Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Posted: 1/20/2013 1:45:42 PM EDT
Hey guys and gals,

I wrote a rather detailed piece on gun control and would like come constructive feedback on it before I release it to the unwashed, liberal masses .

I will warn you that it is extremely long and geared toward those not familiar with firearms and/or their laws. Please let me know of any errors or omissions.

Link intentionally left cold for now, password is 'herp derp': http://eudaimoniabygrace.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/a-few-thoughts-on-gun-control/

When it's finalized, I will post in here.

God bless America.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 6:28:18 AM EDT
[#1]
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 4:00:57 AM EDT
[#2]

I see I'm not the only one obsessing over this when I should be doing something else, only you've compiled yours in a really nice package.  
Strong work from what I've seen so far.  
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 4:10:39 AM EDT
[#3]
Good Work!
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:04:07 AM EDT
[#4]
Thank you.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:26:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Holy smokes that was a long read!  Very well done, however, it's unfortunate that the people who most need to read it won't.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:40:17 AM EDT
[#6]
Holy shit. That's a LOT of compiled data. Good job. I will read it as soon as I can. Thank you!
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:53:04 AM EDT
[#7]
I believe two other states besides AZ allow CCW without a permit - I may be wrong, but I think AK is one and VT the other.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:57:16 AM EDT
[#8]
holy fuck you wrote a dissertation!
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:57:50 AM EDT
[#9]
Brain dead libs. don't like facts...............
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:03:53 AM EDT
[#10]
Great job but youre preaching to the choir here. I'd be interested in what an educated rebuttal has to offer. I just really can't see the other side's point of view.

Maybe submit this in a hostile AO?
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:06:50 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Great job but youre preaching to the choir here. I'd be interested in what an educated rebuttal has to offer. I just really can't see the other side's point of view.

Maybe submit this in a hostile AO?


I posted it here so you guys and gals could use it on your friends and family who find themselves on the fence, or the liberals who love to quote Brady statistics to you.

If they want statistics, we'll give them statistics.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:13:26 AM EDT
[#12]
I did not read the whole thing, but  damn there are some good points there
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:19:14 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Holy smokes that was a long read!  Very well done, however, it's unfortunate that the people who most need to read it won't.



Bingo

they can only handle bumper sticker thoughts

Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:21:01 AM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:43:04 AM EDT
[#15]
Scroll, scroll, scrollscrollscroll...

I'll read it, I promise.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:45:04 AM EDT
[#16]
Long read, skimmed it, great job, lots of info to shut up the antis.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:51:04 AM EDT
[#17]
I like it but...

You do a great professional job of presenting the data in an intelligent manner replete with great referencing then every few paragraphs you lapse into a more comfortable paradigm that takes a slap at individuals or sections of the public overall. This ends up cheapening your argument in my opinion as you stoop down to a more "base" position versus keeping it neutral and professional like scientific research should be (it also displays a certain emtional context that you lambast at the very beginning).

An example would be something like this line:
"...but it starts to make some of these politicians look like they took one too many huffs from the nearest spray paint can."

The above is an emotional and derogatory argument against a segment of people who, while we may disagree with, never the less do have their own valid internal reasoning on this subject. What you are writing is basically attempting to sway someone from a progressive mindset versus someone who already agrees with what you say. If I were even a neutral person reading this and trying to keep an open mind like you ask in the beginning then little cheap shots sprinkled through out cheapen the argument and may even make me decide you have an intensely biased agenda and your arguments are worthless.

You cannot have it both ways- either be as neutral and professional as possible when presenting the data or be the pro-gun version of a Brady shill study which is chock full of emotional buttons.

Sorry if I am harsh but you asked for constructive criticism and the above is what really popped out at me.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:56:47 AM EDT
[#18]
Amazingly well done. This should be a research paper! I can only hope a few fence sitters and sheep actually read it and go "wow".

ETA: I Do agree with blackhawk on some of his points. I didn't finish it yet but trying to be as neutral as possible is ultimately the goal why showing how emotional reasoning is not the best reasoning.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:59:10 AM EDT
[#19]
Tag for finished product. Nice work so far.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:07:14 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I like it but...

You do a great professional job of presenting the data in an intelligent manner replete with great referencing then every few paragraphs you lapse into a more comfortable paradigm that takes a slap at individuals or sections of the public overall. This ends up cheapening your argument in my opinion as you stoop down to a more "base" position versus keeping it neutral and professional like scientific research should be (it also displays a certain emtional context that you lambast at the very beginning).

An example would be something like this line:
"...but it starts to make some of these politicians look like they took one too many huffs from the nearest spray paint can."

The above is an emotional and derogatory argument against a segment of people who, while we may disagree with, never the less do have their own valid internal reasoning on this subject. What you are writing is basically attempting to sway someone from a progressive mindset versus someone who already agrees with what you say. If I were even a neutral person reading this and trying to keep an open mind like you ask in the beginning then little cheap shots sprinkled through out cheapen the argument and may even make me decide you have an intensely biased agenda and your arguments are worthless.

You cannot have it both ways- either be as neutral and professional as possible when presenting the data or be the pro-gun version of a Brady shill study which is chock full of emotional buttons.

Sorry if I am harsh but you asked for constructive criticism and the above is what really popped out at me.


No, that's exactly the type of constructive criticism I was looking for, but no one responded to my post haha.

You make a good point. I was probably venting a little bit, as the whole situation and attempted laws have made me sick to my stomach.

*ETA: Updated thanks to great input from Blackhawk 101
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.
Top Top