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Posted: 12/7/2016 9:39:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 10:35:52 PM EST by BURN]
SO first things first a big thank you to our Team member Kuraki.

He is a one of our resident knife makers and he made a knife that he was willing to give to me. We had done some trading in the past and he felt that he had gotten the better part of the deal (he didn't but we wont tell him that)
So now he leaves me speechless by sending me this wonderfully large and awesome knife.

steel = 80CRV2
17" overall
12" blade
1 7/8" wide
3/16 thick

scales are aluminum honeycomb filled with an epoxy
red liners

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Now on to the sheath making.

I am new to leather work. And this is a bad documentation of the sheath that I am going to make for this knife.
I have made guns from hunks of metal and chunks of wood.
I have made pens.
a few bad knives.
Lots of Kydex.
and generally any kinds of arts and crafts that a man would get into.

I have not made anything complex from leather from start to finish as of yet. I have made two small pouches for my wife and one choke tube pouch for my friend to get a little practice. This let me practice stitching, cutting, edging, burnishing, hole alignment, grooving and dying of leather. So lets see how far I can go with this and hopefully produce a sheath that is worthy of this awesome blade.

I have also watched a bunch of YouTube videos so we will see how much trouble I get into.

It will be an extra large scout type sheath

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pattern and then leather cut out (made my first mistake here as I put the retention strap on the wrong side and then removed it) will attach a new retention strap later.

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got the leather center cut and knife wrapped for wet forming.



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wet forming in progress.

More to come soon.
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 9:39:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/8/2016 10:22:18 AM EST by BURN]
Gluing in the Welt.

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this part shows some of the flaws in the leather but when the project is complete 99% of that wont be seen as it is internal.

Link Posted: 12/7/2016 9:39:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/8/2016 10:26:15 AM EST by BURN]
Making the straps These will get shortened and finished at a later step.

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A little grooving for a more finished look.
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The dye is a lot darker when it is wet. This sheath will be forest green when completed. I did not go with a traditional brown because I live in the desert and have seen enough brown to last me ten lifetimes.

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Next will be trimming the welt and sheath, and the work to prepare the sheath for stitching and dying.
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 9:39:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2016 10:05:42 AM EST by BURN]
Well i fucked up and have to start over.

When setting my over all height I cut it a little shorter than I wanted to and when I used the spacing I had figured out earlier my top stitch line will have a few spots where the blade at its widest will cut or rub o the stitching.

I also made some cosmetic mistakes that I can correct on my second time around.
I will update again when I get back to this point.


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Second attempt started here.


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Grove and stitch lines

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stitch holes drilled

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Strap holes drilled

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getting ready to dye

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First coat of dye done.
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 2:44:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 10:34:32 PM EST by BURN]
In case anyone cares

Kuraki said that the steel was

That guy is 80CRV2. A formulation Alpha Knife Supply had made up about 10 years ago. It's essentially 1080 high carbon steel with added Chrome (CR) and Vanadium (V) hence the name. So, still a high carbon, relatively low alloy steel that's easy to sharpen, holds a good edge, but with added toughness/strength
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Attaching straps and snaps.



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getting ready for stitching

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completed.

its ambidextrous



A lot of work goes in to doing this I had no idea until I did it.

It is still going to get a pouch in between the straps. 5" long 3" high 1.25" wide.
Let me know what you think.


Finished now with removable pouch for an Altoids can with fire starter stuff and sharpening stones.

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Link Posted: 12/7/2016 2:50:55 PM EST
And on top of that, he is a hell of a nice guy.

Link Posted: 12/7/2016 2:53:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
And on top of that, he is a hell of a nice guy.
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That he is.

Didn't know he was doing knife work now. 
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 2:55:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pita_146:

That he is.

Didn't know he was doing knife work now. 
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
And on top of that, he is a hell of a nice guy.

That he is.

Didn't know he was doing knife work now. 

Yes...

a very nice guy.

Link Posted: 12/7/2016 2:59:57 PM EST
That's an awesome knife and gesture.

Tag to watch the sheath build.
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 3:01:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 3:46:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Nice knife.
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Lets hope the sheath matches its awesomeness
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 3:52:23 PM EST
Thanks for the kind words guys.


