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I saw a Smithsonian documentary about the 747 recently. They had an Air Force One pilot talking about the plane, and when he mentioned the classified defenses Air Force One has... well I don't know why, but I got the distinct impression that it might have offensive weaponry on board. Not just countermeasures, but offensive weapons. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense. I figure it would be fairly easy to retrofit a 747 with a retractable gun turret or a weapons bay with missiles.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:46:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 10:55:55 PM EST by Tim_the_enchanter]
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:46:15 PM EST
If it did, no one that knew would talk about it here.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:46:30 PM EST
speculating, of course.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:47:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 10:47:44 PM EST by ma96782]
I'm thinking that Air Force One would fly with fighter escort(s).
Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:48:43 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By ma96782:
I'm thinking that Air Force One would fly with fighter escort(s). Aloha, Mark It doesn't always. In fact, it frequently doesn't. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:48:56 PM EST
When threatened, it turns into a big-assed robot. Nick
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:50:16 PM EST
I'm not sure about Air Force One, but this is President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho's plane....
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:51:30 PM EST
I wouldn't imagine it would, but I'm pretty sure the fighter escorts have that capability...;)
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:59:11 PM EST
They have door gunners.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:01:10 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Frank_The_Tank:
They have door gunners. Like space shuttles? |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:01:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 12:49:21 AM EST by AeroE]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IL2windhawk:
It doesn't always. In fact, it frequently doesn't. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IL2windhawk:
Originally Posted By ma96782:
I'm thinking that Air Force One would fly with fighter escort(s). Aloha, Mark It doesn't always. In fact, it frequently doesn't. They're not going to fly formation for show, they're on high over watch. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:01:43 PM EST
Beware the 747 out of the sun.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:01:44 PM EST
A gun turret would be defensive. No, why would it have offensive weapons?? Unless you consider the "football" onboard as an offensive weapon.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:07:14 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By packinheavy:
If it did, no one that knew would talk about it here. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:08:00 PM EST
Nope.
D only.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:08:33 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Number0neGun:
Like space shuttles? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Number0neGun:
Originally Posted By Frank_The_Tank:
They have door gunners. Like space shuttles? Yep! |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:10:44 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Frank_The_Tank:
They have door gunners. That is the space shuttle |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:14:40 PM EST
Well they would certainly be defensive, but I get what you mean. Weapons rather than countermeasures.
I don't know and imagine no one is saying, but I do know that Hawker Siddeley Nimrods were retrofitted with Sidewinders during the Falklands ass kicking. 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:17:41 PM EST
It has an escape pod.
 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:18:52 PM EST
Don't know about that, but it has a hot tub.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:20:16 PM EST
And Marine One has a Starbucks Barista.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:23:00 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By edcurtis:
I'm not sure about Air Force One, but this is President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho's plane.... http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090902003919/jets/images/3/31/AC-130A_pylon_turn.jpg And President Comacho himself manning the door gun. 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:24:05 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By packinheavy:
If it did, no one that knew would talk about it here. I have a lovely salsa recipe. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:24:53 PM EST
I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities?
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:25:54 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 4v50:
I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities? Smuckers |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:26:54 PM EST
Ronnie would clean their clocks at 1,000 yards.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:27:39 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Depidy_Dawg:
Smuckers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Depidy_Dawg:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities? Smuckers 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:27:44 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 4v50:
I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities? I'd be shocked if it didn't. I think it would be easy to add some sidewinders inside a hidden weapons bay. I doubt it has radar-guided missiles, but IR missiles would be an easy mod. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:29:15 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 44Regular:
Ronnie would clean their clocks at 1,000 yards. http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/C18587-24.jpg Damn I miss that man! |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:30:15 PM EST
They took the internal weapons bay out when they put the mini putting green in.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:32:23 PM EST
No weapons, no escape pod. At least that is the "official" reply. That doesn't mean it doesn't have these things, only that they declare it as such.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:34:30 PM EST
There is a water bed in the nose. When under attack the water is pumped outside to make a cloud the plane can hide behind.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:36:30 PM EST
Not sure if it would be allowed into other country's airspace if it did. But then again, that would be quite an international incident if they refused.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:51:17 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By retgarr:
Well they would certainly be defensive, but I get what you mean. Weapons rather than countermeasures. I don't know and imagine no one is saying, but I do know that Hawker Siddeley Nimrods were retrofitted with Sidewinders during the Falklands ass kicking. http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/931349NimrodMR2PMalouines.jpg Sidewinders are awesome, and relatively easy to retrofit or integrate into an aircraft. I think everyone should have them! 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:51:56 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By packinheavy:
If it did, no one that knew would talk about it here. SPNI |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:52:52 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By sterling18:
Not sure if it would be allowed into other country's airspace if it did. But then again, that would be quite an international incident if they refused. Well, the flight of F15's is... |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:55:06 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By ZoomieFoosh: A gun turret would be defensive. No, why would it have offensive weapons?? Unless you consider the "football" onboard as an offensive weapon. Passive defense being defending yourself via evasion, stealth, maneuvering, armor, countermeasures, etc. (Like popping flares/chaff, radar jamming, etc).
Active Defense being weapons that defend yourself by killing what is a threat to you.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:56:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 11:57:57 PM EST by Blackgun_Fun]
Rumor has it that chaff and flare countermeasures have been replaced by "K-FOD" systems (Kinetic Foreign Object Defense)
dispensers. System is activated by a "Bogey" - thousands of golf-balls are dumped out a special deployment system into then enemies flight path. 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:58:06 PM EST
What would you shoot at, exactly? I doubt any country is stupid enough to shoot it down with a fighter, which leaves guerrillas with shitty ancient Soviet MANPAD systems.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:59:15 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Depidy_Dawg:
Smuckers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Depidy_Dawg:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities? Smuckers Only one man would dare give me the raspberry! |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:01:28 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By GTwannabe:
What would you shoot at, exactly? I doubt any country is stupid enough to shoot it down with a fighter, which leaves guerrillas with shitty ancient Soviet MANPAD systems. Like those Ukrainian rebels. |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:23:32 AM EST
The cargo is pretty fucking offensive.
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:30:09 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By threedogs:
The cargo is pretty fucking offensive. /thread |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:30:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By IL2windhawk:
I saw a Smithsonian documentary about the 747 recently. They had an Air Force One pilot talking about the plane, and when he mentioned the classified defenses Air Force One has... well I don't know why, but I got the distinct impression that it might have offensive weaponry on board. Not just countermeasures, but offensive weapons. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense. I figure it would be fairly easy to retrofit a 747 with a retractable gun turret or a weapons bay with missiles. 
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:37:26 AM EST
This might sound stupid but...It's a giant flying house. How hard could it be to disguise a rotary launcher for some AIM-9's? I don't know either way, but it would make some sense to have offensive weapons.
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:40:59 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Matt_The_Hokie:
This might sound stupid but...It's a giant flying house. How hard could it be to disguise a rotary launcher for some AIM-9's? I don't know either way, but it would make some sense to have offensive weapons. 
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:42:51 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 4v50:
I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities? I wouldn't be surprised if it had a full electronic warfare suite on board. |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:46:38 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By salmonid:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By salmonid:
Originally Posted By Matt_The_Hokie:
This might sound stupid but...It's a giant flying house. How hard could it be to disguise a rotary launcher for some AIM-9's? I don't know either way, but it would make some sense to have offensive weapons. Glad I am not the only one who laughed about at the OP. OP, you should feel bad. |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:51:08 AM EST
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I'm not saying its accurate, but I haven't seen into the nose of AF1 and neither have you... |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:59:16 AM EST
AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.
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