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Posted: 10/11/2004 5:47:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 5:52:04 AM EST by olyarms]
How is it possible to be two things at once?
Just curious.
Edit: I have black friends but just curious about this, here it all the time and kind of pisses me off.
Can I be German-American, no being I am not german I may have roots too germany but I myself have never lived there and even if I did I live now in the USA.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:48:38 AM EST
IBTL
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:48:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:49:28 AM EST
As Theresa Kerry.


She's African-American.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:50:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
As Theresa Kerry.


She's African-American.



No, She's Alien-American. That thing can't be human.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:50:49 AM EST
Why are Americans allowed to hold dual citizenship to other countries???
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:50:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By gunman0:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
As Theresa Kerry.


She's African-American.



No, She's Alien-American. That thing can't be human.



No she is an Ugly-Bitch.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:51:05 AM EST
not sure but the scientific name for an african american is negro. just call them that, its not a derogitory nametag

what happens if they are from canada just visiting, or from the caribean or so on..... why do we have to assume because a person is a negro in this country is an american?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:52:42 AM EST
Damn, the haters are out in force this mornin'.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:53:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
As Theresa Kerry.


She's African-American. Socialist European



Fix it for you
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:53:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By tequilabob:
not sure but the scientific name for an african american is negro. just call them that, its not a derogitory nametag

what happens if they are from canada just visiting, or from the caribean or so on..... why do we have to assume because a person is a negro in this country is an american?


LMAO I can be Caucasian but if I called some one a Negro I am a fucking racist.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:54:08 AM EST
I'm American-American.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:55:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By olyarms:
LMAO I can be Caucasian but if I called some one a Negro I am a fucking racist.



No, we pretty much all agree dumbass fits you better.



+1, American American.


American first, last & foremost.


Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:55:45 AM EST
Anyone remember the skating competition in the Olympics last time when the announcer referred to a black Frenchwoman as "the African-American from France"?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:56:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 5:56:39 AM EST by olyarms]

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By olyarms:
LMAO I can be Caucasian but if I called some one a Negro I am a fucking racist.



No, we pretty much all agree dumbass fits you better.



+1, American American.


American first, last & foremost.




Ah thats sweet
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:56:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By olyarms:
LMAO I can be Caucasian but if I called some one a Negro I am a fucking racist.



No, we pretty much all agree dumbass fits you better.



+1, American American.


American first, last & foremost.




Ah thats sweet



Oh, and +1 for dumbass.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:57:29 AM EST
Same way you can have colors like blue-green. The first part modifies the second.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:01:32 AM EST
I'm German-Welsh-Scottish-American.
I score four points.

Mrs. B is German-English-Canadian-American, so she scores four points, too.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:01:35 AM EST
Who had a choice on which race they came from?

OTOH it seems there are groups that would adopt you or shun you over one drop of blood.

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:04:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 6:06:44 AM EST by CajunMojo]
I guess that makes me a Cajun-American, hey, that sounds about as stupid as African American doesn't it? IBTL
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:04:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Who had a choice on which race they came from?

OTOH it seems there are groups that would adopt you or shun you over one drop of blood.



WTF are you talking about, I don't care where you come from, just don't say your african if your american.

Be it you have asian roots good for you but if you live in america you are not asian-american.

Etc Etc
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:06:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 6:06:49 AM EST by mjohn3006]
I am a Scotish, English, Welch, Irish, German, Norweigan, Jewish, American.

Dang. I am bunch of people that hate eachother.

Lats just say I'm American.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:07:26 AM EST
Not being a world traveler like I am, I wonder if the blacks in England call theirselves African-English or the blacks in Canada call theirselves African-Canadian? Never thought about it before. Anyone know?

How about the Mexican-American, Mexican-Canadian, Mexican-English? Curious.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:08:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:11:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By olyarms:
How is it possible to be two things at once?
Just curious.



Are you really that dumb or are you just trolling?