Hey Burnsy, I was thinking.  When I make big knives like that, or the bowie in my armory thread, people inevitably ask me "But what do you use that for?" 

You should make a youtube video, a la sham wow or slap chop with that knife.  "It opens soda pop!"  hack a can in half (and don't be a pussy do it the long way).  "It makes artisanal fire wood!" fur up a stick "It's great in the kitchen!"  chop through a cutting board on it's edge
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 3:59:30 PM EST
That's a big pig sticker.

Innovative use of materials for the handle scales. I hope the epoxy doesn't wear away too much, leaving the AL proud. It may wear perfectly and give a dimple effect.

Full convex on a big chopper should be pretty solid.
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 4:04:25 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/7/2016 4:05:09 PM EST
It's actually urethane.  It's about 80 shore D.  If you hand sand it with a soft backer the aluminum does get a bit proud but I don't think it will in use.
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 4:06:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Thanks for the kind words guys.


Hey Burnsy, I was thinking.  When I make big knives like that, or the bowie in my armory thread, people inevitably ask me "But what do you use that for?" 

You should make a youtube video, a la sham wow or slap chop with that knife.  "It opens soda pop!"  hack a can in half (and don't be a pussy do it the long way).  "It makes artisanal fire wood!" fur up a stick "It's great in the kitchen!"  chop through a cutting board on it's edge
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Ill figure something out...
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 4:08:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
And on top of that, he is a hell of a nice guy.
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He shares many of the same outdoor interests as myself. He also comes across as one hell of a nice guy.

One of the posters here I really need to have a beer or share some trail with. And he's in my state.
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 4:14:36 PM EST
OST
Link Posted: 12/7/2016 4:17:51 PM EST
Neat, this shit I dig.

Link Posted: 12/8/2016 10:27:48 AM EST
1st update done.
Link Posted: 12/8/2016 1:18:52 PM EST
Updated again with my mistakes...
Link Posted: 12/8/2016 1:43:43 PM EST
If I can make a suggestion, I would bevel both sides of the edges on the taco, then bone the edges of the taco portion of the sheath prior to gluing in the welt.  Then glue the welt proud like you did, and carefully trim it back to the boned edges, then just a little bit of boning on all 3 layers for a nice finished edge.

I'm no expert, in the 4-5 leather sheaths I've made that's just a step in the process I found to make overall finishing easier.
Link Posted: 12/8/2016 2:01:16 PM EST
May have to try my hand at this
Link Posted: 12/8/2016 2:04:12 PM EST
That's an awesome looking knife. Go chop a tree down with it.
Link Posted: 12/8/2016 2:10:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
If I can make a suggestion, I would bevel both sides of the edges on the taco, then bone the edges of the taco portion of the sheath prior to gluing in the welt.  Then glue the welt proud like you did, and carefully trim it back to the boned edges, then just a little bit of boning on all 3 layers for a nice finished edge.

I'm no expert, in the 4-5 leather sheaths I've made that's just a step in the process I found to make overall finishing easier.
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I have tried that method on a smaller scrap piece and thought about it...

well here is too a second go at it.
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 10:21:43 AM EST
Got the Sheath done.
It was a good learning experience and came out great (not perfect there are plenty of mistakes)


I am still going to add a pouch that will attach to the sheath in-between the two belt straps.
5" Wide
3" high
1.25" thick

Link Posted: 12/12/2016 10:35:12 AM EST
Nice work.

A guy I grew up with does some amazing stuff with leather and has built a pretty successful business out of MN. Check out Sagewood Gear if you're interested.
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 10:41:34 AM EST
Looks good, apparently making leather sheaths requires more tools than i thought.
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Looks good, apparently making leather sheaths requires more tools than i thought.
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I started with a basic kit form Amazon and then got extras from tandy leather (there is a store front here) the Tandy leather tools were of better quality then the ones from amazon but all of the are China made from what I have seen.

Its fun and time consuming.

and can get spendy real fast.
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 11:06:48 AM EST
I didn't think I would like the squared profile at all but that turned out nice!

