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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:47:24 PM EST
A concealed weapons permit, unless stated for handguns only. Dose it cover rifles?

This isn't asking about any one state but a over all in lawyer speak. If the law and permit both say "weapon" it would cover the carrying of a concealed rifle correct?
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:49:05 PM EST
I would think it covers any legally owned weapon.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:49:36 PM EST
Arkansas law is very specific about what can be legally carried with the CHCL even though it is a Concealed HANDGUN Carry License. The specificity of the code eliminates the legal carrying of concealed rifles.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:49:53 PM EST
Dose?

Also, usually means handguns only.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:51:06 PM EST
It varies (sometimes greatly) from state to state.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:51:26 PM EST
Iowa issues permits to carry weapons.
Concealed or not.
Handguns, rifles, swords, whatever.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:52:45 PM EST
Pretty tough to answer without throwing in some "excepts" and "buts." Kentucky, for example, issues a CCDW (Concealed Deadly Weapon License, right across the top) which allows you to carry anything that might conceivably cause damage to another if used as intended. Brass knuckles, switchblades, rifles, pistols, saps, anything.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:54:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ventilator:
Arkansas law is very specific about what can be legally carried with the CHCL even though it is a Concealed HANDGUN Carry License. The specificity of the code eliminates the legal carrying of concealed rifles.
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MS also. No long guns, certain knives, saps, etc.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:55:37 PM EST
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When I lived in Florida the Concealed Weapon Permit allowed any legal weapon to be carried, provided it was concealed. ETA: It seems as though that did not include rifles/shotguns.
Tennessee has a Handgun Permit that only allows handguns to be carried, but they are not required to be concealed.
Those are the only two states I have personal experience with.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:55:44 PM EST
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I was told it covered anything, and any amount, that you could conceal.
The only limitation in texas was if you took the course with a revolver, you could only carry a revolver.
If someone showed up with a revolver I usualy loaned them an automatic.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:55:45 PM EST
Depends on state.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:56:01 PM EST
Totally different from state to state.


That is why I have AR pistols not SBRs :)
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:56:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
It varies (sometimes greatly) from state to state.
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This
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:56:29 PM EST

Florida Law specifically states that machine guns are a no go. SBRs are a grey area.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:56:33 PM EST
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IIRC, in Florida, it covers all weapons except NFA items.

Section 790.06(1), Fla.Stat. License to carry concealed weapon or firearm.—For the purposes of this section, concealed weapons or concealed firearms are defined as a handgun, electronic weapon or device, tear gas gun, knife, or billie, but the term does not include a machine gun as defined in s. 790.001(9). Link
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:56:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Iowa issues permits to carry weapons.
Concealed or not.
Handguns, rifles, swords, whatever.
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So under the rules of permit reciprocity. How would this potential apply in other states, Do they honor it all, or only the parts that match their permits?
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:57:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 9mmJ:
Totally different from state to state.


That is why I have AR pistols not SBRs :)
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Long gun vehicle carry is now GTG here in TN (with or without a permit), and if I ever feel the need to walk around with a rifle I don't think legality is going to be much on my mind anymore.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:59:15 PM EST
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So under the rules of permit reciprocity. How would this potential apply in other states, Do they honor it all, or only the parts that match their permits?
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Originally Posted By sheldonap90:
Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Iowa issues permits to carry weapons.
Concealed or not.
Handguns, rifles, swords, whatever.



So under the rules of permit reciprocity. How would this potential apply in other states, Do they honor it all, or only the parts that match their permits?

Follow the rules of the state you are in. If your state allows brass knuckles they will not be permitted in Tennessee, as one example.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:00:47 PM EST
I'm picturing the OP wearing a trench coat based on the avatar.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:01:51 PM EST
In Arizona, you could conceal anything. I'm pretty sure you could use an M203 for your daily carry if you wanted to. NC only covers handguns. You can't even conceal a knife.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:04:15 PM EST
In Washington State, there is no such thing as a concealed weapon license, no matter what people say.

In Idaho, it's a little more enlightened
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:04:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 9mmJ:
Totally different from state to state.


That is why I have AR pistols not SBRs :)
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This.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:05:48 PM EST
It is very state specific
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:07:11 PM EST
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Our concealed deadly weapon license covers more than just handguns:
(a) A weapon of mass destruction;
(b) Any weapon from which a shot, readily capable of producing death or other
serious physical injury, may be discharged;
(c) Any knife other than an ordinary pocket knife or hunting knife;
(d) Billy, nightstick, or club;
(e) Blackjack or slapjack;
(f) Nunchaku karate sticks;
(g) Shuriken or death star; or
(h) Artificial knuckles made from metal, plastic, or other similar hard material;

It does cover long guns.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:07:58 PM EST
It depends on the state. And sorry, but that is a lawyer answer.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:09:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:




This.
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Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By 9mmJ:
Totally different from state to state.


That is why I have AR pistols not SBRs :)




This.

This! Even though in Tenn now we can carry loaded long guns in vehicles. My pistol with Sig brace shoulders just fine thank ya!
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:11:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Depends on state.
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Yep. In NC it only covers a handgun.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:13:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By M4ger:
Our concealed deadly weapon license covers more than just handguns:
(a) A weapon of mass destruction;
(b) Any weapon from which a shot, readily capable of producing death or other
serious physical injury, may be discharged;
(c) Any knife other than an ordinary pocket knife or hunting knife;
(d) Billy, nightstick, or club;
(e) Blackjack or slapjack;
(f) Nunchaku karate sticks;
(g) Shuriken or death star; or
(h) Artificial knuckles made from metal, plastic, or other similar hard material;

It does cover long guns.
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Holy shit? Nukes AND the fcking deathstar...
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:13:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:




This.
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Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By 9mmJ:
Totally different from state to state.


