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-542s.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-541s.jpg



So no one has commented on all those white round "spots"?



I'm assuming water. The tarmac looks wet. Like it had been raining.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:49:25 PM EST


Nice buck ! Did the crew have the head mounted ?
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:53:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:
AWACS that hit a deer on the runway.



So thats what they mean by "deer in the headlights look"
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 8:01:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's what happens when someone does not connect the hold back device correctly when performing a full power engine run inside a hush house.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-004f.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/hhr-010f.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/hhr-005f.jpg

Please post any that you have.





Man I miss Lakenheath. I'll have to dig out the pics of the E model that cartwheeled off the runway and scan them on here.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 8:17:14 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 2:22:03 AM EST
My son works on F-16 ejection seats. A while back somebody working a few birds down fired a canopy off in the maintenance hanger. 5 or 6 birds being worked on at the time. My son said there was a lot of extra laundry done that night
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 7:07:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 2:56:43 PM EST
The door was latched properly, the latches failed during very high G testing.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 3:11:36 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 3:15:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
The latest in air-cooled avionics?

Failure on the part of a maintainer, or failure of a handful of fasteners at the same time?

I wonder if the crew even noticed when the panel fell off? I'd guess they did, but mostly due to a change in the character of the wind noise.

CJ



Failure of the latches during high G aileron rolls.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 3:34:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By pieeater:
Damn thats a nice buck.



That's only half a buck.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 3:39:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 3:44:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
The latest in air-cooled avionics?

Failure on the part of a maintainer, or failure of a handful of fasteners at the same time?

I wonder if the crew even noticed when the panel fell off? I'd guess they did, but mostly due to a change in the character of the wind noise.

CJ



"Hey, why are the guys in the camera plane waving at us?", "Heckifino, wave back!"

Link Posted: 10/17/2004 3:48:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
The latest in air-cooled avionics?

Failure on the part of a maintainer, or failure of a handful of fasteners at the same time?

I wonder if the crew even noticed when the panel fell off? I'd guess they did, but mostly due to a change in the character of the wind noise.

CJ



The crew would really notice when that door flew down the intake tube and shell out the engine. I can see by the way the #2 ramp is sitting in the "emergency" position, that the crew does indeed know something is wrong.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 4:01:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Searcherfortruth:

Originally Posted By pieeater:
Damn thats a nice buck.



That's only half a buck.



Here's the other half,
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 4:19:13 PM EST
Here's what happens when the linkage that turns the landing gear wheel on a F-15 fails. The main landing gear wheels turn 90 degrees when the landing gear retracts. Damn good pilot to have kept the aircraft on the runway.




Link Posted: 10/17/2004 4:25:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
www.uss-bennington.org/pics/phz-nowing-f15.jpg

landed like that.... www.uss-bennington.org/phz-nowing-f15.html

www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album43/aco.jpg




That story seems odd. Do F15's have the ability to land on carriers? That picture looks like it was taken on an airfield.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 4:28:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's what happens when someone does not connect the hold back device correctly when performing a full power engine run inside a hush house.




I'll bet somebody was in DEEP trouble for that one.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 4:35:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Breycor:
So no one has commented on all those white round "spots"?



You mean the ORBS???
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 4:36:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:

Originally Posted By Searcherfortruth:

Originally Posted By pieeater:
Damn thats a nice buck.



That's only half a buck.



Here's the other half,
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/Mvc-547s.jpg




So thats what a fifty cent piece looks like...........'


Link Posted: 10/17/2004 6:41:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's what happens when the linkage that turns the landing gear wheel on a F-15 fails. The main landing gear wheels turn 90 degrees when the landing gear retracts. Damn good pilot to have kept the aircraft on the runway.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/MVC-003S.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/MVC-002S.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/MVC-001S.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/MVC-007S.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/nanneya/MVC-010S.jpg



Not too much damage there, actually. It could have been much worse, but all the plane needs is a new left main landing gear assembly. Notice how the airframe itself isn't damaged at all and the very replaceable wheel had been grinding until it it the hydro lines for the brakes. The extreme heat from the carbon brakes can light up that hydro like gasoline if you aren't careful.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 8:32:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By m193:

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
www.uss-bennington.org/pics/phz-nowing-f15.jpg

landed like that.... www.uss-bennington.org/phz-nowing-f15.html

www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album43/aco.jpg




That story seems odd. Do F15's have the ability to land on carriers? That picture looks like it was taken on an airfield.



No, the F-15 isn't structurally capable of taking a carrier landing more than once. Not only that, but it lacks a hold-back bar, for a cat shot.

That submarined car reminded me of an accident we had at my base about 4 years ago. A line rat was driving a tow tractor and had a siezure of some sort. She drove right into a parked EA-6B, and broke her neck.
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