I'm a human, an American, a father, a husband, a retired veteran, a home owner ... and a moderator at AR15.com that's seven whole things at once! Wow! A concept that you should learn when you're five or six in normal development.



Nevermind the point is how can you claim two countries at once.
I think your taking it too much to heart.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:12:03 AM EST
I know a white dude from south africa who is now a US citizen, he IS African-American, but he ain't black, but he is more african, than half the blacks I know who say they are African-American. Chrliez Theron(sp) is African-American, she was IIRC born and raised originaly in south africa. She'd be African-American(well if she became a US citizen).

PC labels are anything but. I bet you if my friend put African-American on an aplication, or on another official document he'd be fucked with, though he really is African-American.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:15:24 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:16:41 AM EST
I don't believe there are very many true African Americans anymore. At least not according to my definition.

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:16:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:22:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:26:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By photoman:
I know a white dude from south africa who is now a US citizen, he IS African-American, but he ain't black, but he is more african, than half the blacks I know who say they are African-American. Chrliez Theron(sp) is African-American, she was IIRC born and raised originaly in south africa. She'd be African-American(well if she became a US citizen).



Not that it makes two shits to me, but no more than anyone could be. We have no control over our parents or the circumstances surrounding our creation, etc.


I was born in America, but I was made right here inside these gates......




Yes its in Africa. While my US Passport is always gold, I couldnt even get inside the gates. Small private compound/ resort-ish.

As if there was something in there I wanted. I wanted a few pics. But nooooooooo.....

Maybe thats where the WMD's are stored????

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:27:49 AM EST


Originally Posted By QuietShootr:


Anyone remember the skating competition in the Olympics last time when the announcer referred to a black Frenchwoman as "the African-American from France"?




That's just too funny
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:28:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
Anyone remember the skating competition in the Olympics last time when the announcer referred to a black Frenchwoman as "the African-American from France"?

November Sierra?



I shit you not...MarianLibrarian and I looked at each other and said WTF?? simultaneously...
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:32:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:40:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By photoman:
).



I was born in America, but I was made right here inside these gates......






Is that an ASSHOLE FACTORY?

Sorry CavVet, I just had to! You know good and well you'd have done the same thing!
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:41:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
Nevermind the point is how can you claim two countries at once.

last time i checked, africa was a continent.

have you never heard of dual citizenship?

actually, i claim "english-american" because my white assed ancestors came here in a boat, too.

damn that king george! always trying to keep a cracker down!!


Okay tru true true and so is America.

Any how my ancestors came here on a boat as well in 1890, does that mean I am welsh-american or german-american. Hell no. I am an American, why the fuck would I be any thing but?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:42:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By photoman:
).



I was born in America, but I was made right here inside these gates......

images.snapfish.com/33%3B%3A738%3B23232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3­B8%3B%3D833%3DXROQDF%3E2323653%3C386%3C8ot1ls­i




Is that an ASSHOLE FACTORY?




AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:43:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By olyarms:
LMAO I can be Caucasian but if I called some one a Negro I am a fucking racist.



No, we pretty much all agree dumbass fits you better.

+1, American American.

American first, last & foremost.



Ah thats sweet



Oh, and +1 for dumbass.



Awww....you guys agree on something....that's sweet.


Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:47:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Is that an ASSHOLE FACTORY?



[spock] Logic would dictate from the byproduct of the facility, it is indeed an ASSHOLE FACTORY.

[shrug]

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:48:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:53:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Cav, uhh, did you know something funny is happening to your ears?



I told her to quit pullin on them, homey dont play that.

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:57:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:58:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By photoman:
I know a white dude from south africa who is now a US citizen, he IS African-American, but he ain't black, but he is more african, than half the blacks I know who say they are African-American. Chrliez Theron(sp) is African-American, she was IIRC born and raised originaly in south africa. She'd be African-American(well if she became a US citizen).



Not that it makes two shits to me, but no more than anyone could be. We have no control over our parents or the circumstances surrounding our creation, etc.