That is why I have AR pistols not SBRs :)




This.


This is exactly why I went that way also.
Hessian-1
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:18:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By sheldonap90:
A concealed weapons permit, unless stated for handguns only. Dose it cover rifles?

This isn't asking about any one state but a over all in lawyer speak. If the law and permit both say "weapon" it would cover the carrying of a concealed rifle correct?
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The law should define "weapon" as it relates to the term's use in the CCW statute.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:20:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By warkittens:
When I lived in Florida the Concealed Weapon Permit allowed any legal weapon to be carried, provided it was concealed.
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Originally Posted By warkittens:
When I lived in Florida the Concealed Weapon Permit allowed any legal weapon to be carried, provided it was concealed.


This is not correct, nor has it ever been since Florida introduced shall-issue.

The CWP statute specifically states:
For the purposes of this section, concealed weapons or concealed firearms are defined as a handgun, electronic weapon or device, tear gas gun, knife, or billie, but the term does not include a machine gun as defined in s. 790.001(9).

So it does allow a licensee to carry weapons other than a firearm, but if carrying a firearm it must be a handgun.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:20:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ventilator:
Arkansas law is very specific about what can be legally carried with the CHCL even though it is a Concealed HANDGUN Carry License. The specificity of the code eliminates the legal carrying of concealed rifles.
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KY is the same way, but we can carry pretty much everything, even a machine gun. Good luck though trying to defend that in a self defense situation.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:21:37 PM EST
I think my IL carry license just says firearm, not pistol or rifle.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:22:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Southrnshooter:


Yep. In NC it only covers a handgun.
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Depends on state.


Yep. In NC it only covers a handgun.



Ditto in VA, where it is a Concealed Handgun Permit.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:22:52 PM EST
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dupe



Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:23:31 PM EST

In SC it only allows handguns 12 inches or less in length.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:24:16 PM EST
Why would you need a license to do something that isn't illegal? It isn't illegal to carry a concealed rifle in Texas (generally speaking).

You say this isn't to cover any one State... but that doesn't make any sense. You're dealing with the laws of 50 States.

That's like asking if something is illegal in Europe.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:25:06 PM EST
In PA it is a license to carry firearms. Then firearms is defined for that portion of the law.

It covers handguns, sbrs, sbs, aow, and machineguns with barrels less than 16" or less than 26" oal.

So I can concealed carry a FA M16 with a 10.5 upper and have it loaded in my vehicle, but a 16" AR needs to be unloaded and any loaded mags need to be transported seperate.

Law makes a whole lot of sense.

Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:27:00 PM EST
A ccw issued from ANY state makes you gtg in MO for pistol OR rifle due to the wording of the statute.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:40:52 PM EST
Nebraska is handguns only.

I can carry a Glock with 33rd mag, S&W 500, or even an AR pistol. 5" knife? GTFO!
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:44:30 PM EST
In Kansas you can carry nunchucks and throwing stars with your firearm.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:51:32 PM EST
State law may vary.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:55:07 PM EST
Mine says weapons permit. I show it at the gun store when buying either a handgun or a long gun but never wondered if I could conceal carry a long gun. so I don't know if I can CC a long gun.
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 6:16:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By warkittens:

Follow the rules of the state you are in. If your state allows brass knuckles they will not be permitted in Tennessee, as one example.
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Originally Posted By warkittens:
Originally Posted By sheldonap90:
Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Iowa issues permits to carry weapons.
Concealed or not.
Handguns, rifles, swords, whatever.



So under the rules of permit reciprocity. How would this potential apply in other states, Do they honor it all, or only the parts that match their permits?

Follow the rules of the state you are in. If your state allows brass knuckles they will not be permitted in Tennessee, as one example.



Pretty much this. Just because carrying an item is legal in one state doesn't mean it will be allowed in another, even if that state accepts your permit.
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 6:25:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 6:52:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
In Kansas you can carry nunchucks and throwing stars with your firearm.
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Link Posted: 11/4/2015 6:56:47 AM EST
I don't believe FL CCW allows for rifles.
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 7:03:05 AM EST
The only limitation in texas was if you took the course with a revolver, you could only carry a revolver.
If someone showed up with a revolver I usualy loaned them an automatic.
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That restriction was removed a couple of Legislative sessions several years ago.
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 7:14:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Iowa issues permits to carry weapons.
Concealed or not.
Handguns, rifles, swords, whatever.
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This. Our permit is not specific to just firearms. Can carry pretty much anything open or concealed with the Iowa permit.
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 7:19:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sheldonap90:



So under the rules of permit reciprocity. How would this potential apply in other states, Do they honor it all, or only the parts that match their permits?
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Originally Posted By sheldonap90:
Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Iowa issues permits to carry weapons.
Concealed or not.
Handguns, rifles, swords, whatever.



So under the rules of permit reciprocity. How would this potential apply in other states, Do they honor it all, or only the parts that match their permits?


A lot of states do not honor ours as it requires no shooting, just a standard 1-2 hour NRA class, and is unlimited pretty much in what you carry. Just no machine guns or explosives pretty much.

Iowa, on the other hand, honors all other 49 states permits.
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 7:22:33 AM EST
Pennsylvania definition of a firearm in relation to our License to Carry Firearms (LTCF). It should be noted that the definition of a firearm is different in other sections of gun laws in the state:

"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.
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So SBRs, SBSs, etc. are good to go along with regular handguns.
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