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Posted: 11/18/2003 12:21:20 PM EDT
I'm looking for a tactical rifle on a budget. I found a used .300 without the accu-trigger, but it has the Choate stock. The guy will sell it for $450. Anyone else shot one of these guns. The reviews look good.
Also what is a good "cheap" long range scope I could put on it? thanks |
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Here's a lesson learned the hard way:
There are cheap scopes. There are good scopes. There are no good, cheap scopes. Save your money and buy a Leupold. |
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What about a Tasco world class?
I wish I could afford a good scope, but my budget for this gun is low. Any recs on scopes under $300? or should I look for a used higher end scope? |
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Used higher end scope is the better answer IMHO. Example: Guy here has a Savage 7mm mag with a 3.5-10 x 50 Vari x III. Wants $500 for the package. I'd buy the whole thing, then sell the rifle for about $325 netting me the kick ass scope for $200 or so. Look at your local trader paper.
Scott |
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Stop !!
Don't buy it!!! Am I too late? Save your bucks and do it right. Get the Remington 700PSS with a Leupold. Remember this warning ! You will regret the Savage! Don't do it!! Choose wisely !! Don't make the costly Savage mistake !!! |
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That's a good idea, never thought of that |
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I have a 110FP in .308 with the Choate stock that has been through several 40 hour Sniper schools and deployed operationally multiple times. I have the Tasco Sniper Scope using Luepold base and rings on it and have never wished for anything else. I am a shooter and compete with this gun also. It has been in service for over three years and three thousand plus rounds.
No complaints here. |
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Works the other way as well. Never sell a good rifle / scope combination together. The sum of the parts is greater than the whole. This assumes it's not a savage 110 .270 and a simmons whitetail. |
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A Super Sniper is a good scope and won't run you more than about $300.
I recommend it for shooters on a budget. I can't afford a Leupold, and you might not either. No need to deny yourself a weapon. Get the Savage and a $300 SuperSniper 10x42 from swfa.com. You will be shooting for less than $800. I used a $65 Bushnell Banner 3-9x40 for years and it works fine. I am not an operator, nor a snob. Buy the scope you can afford, and hone your shooting skills. Better scopes and rifles can be bought later. I shoot a Remington LTR, and won't knock a good Savage. |
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I've got 4 Savages:
223 x 2 308 30-06 Any of those Savages would outshoot my box-stock Remingtons: 223 308 30-06 Had to pump some $s into the Remingtons to get them up to Savage standards for accuracy. Parts for Savages can be found at Sharp Shooter Supply and MidwayUSA. |
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Either offer some VALID reasons why he should not buy it or take a hike. These are good guns. |
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THanks |
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Horsefeathers. Savage is building the most accurate rifle out of the box on the market today. I will put my Savages up against any Remington, Winchester, Sako, Tikka ad infintum... Savage rifles must shoot MOA or better before they ship. That's with factory ammo, handloading should improve upon that. Call Savage tomorrow and ask them what standard they use before they ship any rifle from their factory. (413) 568-7001 |
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i have 2 savage 10FP 308 rifles, one 24, and one 26 inch barrel, both have the sss stocks/triggers, and have been bedded, and have the harris bipods, ferrel base, warne rings, one wears a 8.5-25X50 lr M1 tactical loopy, the other wears a 3.5-10X40 M3 tactical, and BOTH rifles do honest 1/4 MOA groups if i do my part, i do an easy half MOA on a bad day, they both go to 1000 yards easily, and have beaten all of my friends remmies hands down, and even did so out of the box, so get your pss and bring it up here, we will have a run for the money, i guarantee that the lowly savage crap rifle made from inferior to remmi parts will smoke the pss, or vss |
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Yes, it's a good gun, but a SHITTY trigger. If I were you, I'd buy the NEW Savage WITH the accutrigger. You'll kick yourself for it if you don't... I recommend the Tasco Super Sniper, or a Used Leupold. |
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I have a new Savage 10FP (the model that replaced the 'Savage Tactical') in .308 with the AccuTrigger..
