If this doesn't get the attention of liberal women, I can't imagine what might!



It's an execution of an Afghan woman in the Kabul 'Soccer Stadium' in November, 1999!

Gee, I get tingly all over just thinking about the liberal's love for 'multi-culturalism'!

I'd bet that young lady, kneeling on the soccer field, would have loved to have been an oppressed, exploited woman in the Western World right about then!

Eric The(HonestToGoodness)Hun

Post from jimb100 -

I've never considered public executions to part of people's cultural heritage.

Then you must be the Lone Ranger in your neck of the woods!

The photo that I posted was of a public execution held in a soccer stadium fercryingoutloud, because that's the only place that can hold the thousands of Afghanis who come out to view the public executions of folks!

Think of it as the Islamic cultural equivalent of a World's Cup soccer match!

After you see such a gruesome display of blood and gore, it's kinda hard to get scared by Aliens, or Psycho, or much of anything else out of Hollywood!

Now, are public executions part of the Islamic culture in parts of Islamdom?

Yeah, pretty much!

But now don't get too upset!

Such public executions were commonplace in parts of the United States, particularly in the Frontier West, right up to the end of the Nineteenth Century!

Of course, executions in the Old West were usually reserved for murderers...almost always male....

...and not for Afghan women whose only crime was to teach young Afghan girls how to read and write!

Want some websites that exhibit some of the crowds that are gathered for such 'culturally' important events?

I'd be happy to provide them!

Eric The(WellReasoned)Hun

Here is a site for the movie of that execution...rawa.org/zarmeena.htm

If you want to see more public executions just go to the rawa.org website!

Eric The(Shocking!)Hun

Well, Silence, that was the thinking way back when, but as we became more civilized, we began to realize that the public execution of criminals was not a sporting event or a chance to make an impression upon a free and relatively law abiding public.

Because we value life, we are not presently disposed to allow the necessity of execution for some criminals to become a blood sport.

If you were sincerely against the death penalty, I could see where you would also support public executions in the belief that such a measure would quickly lead to the end of capital punishment.

Contrarily, I would fear that the public would demand more such ghastly scenes, not fewer, or none.

Eric The(Reasonable)Hun

Post from Silence -

If it is so bad that you have to hide it, then it is not something that the government should be doing.

Well, first you have to hold that capital punishment is 'so bad' before you can proceed with that particular argument!

In the view of the Feds and most States, as well as in numerous polls of the American people, the death penalty is supported and considered acceptable.

So, we do not consider capital punishment to be 'bad.'

If you do, then simply say so out loud and cut to your arguments on that point - don't tap dance around the issue!

Additionally, there are a lot of things that the government 'should be doing' that we don't get to view in public.

We don't ordinarily permit cameras in prisons, to film the inmates in their cells, do we?

We don't ordinarily braodcast the faces of rape victims in trials when they appear in the witness box, do we?

And when it comes to sex crimes against children, there is simply no way that the trial and the victims' faces would be shown!

Now, are any of those proceedings 'bad'?

If it is something that is necessary then it should be out in the open.

See preceding answer.

After all isnt 'life without parole' the same thing as a death penalty?

Nope! The perp is still alive!

And still costing the taxpayers money!

And still likely to be paroled or released by the prison/parole authorities no matter what the sentencing court may have said!

I mean in both cases the person will die in prison, it just will take longer with one of the methods. Which is worse?

Well, as much as people 'say' they would rather be put to death rather than live their lives out in prison, they usually begin screaming like little school girls as the day of their doom approaches!

'Mercy' is a quality they should have exhibited to their victims, and yet they beg for 'mercy' as if they deserved it!

So, you rape a ten year old girl. You have just destroyed a little life. you have scarred the child for life. She will never be the same person she would have been without the rape. You have mortally wounded her family. You have caused such unbelievable horror to a child of God's that it is every parent's waking nightmare.

And then, as you look down upon her battered and bruised body, in pain and gasping for breath, and scared like a little rabbit, you do what?

Show mercy? Nope. You plunge the knife, you pull the trigger.

Any society that would let you live for any length of time after you capture and conviction is a society that neither I. nor most of us, would care to live in!