I was born in America, but I was made right here inside these gates......

images.snapfish.com/33%3B%3A738%3B23232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3­B8%3B%3D833%3DXROQDF%3E2323653%3C386%3C8ot1ls­i


Yes its in Africa. While my US Passport is always gold, I couldnt even get inside the gates. Small private compound/ resort-ish.

As if there was something in there I wanted. I wanted a few pics. But nooooooooo.....

Maybe thats where the WMD's are stored????



I agree wtih you 100% there is nothing anyone can do about where they are concived or born.
I was just pointing out how I have friends that are black, but they don't like to be called black you HAVE to call them African -American(they are brothers). But they were born right here, so were their parents and grandparents, and great grandparents. Infact according to thier father, there is no one in their family that came to this country from anywhere on the continent of Africa. Yet they insist they are African-American. I introduced the guy from South Africa to them, and when I did it I kinda jokingly, but kinda seriously said hey guys I want to introduce you to a real African-American. They were mad at me for a second, but saw the HAHA funny in it. But they realised that being PC can also be very un-PC. In this case if you say African-American, people expect you to be talking about a black person. But in reality, the term simply means an American of African decent. Last I checked there were white people in South Africa, and also all over the African continent. So the term African-American in it's attempt to be PC when refering to blacks, is infact not PC bnecause Africans are not all black. Thats all I was pointing out.
Me I'm American, no hyphons. My family asestry, well I just say I'm a mut.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:59:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Logic would dictate that you pull on her ears in return



Nuff said???

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:00:27 AM EST
I don't acknowledge hyphenated Americans
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:15:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 7:16:17 AM EST by PennvilleBill]
I Don’t Want to be Black Anymore
By J.J. Johnson

It's not working, folks.

I have tried to do everything I can to be the African-American I’m

supposed to be, but I just cannot continue. I am hereby resigning

myself from the Black Race. And before I get death threats from my

Black brethren out there, hear me out.

I have almost made it through another Black history month, in

which I’m supposed to do all I can to insult White people for 28

days. I guess I should even say the Black History month is a racial

conspiracy by White people since they only gave us 28 (or 29) days

to rip their dignity to shreds, while the other months have 30 or 31

days. I guess it’s just another example of the Black man not getting

his fair share.

Frankly, many of my Black brothas and sistas’ are starting to…

well... embarrass me. Can I turn on the television and not hear

some Black liberal puke complaining about something?

I’ll start there – television. First we had the NAACP (Notorious

African American Communist Pigs) lambasting Hollywood for not

having enough Blacks in front of (or behind) the cameras. “We don’t

see enough Black folk on TV.” An economic boycott is threatened,

the ugly “R” word is used, and Hollywood (you know, those rich

White guys) capitulate. Did anyone ask were the accusations true?

And if so, who really cares?

Whenever I turn my television to watch my favorite programs, I see

plenty of very wealthy and successful Black men excelling in their

trade/craft. But I guess the NFL, the NBA, and Major League

baseball doesn’t count. It must be just me. I guess the "quota kings

and queens" don’t count those folks. Then another “study” comes

out. This one says, “While Blacks are over-represented on

television, they are still given only minor roles, or are on screen for

less than 5 seconds at a time.” And, of course, this too is unfair.

The easy defense against this eternal whining was for anyone to

just mention three letters: B.E.T

That’s right, Black Entertainment Television, where you can get all

the Blackness you want, 24/7 with all those Black folks in front of

(and behind) all those cameras. Gee, only about 60 million cable

viewers can see that.

I guess it’s just me. Maybe Momma didn’t raise me right. Now we

have that flag issue in Dixie. Most folks thought if they just took

down that flag, all this controversy would just go away. After all,

it’s a horrible reminder of slavery.

Strange, I can’t find a Black person in this country who can

remember being a slave. I also can’t find one White person in the

country who will admit to owning slaves. In fact, most of the Whites

in this country (according to my investigation) had ancestors who

landed on these shores long after slavery ended in North America.

