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Posted: 12/16/2014 12:56:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2014 1:03:11 AM EST by geezhound]
If you plan on using the EE here to sell an item in the future, please refrain from listing any item for sale if you fit any of the following criteria.
1: You have a job that requires you to spend a great deal of time out of town on "Business trips".
2: You work 84 hours a week or more, and can't get to the post office for weeks at a time.
3: You live more than 30 miles from the nearest post office.
4: You have an immediate family member(s) that is/are in any danger of dying before the sale is completed.
5: You have any sort of "beef" with your local postal employees and they will intentionally lose or misplace items that you have shipped.
6: You have "dead areas" in your vehicles that are large enough to hold envelopes or packages that fall down into them, and render the item(s) impossible to find for weeks.
7: You are in the middle of a divorce.
8: You are in the middle of planning a wedding.
9: You are in the middle of a move.
10: You are in the middle of a career change.
11: You have intermittent internet/email access/ capability. Particularly when it goes out AFTER you receive payment, but BEFORE you ship the item.
12: You have small children that will "hide" packages that you've prepared promptly for shipment, but can't be found in those pesky "hiding spots" for weeks or even months.

If you fit in any of these categories, please DON'T sell on the EE.
That is all.
Thank you
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:04:20 AM EST
Should be added to EE rules.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:05:48 AM EST
FPNI
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:09:18 AM EST
Deserves a sticky.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:12:18 AM EST
If you want fast shipping, order from SKD or somewhere else that has a garranty to ship in 24 hours.

I'm usually able to ship packages the next day after receiving payment. I can also usually ship a MO out the next day after I commit to buying. But there have been a few times I've been later than that.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:13:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CousinIT50:
Should be added to EE rules.
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Yup

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Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:14:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:15:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2014 1:17:49 AM EST by inthe605]
+1..

Msg too short..

ETA. I could have sworn that I had over 9 feedbacks by now.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:15:35 AM EST
This is why I rarely do private internet sales anymore.

I have a similar list for buyers.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:15:52 AM EST
Post office 24hr Kiosks allow me to get most packages in the mail same day
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:17:41 AM EST
And post pics of the item for sale!
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:18:29 AM EST
Nailed it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:22:24 AM EST
Don't forget about guys looking to buy in the EE.

Seller: Looking for $800 OR BEST OFFER. NO TRADES

Potential buyer: Will you take trades? Whats your absolute bottom dollar?
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:31:29 AM EST
And don't sell ANYTHING for a profit, as the seller it is your responsibility to take a loss.




amiright?
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:34:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2014 1:35:08 AM EST by M4ger]
Yeah and let me know when you are shipping and don't log in DAILY and not give me any information as to why I waited 2 weeks for 5 magazines.

Communication is not that difficult.

And this is why you start getting neutral feedback.

It's not rocket science.

And post positive feedback when I send you payment after 24 hours.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:35:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Don't forget about guys looking to buy in the EE.

Seller: Looking for $800 OR BEST OFFER. NO TRADES

Potential buyer: Will you take trades? Whats your absolute bottom dollar?
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Indeed. that would require a totally different thread.

Don't forget ...
Seller: "Post I'll take it if you want the item"
Buyer: "Why did that guy get it? I emailed you yesterday and told you I'd take it!"
Seller: "Umm... because he Posted in the thread"
Buyer: "That's bullshit!! I'm leaving you a neg!"
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:36:54 AM EST
I'm out of state potentially 9 months out of the year. I state my time limitations as needed.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:39:05 AM EST
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:42:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.
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I skip any ad that doesn't have pics, usually.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:51:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:



I skip any ad that doesn't have pics, usually.
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Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.



I skip any ad that doesn't have pics, usually.


Same for me.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:53:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2014 1:54:34 AM EST by dangerdan]
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Originally Posted By geezhound:


Indeed. that would require a totally different thread.

Don't forget ...
Seller: "Post I'll take it if you want the item"
Buyer: "Why did that guy get it? I emailed you yesterday and told you I'd take it!"
Seller: "Umm... because he Posted in the thread"
Buyer: "That's bullshit!! I'm leaving you a neg!"
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Originally Posted By geezhound:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Don't forget about guys looking to buy in the EE.

Seller: Looking for $800 OR BEST OFFER. NO TRADES

Potential buyer: Will you take trades? Whats your absolute bottom dollar?


Indeed. that would require a totally different thread.