I prefer a more traditional style but yours is easier for a beginner that's for sure.
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Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:
I didn't think I would like the squared profile at all but that turned out nice!

I prefer a more traditional style but yours is easier for a beginner that's for sure.
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Yeah I played around with cornering and rounding leather...not up to that yet.

I saw a lot of pictures with scout sheaths using square ends so I went with that.
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 1:10:43 PM EST
That is a damn fine looking knife and one hell of a sheath for it. You both seem talented.
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 1:46:52 PM EST
Nice work!  That turned out way better than my first leather sheath

I finally broke down and ordered a Tippman Boss sewing machine.  I'm not hand sewing another scrap of leather.  Sometimes the sheath takes me longer than the knife
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 2:24:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Nice work!  That turned out way better than my first leather sheath

I finally broke down and ordered a Tippman Boss sewing machine.  I'm not hand sewing another scrap of leather.  Sometimes the sheath takes me longer than the knife
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Yeah stitching alone was 5-6 hours...the pre-drilled holes were not big enough to pull the needle and thread through without pliers.

but that cost for a TB machine is

gonna make some leather saps next
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 2:50:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2016 2:51:23 PM EST by Kuraki]
I know it.  It's literally my single biggest investment in equipment for this knifmaking thing, since I built nearly everything else myself.

But hopefully being able to provide sheaths for every knife as a standard rather than an extra, and turning 2-3 hours of stitching into 1-2 minutes, it will pay for itself.  I actually don't mind leather working.  The designing and molding and coloring etc is enjoyable.  But stitching.  Fuck.
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 5:42:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2016 5:45:46 PM EST by BURN]
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
I know it.  It's literally my single biggest investment in equipment for this knifmaking thing, since I built nearly everything else myself.

But hopefully being able to provide sheaths for every knife as a standard rather than an extra, and turning 2-3 hours of stitching into 1-2 minutes, it will pay for itself.  I actually don't mind leather working.  The designing and molding and coloring etc is enjoyable.  But stitching.  Fuck.
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Yup the only non-fun part for me was the stitch time not necessarily the stitching itself but the time it takes...
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 10:37:24 PM EST
Now finished with a pouch

pouch holds and altoids can

can will contain fire starter "STUFF"

and sharpening stuff

once it all gets here...



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Link Posted: 12/15/2016 10:41:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 10:42:25 PM EST by Maersk]
Hell of a nice knife.... got kind of a yataghan thing goin on with the blade...
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 10:42:05 PM EST
That's kickass.  Nice work man!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 10:44:08 PM EST
I'm envious of your leather working skills
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 10:49:38 PM EST
That color sucks, do it over.




Awesome leatherwork!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 11:02:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
I'm envious of your leather working skills
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First time I made something that was not a kit...
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 11:03:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
That's kickass.  Nice work man!
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Only because I was inspired by your awesome knife work sir.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 11:04:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:
That color sucks, do it over.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle> Awesome leatherwork!
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Wife gotme a green kilt for Christmas need it to match my purse

Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:58:43 AM EST
Now folks
post pictures of your leather work....
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 6:51:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BURN:
Now folks
post pictures of your leather work....
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Wow that ended the thread

good work OP
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 7:36:14 AM EST
Very nice work!
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 8:33:52 AM EST
That turned out fantastic with the pouch on it! I'd like to see the contents of the can when you get it assembled.

Now you've almost inspired me to get a big knife and make my own sheath with possibles pouch.

Almost.
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Originally Posted By bansil:

Wow that ended the thread

good work OP
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I made these last night.  They're certainly not perfect but I'm learning.  That I got all 3 done in one evening is a testament to how much time my machine saves.  Hand stitching the best I could usually do was 1 sheath over 2 evenings after work.





Link Posted: 12/20/2016 9:13:56 AM EST
Very nice work!
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:

I made these last night.  They're certainly not perfect but I'm learning.  That I got all 3 done in one evening is a testament to how much time my machine saves.  Hand stitching the best I could usually do was 1 sheath over 2 evenings after work.

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Yeah if I start doing this to a much large quantity I will be getting a stitching machine.
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