And I can’t repeat what some of those Irish folks told me. But, for

one month I’m supposed to hate the Confederate flag. Not just

waving over the South Carolina Statehouse, but on police cars in

Mississippi and in front of livestock shows in Houston. I’m supposed

to call for the changing of the names of bridges in Virginia, parks in

Tennessee and the defacing of portraits of General Lee. I’m even

supposed to support Rep. King’s (R-NY) demonizing of every

Southerner in the halls on Congress. I’m supposed to support and

endorse all of this because I’m a Black man.

Yes, boycott South Carolina. Boycott the entire South until they

get their “minds right.” This means, no Blacks (like me) should do

any business with the South period. So, to that Black businessman

in Memphis, sorry. Hope you can get some of those racist White

folks to patronize your store. The NAACP says I can’t go there.

About the family reunion this year in South Carolina – forget it.

Nope, not me. Our un-elected Black leadership says we gotta

boycott. Don’t worry, I’ll explain to that Black soul food caterer in

Columbia that the reason he’s losing so much business this year is

because of a piece of cloth hanging over the capitol building. He’ll

understand.

And Florida… we’ll have to leave you out, too. You see, Governor

Jeb Bush enacted a program called “One Florida” in which anyone

who finishes in the top 20% of his or her class gets a scholarship to

a public University in Florida. I can’t figure it out for the life of me,

but according to my Black leaders, that’s racist, too. The NAACP

head (case) says we’ll boycott Florida until that’s changed. By the

way, isn’t it interesting that the same people who say we should

boycott everything economically are the same people who say

Blacks are economically deprived in this “White dominated”

society? What they’re telling me is that Black people are too stupid

to make it into the top 20% of the graduating class, and that most

Black people are too stupid to see through their lies. And most of

these self-appointed Black leaders probably NEVER made it into

the top 20% of anything. But nevertheless, they’re my leaders. Dan

Rather, Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, Bill Bradley and Al Gore say

they are, and since all these self-appointed “oracles” are White,

they must be right.

Even Secret Service is getting into the act. Some of these guys,

even though they get to guard the President and the Vice

President, say they haven’t got the promotions they deserve.

Where’s the dignity? I guess those White Secret Service agents get

to guard folks more important.

Here’s a suggestion for the Black Secret Service agents who guard

those important White folks (from the south): Wanna become

heroes and restore your dignity? Quit. That’ll teach ‘em.

As a Black man, I’m told I should pin my hopes on making it rich

when the NAACP gets their “fair share” from suing all those guns

dealers. After all it’s those gun dealers’ fault for all those Black

folks shooting all those Black folks. Perhaps next year, they’ll be

suing bed-sheet makers, rope manufactures, and the South

American drug cartels.

I have asked my Black leaders to sue the ATF, since the only

product in America that “requires” you to list your race before

purchasing it is a firearm. They haven’t returned my call. But then

again, the right to keep and bear arms isn’t listed under “civil

rights” anyway, is it?

It’s okay. We’ll just sue the gun-makers instead. That’ll teach them

to not sell guns to us Black folks (so we can get gunned down for

reaching for a wallet.) Yes, if we just sue a few more White folks,

harass and slander the rest, one day – maybe one day--we won’t

have to put a prefix in front of the word “American” anymore.

Well, I’m not waiting for that. I have done everything to try to

advance the cause of personal freedom as a Black man, and to

enjoy the liberty that my parents fought for, but it is just not

working. These White people are just too smart for me. They made

sure that I never had to wait at a Denny’s restaurant longer than

anyone else does. Some of them hired me for simply having the

brains to do the job. Some of them (the real sneaky ones) had the

gall to judge me by the content of my character, and not the color of

my skin. They’ve paid me in dollars with White slave-owners'

photos on them. And, damn them, they made me earn it first.

They have allowed me to own my own business. They even went so

far as to steal tax dollars from other White people to make sure I

got an education – so I could like…make it in this world.

What an evil plot. Since there is almost no reason to bitch about

anything anymore, it must be…institutional racism.