Don't forget ...
Seller: "Post I'll take it if you want the item"
Buyer: "Why did that guy get it? I emailed you yesterday and told you I'd take it!"
Seller: "Umm... because he Posted in the thread"
Buyer: "That's bullshit!! I'm leaving you a neg!"
I've actually sold a scope while I was in Iraq...
I needed cash for a plane ticket home for post deployment leave
Listed my scope in the EE and stated that it would be 2 months before I could even ship the scope.
Within an hour of making the thread, someone here "took it" and sent me money via paypal.
Kind of awesome having people here who don't bitch about having things sent immediatly and paying for an item 2 months before I could even get my hands on it

It was my Super Sniper 10x scope (w/ side parallax) and a LaRue LT-104 scope mount. I think I sold it for $425
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:59:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2014 2:06:53 AM EST by geezhound]
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Originally Posted By M4ger:
Communication is not that difficult.
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This is the problem that I'm currently facing that's about to force me to leave my 1st EVER negative feedback in 15 years on this site. I've cut many people breaks when I probably should've given negs, but I'm pretty flexible and extremely forgiving in these situations. All I ask is that you keep the communication alive. Regardless of the situation, I'm willing to forgive as long as you don't hide from me.
The seller I'm currently dealing with is in full-on, head-in-the-sand mode.
SITUATION: Seller posted item for sale with pics. Seller had double digit, 100% positive feedback. No mention was made of any type of shipping limitations in the listing.
I purchased and paid for an item on 12/01/14.
On 12/08/14 I inquired through email to get a status update and ask for a tracking#.
Seller responded quickly that the item was returned to him that morning due to insufficient postage, but it was re-sent with the proper postage immediately. No tracking # was provided.
On 12/12/14, I again inquired about the status and again requested a tracking #.
Seller responded quickly and said his girlfriend had the tracking # and he would send it to me after work that night.
On 12/13/14, I AGAIN requested the tracking #, but there was no reply.
On 12/14/14 I AGAIN requested the tracking #, but there was no reply.
On 12/15/14 I AGAIN requested either the tracking # or a refund by the end of the day. (Some people may consider this too strong, but in my opinion, 3 days without a reply is unacceptable when in the middle of an EE transaction and it's YOUR turn to act)
It's now the 16th and I really don't want to neg this guy or anyone else for that matter, but he's really leaving me no choice in the matter. If he would just reply to my emails I'm sure we can resolve this, but it seems he'd rather just hope I go away.

Opinions?



Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:03:17 AM EST
#4 Seems to pop up on Group Buys also.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:07:51 AM EST
I've been guilty of 1, 4, 8, 11.

1 and 11 are because the army likes to bone me though

4 was unexpected.

And 8.... how the fuck else was I supposed to pay for it??
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:11:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.
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But you might miss out on shit like this!!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_170/1381954_very_old_army_radio.html

Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:13:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By polecat30:


But you might miss out on shit like this!!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_170/1381954_very_old_army_radio.html

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Originally Posted By polecat30:
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.


But you might miss out on shit like this!!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_170/1381954_very_old_army_radio.html

Holy shit
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:14:08 AM EST
I would add that your PSA shit is not worth more than PSA is currently selling it for.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:14:17 AM EST


Sounds reasonable to me.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:16:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
I would add that your PSA shit is not worth more than PSA is currently selling it for.
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This is true. You should see my local backpage, it's pure comedy.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:29:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 8:56:50 AM EST
I need to sell sand proof panties; there seems to be a market here.


Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:34:10 AM EST
I left negative for a buyer once when he continually persisted to tell me that he was buying a 6.5 Grendel barrel I had for sale several years ago.

4 or 5 times he said he was sending payment but never received it and had the ad marked as sold pending funds during the whole bit.

I also waited 3 weeks for a couple BCGs from someone who left it for someone else to ship. No personal responsibility I suppose. I take care of my own business quite effectively and efficiently and leaving a box for someone else to send is foolish. Take care of your own sales. We expect this.

There's also a seller whose feedback was in the 600s and he didn't even take the time to email me a tracking #.

And buyers---when someone lists items as for sale and says email them---do so. Just because my IM box was full doesn't mean you can't get in touch with me.

Again---read the ad and start communication the right way please.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:35:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
I need to sell sand proof panties; there seems to be a market here.


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But will you ship them in a timely manor?
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:41:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RJeff21:


Same for me.
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Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.



I skip any ad that doesn't have pics, usually.


Same for me.