1) The AT is everything they say it is. Period. Light-as-a-feather, almost no trigger travel (over or otherwise)... Just put 1.5lb pressure on the thing and BANG! 2) I have a Simmons 44Mag scope (6.5-20x, 44mm objective, mil-dot). I have no complaints, it's clear enough to shoot in low light, and has managed to hold zero for the 75 or so rounds I've fired since I got the rifle a month ago... 3) I get around 1-3MOA at 100yds (best group was 1 in @ 100yds, 'ring-around-the-bull'), using Australlian surplus .308 (old FAL ammo, on stripper clips. Not exactly 'match grade')... I attribute this to my lack of experience with scoped rifles and shooting beyond 50ft... P.S. $350 for the rifle (03 10FP, AT/factory stock) $150 for the scope $35 for the base (sharpshooter supply/Ken Ferrel) $25 for burris zee rings $20 for the bipod (swivel-stud mount type) $16 for sling and swivels... |
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How much would a good trigger job run?
I figure $450 for the gun is a good deal with the choate stock and scope mounts. What is the main difference between your $700 scopes and your $200 Bushnell. I've always used Bushnell's for deer hunting for years. Seem to work just fine. Do I just not know what I'm missing? Is there a $500 difference in clarity? I mean if you see the deer and the crosshairs does the extra clarity make that much difference? I'm sure if I was a police sniper and peoples lives were on the line I could justify spending that much, but I'm just looking for a "weekend warrior" sniper gun. Don't get me wrong I want to shoot 1/4 MOA at distange. |
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Since we're on the subject, I'm gunna ask the question.
I'm a lefty, so nobody makes a 'tactical' in LH, so I have been reading about the Rem 700vs, since this can be made in LH and it's close to the pss. Here's the question, does Savage make something comparable to the 'tactical' in a LH? |
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Here are a few cheap scopes I found.
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3637976679&category=31714&sspagename=rvi:1:3 cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3638397595&category=31714 Lifetime warranty??? Sounds like alot for that price? |
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Let me give some good advice. Set your standards a little more reasonably. 1/4 MOA is not likely with most any factory rifle. I have an Accuracy International AE that will do it, but it is a $2,000+ rifle. Expect 3/4 to 1 MOA as a reasonable target. That will be much more likely. And don't let people give you a line of bull. MOA rifles are rare, not usual. |
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I don't think so, but email them. www.savagearms.com/le_home.htm |
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True, and I don't need it to do that. I guess in reality I will only use it at the range and for the peace of mind knowing that I have a rifle in my trunk that can shoot your eye out at 500yards and I might use it for deer hunting, but mostly just for fun. |
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You can purchase a drop in trigger from SharpShooter Supply in Delphos Ohio for your Savage. Website: www.varminthunters.com/sshooter/ Scanned pics of SSS mail order catalog: imageevent.com/richinva/sharpshootersupply As far as the scope goes: All you wanted to know about optics and more. www.charm.net/~kmarsh/scope.html With credits to Ken Marsh of rec.guns fame:
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Doh... I found this on the site Email: Due to an overwhelming request for information, we are unable to accept inquiries by e-mail. |
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I've shot savages and I've shot remingtons about an equal amount.
The stocks on savages are ok, they don't seem to fit me too well though. Remingtons fit me great. Choate Stocks are, well superb, they fit me perfectly (along with everyone else I've seen try them). Every Savage I have EVER shot has been very accurate right from the box, the scopes that come in the packages that are supposedly boresighted are always off but once the rifle is sighted, it is fine. I have had a few pretty good Remingtons and I have had some bad remingtons. I sell guns, I sell both Rems and Savages. For some reason Savage has a bad name. Everyone I have ever sold a savage to has come back to me stating that it is very accurate, not so with the rems (but that could be just luck). If you have the chance to get the Savage with a Choate Stock on it, take it. If it is in reasonable shape, you won't regret it for a second. |
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sniper1az,
How about responding to the replies about your post? I am kind of curious how you came to your conclusions about Savage rifles. No disrespect intended. |
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What replies? Money was the main issue regarding my decision on the Savage. |
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One more thing. If you buy it NEW. The stock it comes with is a throw away. You MUST get a different stock to obtain best results.
________________________________________ LIFE MEMBER NRA LIFE MEMBER VFW MEMBER TSRA |
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I have a 10FP in the McM stock. It has the accutrigger. I love the gun. I can routinely shoot 1/2 MOA at 100 yds and have held under a minute at 800yds in the wind.
During a stalk in a class, I crawled thru a creek for about 30yds with the rifle totally submerged. When I set up for my shot, water was pouring outta the bbl, action and scope caps :). Within a coupla hours (and no cleaning or drying) I shot 70-80 rnds from 250-800yds with no glitches or misses. I've got no complaints at all. |
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