And if you are not put to death after due process and the slowly creaking wheels of justice have made their revolution, in a pretty quick fashion, your continued existence causes a complete disrespect for the law, for life, for justice, and only encourages mob justice and vigilante lychings!

Is that any prettier or more acceptable to you than capital punishment?

Let the child live and we can talk of mercy and mildness. Of rehabilitation and hope.

Murder the child and we are dead as a society if we do not crush out your life with earnest certainty!

For it will only encourage other rapists to murder the only witness against them - the trembling child.

The way we execute people these days (lethal injection) destroys both the 'pro' and the 'anti' death penalty arguments.

Yeah, right.

It is such a 'humane' way to go, and it is such a better thing that sticking someone in a box for 50 years (ever see a 'super-max' prison?) that it destroys the 'anti' argument. And its very 'humaneness' destroys is limited punative/preventative value, which destroys the 'pro' argument.

They sometimes drag the condemned men screaming into the death chamber!



One can only hope!

Sometimes I wonder if what we consider to be 'civilized' is wrongheaded.

Wonder away!

Eric The(Civilized)Hun

Yes, indeed, Hannah_Reitsche, and sometimes this:



Yep, and that ain't East Texas!

Eric The(WitnessForTheProsecution)Hun

Are you absolutely certain that you never hung anyone, Old_Painless?

I mean absolutely certain?

The word on the street is that you are a professing Christian, and we all know what sorts of grievous crimes and general nastiness that Christians are capable of committing!

Eric The(ExamineYourself!)Hun

Post from Silence -

I have one question for you Eric, have you witnessed a lethal injection?

Nope! Been in the room, examined the equipment, even visited the death house at Huntsville and saw the electric chair they used there until recently.

But I have never witnessed an execution.

I have spoken to several people that have and they pretty much agreed that it is a joke to call it a punishment or penalty.

The death of the condemned man is all I seek.

If he goes kicking and screaming it's just icing on the cake!

So to speak.

Sorry that I didn't catch your views on the death penalty in your earlier post!

I'm 'multi-tasking' at my desk!

Eric the(Apologetic)Hun

Post from Hannah_Reitsch -

Eric...my pic was of a woman lynched in America, land of the free. We are not so high and mighty as we think, now, are we?

Yeah, I see the date was 1911, was it not?

I have no idea what brought this lady to her death by lynching, do you?

Did she use a 'whites only' bathroom? What?

But your comment above should, more factually read thus:

'We were not so high and mighty as we thought, now, were we?'

Now, putting your comment in past tense makes a whole lot more sense, does it not?

Yours has no relevance here.

Sure it does!

Like others here, I am of German descent. It has always amazed me what the Land of Beethoven, Bach, and Brahms could bring itself to do, not in 1911, but in 1933-1945!

Western Civilization stumbled, and just barely recovered, from a descent into another Dark Ages.

It should help to keep us all humble!

But it should also clear away any doubt that mankind has reached the highest zenith of his moral, ethical, and critical development in the Western World.

And we damn well better hold onto that, for those showers and the barbed-wire nurseries are but a generation past.

Just an attempt at hushing me about the atrocities committed here as well as elsewhere by a cheap shot at my nick.

Nope, I would never think to hush you, just remind you that taking America to task over its past crimes invites a comparison to crimes that were undreamed of in the Jim Crow South!

And with all due respect to your namesake, when I see your Board name, I think only of you and not the other Hannah and her career.

To compare present day America with the present day Islamic world, and find us wanting in simple human respect and dignity, that is the very height of multi-cultural insanity.

Eric The(Truthful)Hun

Post from jimb100 -

Further, no one is suggesting that women in Islamic countries are treated differently than here in the US.

Well, I am suggesting that women in Islamic countries are treated vastly different from women in Western countries!

Do they have the right to vote? Can they divorce their husbands? Do they get to keep their children if their husbands divorce them? Do they have any rights to money earned by either themselves or their husbands during their marriage? Etc, etc, etc.

In many ways worse, in some ways better.

I'd be very interested in learning how they are treated better.

Care to enlighten me?

However, if you want to reject everything about a people because of their religious or political failings, you are doing yourself a disservice.

I don't reject everything about any particular culture, oops, people!

Eric The(Cultured)Hun