Same. I don't give them the time of day. If you don't have time to post pics of your $2000 rifle, then I'll buy it elsewhere.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:42:48 AM EST
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+1
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:43:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:



But will you ship them in a timely manor?
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
I need to sell sand proof panties; there seems to be a market here.





But will you ship them in a timely manor?


Only after he visits his sick grandma/uncle/friend in the hospital.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:45:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By geezhound:
If you plan on using the EE here to sell an item in the future, please refrain from listing any item for sale if you fit any of the following criteria.
1: You have a job that requires you to spend a great deal of time out of town on "Business trips".
2: You work 84 hours a week or more, and can't get to the post office for weeks at a time.
3: You live more than 30 miles from the nearest post office.
4: You have an immediate family member(s) that is/are in any danger of dying before the sale is completed.
5: You have any sort of "beef" with your local postal employees and they will intentionally lose or misplace items that you have shipped.
6: You have "dead areas" in your vehicles that are large enough to hold envelopes or packages that fall down into them, and render the item(s) impossible to find for weeks.
7: You are in the middle of a divorce.
8: You are in the middle of planning a wedding.
9: You are in the middle of a move.
10: You are in the middle of a career change.
11: You have intermittent internet/email access/ capability. Particularly when it goes out AFTER you receive payment, but BEFORE you ship the item.
12: You have small children that will "hide" packages that you've prepared promptly for shipment, but can't be found in those pesky "hiding spots" for weeks or even months.

If you fit in any of these categories, please DON'T sell on the EE.
That is all.
Thank you
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#1 hits me in the X ring yet I've had zero issues from my end as a seller or buyer.

Now, the guy working 3rd shift who agreed to buy a revolver almost a month ago...different story.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:46:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TrueRebel:


This is true. You should see my local backpage, it's pure comedy.
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Originally Posted By TrueRebel:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
I would add that your PSA shit is not worth more than PSA is currently selling it for.


This is true. You should see my local backpage, it's pure comedy.



Like craigslist, they want more than new price!
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:47:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By polecat30:


But you might miss out on shit like this!!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_170/1381954_very_old_army_radio.html

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Originally Posted By polecat30:
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.


But you might miss out on shit like this!!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_170/1381954_very_old_army_radio.html




Oh boy not going within a million miles of that
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:48:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2014 10:48:32 AM EST by Engineer5]
Sellers should own a fucking digital camera.

In this day and age if you can't post a fucking picture of your $3500.00 item you're an idiot. When I open an EE ad and there is not a picture I move on.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:49:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Sellers should own a fucking digital camera.

In this day and age if you can't post a fucking picture of your $3500.00 item you're an idiot. When I open an EE ad and there is not a picture I move on.
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Same here.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:49:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
I would add that your PSA shit is not worth more than PSA is currently selling it for.
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Seriously, wtf? I see this too often.

If a seller can't post pics, he should be reported to the cyber police and his driver's license should be revoked.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:52:38 AM EST
On another forum I had a guy hold off several weeks on shipping my package because he was in a car wreck. Apparently my small package had been trapped behind crumpled metal and his wrecked car was at the junk yard. Fortunately his young son was small enough to reach into the crevice and retrieve my package.

That being said the vast majority of my online dealings have been excellent.

Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:53:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster1984:



Same here.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster1984:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Sellers should own a fucking digital camera.

In this day and age if you can't post a fucking picture of your $3500.00 item you're an idiot. When I open an EE ad and there is not a picture I move on.



Same here.


I agree but I know many people mostly 50+ years old who don't have an email account or share an email account with their spouse.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:54:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:



I skip any ad that doesn't have pics, usually.
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Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Should be a no pic, no post rule, I especially hate the "I have pics, email me for them" bullshit, learn to host and post pics.



I skip any ad that doesn't have pics, usually.

Same here. I don't need a giggapixle photo of every angle. I just want to A: see that you have the item and B: see that it is the same thing you listed.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 10:59:54 AM EST
I think you hit the nail on the head with these.

On a side note, as I was reading through these for the first time it occurred to me that you were describing the perfect seller: a basement dwelling, GD loving neckbeard without a job or a life.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:01:31 AM EST
Pretty good list of rules.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:02:46 AM EST
Sound advice indeed.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:06:10 AM EST
LOL Monica is right on
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:09:49 AM EST
No pics in the ad, I pass. Especially any higher dollar items.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:10:00 AM EST
WTF dude, be patient - i will send you my collection of old pron mags by this friday like i said to you in PMs
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