I am through being used. I am fed up with trying to conform. This

year, when I fill out my Census form, I will let them know that I

quit. I wish to no longer be a Black American. I want nothing to do

with race baiting, whining, pandering for more tax dollars; family

breakdowns, and the Al Sharptons of the world.

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

I am somebody, and I don’t need Jessie Jackson to tell me that. My

father already did.

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

I refuse to be used as a statistic to get more left-wing socialists into

Congress.

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

There is no need to make me part of a “protected group” as the

California Governor recently stated. I can protect myself, thank

you.

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

Please do not feel sorry for me anymore, White folks. That liberal

pity-party really insults me, anyway.

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

You Democrats don’t have to act like you like me. I know it’s an

election year. I am tired of being the Black “sheep” of the party.

Leave me alone.

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

If it means disgracing my own heritage by insulting Southern

history…

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

Since making the same statements Martin Luther King, Jr. made in

1963 are now considered “racist” and “insensitive…”

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

If it means more innocent White people are forced to go through

“sensitivity training…”

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

If it means that everyone loses their freedom of speech, freedom to

peaceably assemble, and their right to keep and bear arms…

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

If it means being a ward of the State, rather than a Child of God…

I don’t want to be Black anymore.

I’ll sign the papers, dammit. I’ll file the lawsuit. I’ll start the boycott

this time. I have every right. I am sick of these media-selected

Black prostitutes making a mockery out of my country, out of

everything America stands for. I’m sick of them giving everyone else

a reason to hate me.

I quit.

I no longer want a prefix in from of my label. From this point

forward, I, J.J. Johnson, DEMAND that I be simply called…

…American.

©J. J. Johnson
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:17:56 AM EST


The Hyphen
Words by John Mitchum & Howard Barnes

The Hyphen, Webster's Dictionary defines,
Is a symbol used to divide a compound word or a single word.
So it seems to me that when a man calls himself
An "Afro-American," a "Mexican-American," "Italian-American,"
An "Irish-American," "Jewish-American,"
What he's sayin' is, "I'm a divided American."

Well, we all came from other places,
Different creeds and different races,
To form a nation...to become as one.
Yet look at the harm a line has done--
A simple little line, and yet
As divisive as a line can get.
A crooked cross the Nazis flew,
And the Russian hammer and sickle too--
Time bombs in the lives of Man;
But none of these could ever fan
The flames of hatred faster than
The Hyphen.

The Russian hammer built a wall
That locks men's hearts from freedom's call.
A crooked cross flew overhead
Above twenty million tragic dead--
Among them men from this great nation,
Who died for freedom's preservation.
A hyphen is a line that's small;
It can be a bridge or be a wall.
A bridge can save you lots of time;
A wall you always have to climb.
The road to liberty lies true.
The Hyphen's use is up to you.

Used as a bridge, it can span
All the differences of Man.
Being free in mind and soul
Should be our most important goal.
If you use The Hyphen as a wall,
You'll make your life mean...and small.
An American is a special breed,
Whose people came to her in need.
They came to her that they might find
A world where they'd have peace of mind,
Where men are equal...and something more--
Stand taller than they stood before.

So you be wise in your decision,
And that little line won't cause division.
Let's join hands with one another...
For in this land, each man's your brother.
United we stand...divided we fall.
We're Americans...and that says it all.


Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:21:49 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:31:10 AM EST
John Kerry was African American...errh ahhh that was before he was a White American...mmmm....

Sounds like John be and Jacko have a lot in common

Bomber
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:33:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 5:16:28 PM EST by RAMBOSKY]
I'm Irish, Irish, Danish, Russian American.

My two Great Grandmothers are Irish.
One Great Grandfater is Danish.
And the one I got stuck the Russian "sky" name.

But.................I'm an American. Don't need to bring up my ancestery.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:35:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
Anyone remember the skating competition in the Olympics last time when the announcer referred to a black Frenchwoman as "the African-American from France"?


No way!

You're kidding...right?
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