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Posted: 1/7/2012 9:19:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2012 9:36:51 AM EDT by DMWalking]
I'm bored...so here are some stats for you.

According to Alexa.com

AR15.com has a three-month global Alexa traffic rank of 10,893. This site is based in the US. Visitors to the site spend about 44 seconds on each pageview and a total of eleven minutes on the site during each visit, and about 37% of visits to Ar15.com are bounces (one pageview only). Compared with the overall internet population, the site's audience tends to be users who are not college graduates; it also appeals more to men earning over $60,000 who browse from home.

Rank by Country
United States: 2,084

Argentina: 7,426

Thailand: 28,840

Canada: 33,922

France: 54,670
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:25:21 AM EDT
I'm confused. Is this why we can't have nice things?
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:28:11 AM EDT
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:28:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DMWalking:
I'm bored...so here are some stats for you.

According to Alexa.com...
AR15.com has a three-month global Alexa traffic rank of 10,893. This site is based in the US. Visitors to the site spend about 44 seconds on each pageview and a total of eleven minutes on the site during each visit, and about 37% of visits to Ar15.com are bounces (one pageview only). Compared with the overall internet population, the site's audience tends to be users who are not college graduates; it also appeals more to men earning over $60,000 who browse from home.

Rank by Country
United States: 2,084

Argentina: 7,426

Thailand: 28,840

Canada: 33,922

France: 54,670


that's decent stamina...
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:31:14 AM EDT
ya they know how much people make and their education? wtf?
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:31:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.


No, you probably don't want to know.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:34:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mryenko:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.


No, you probably don't want to know.


Bush's fault
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:35:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2012 9:39:17 AM EDT by HommieDaKlown]
Something tells me its inaccurate and incomplete. the only people with the true stats would be the site staff.

I would also say hits from the mobile site and the work site should be added to the total

Who knows where the of information about education and salary came from.

That being said I'd love to see some real stats about the site published. Like number of unique active members, bandwidth consumption, etc
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:36:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.


I highly doubt their salary data but their education estimate is certainly believable.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:37:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:38:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:38:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SoCalJBT:
I'm confused. Is this why we can't have nice things?


No, it just shows the French are (still) pussies.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:39:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.


OK, how do they get it from the IP?

Do service providers gather this stuff somehow?
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:44:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By SoCalJBT:
I'm confused. Is this why we can't have nice things?


No, it just shows the French are (still) pussies.


Viva la France!

Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:45:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.


OK, how do they get it from the IP?

Do service providers gather this stuff somehow?

They get it from end-users that install their toolbar. While their sample is biased since it is only by people dumb enough to install spyware and that typically use MSIE, but it is large.z
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:46:15 AM EDT
This place has great traffic for a gun board. Those numbers are fantastic. But arfcom isn't facebook.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:47:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.


OK, how do they get it from the IP?

Do service providers gather this stuff somehow?


You just geolocate IP addresses and match that to demographic data by location.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:47:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.


OK, how do they get it from the IP?

Do service providers gather this stuff somehow?

The IP is traceable to a general location (like zip code). There is a comprehensive database of demographic data based upon that locale.

Example:




Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:47:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:49:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

Because people tell them.

Alexa statistics are largely based on users who have the Alexa toolbar installed.

While it may not be representative of net users as a whole, it's a very accurate representation of Alexa users.

Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:51:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.


Why, by perusing the GD threads asking such things of course.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:51:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
I think that site is mostly bullshit.

Well, people spend a lot of time arguing on the internet about the usefulness / accuracy of Alexa.

Funny that those dipshits over at Amazon still continue to own them despite the fact that it's all bullshit. Amazon is just days from bankruptcy I hear due to these terrible business decisions.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:56:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I think that site is mostly bullshit.


well, so is this one, right?
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:58:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 9:59:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2012 10:02:09 AM EDT by Aimless]
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 10:01:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Aimless:
I think that site is mostly bullshit.

Well, people spend a lot of time arguing on the internet about the usefulness / accuracy of Alexa.

Funny that those dipshits over at Amazon still continue to own them despite the fact that it's all bullshit. Amazon is just days from bankruptcy I hear due to these terrible business decisions.


For realz?
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 10:06:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.


OK, how do they get it from the IP?

Do service providers gather this stuff somehow?

The IP is traceable to a general location (like zip code). There is a comprehensive database of demographic data based upon that locale.

Example:


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Eyesofsilver/demographbyIP.jpg



There are far too many variables at play here for me to accept you can take average population data for an area, and plant that over internet users. That could be like assuming an arfcommer in San Francisco supports Nancy Pelosi.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 10:09:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

Because people tell them.

Alexa statistics are largely based on users who have the Alexa toolbar installed.

While it may not be representative of net users as a whole, it's a very accurate representation of Alexa users.

Do you know anyone who would install an Alexa toolbar? I don't.

You think many people on this site are installing a toolbar that monitors their every internet move? People who won't answer the doorbell after dark?


Looking up my zipcode for demographics was fun though

You are making the incorrect assumption that most people are as smart as you, or as smart as the people you associate with.

You probably don't read your spam emails either, do you? Yet why does spam still exist? Because it works and it makes money for the spammers.



Link Posted: 1/7/2012 10:18:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

Because people tell them.

Alexa statistics are largely based on users who have the Alexa toolbar installed.

While it may not be representative of net users as a whole, it's a very accurate representation of Alexa users.

Do you know anyone who would install an Alexa toolbar? I don't.

You think many people on this site are installing a toolbar that monitors their every internet move? People who won't answer the doorbell after dark?


Looking up my zipcode for demographics was fun though

You are making the incorrect assumption that most people are as smart as you, or as smart as the people you associate with.

You probably don't read your spam emails either, do you? Yet why does spam still exist? Because it works and it makes money for the spammers.





Yet there is no grounds (that I know of) for assuming demographic data for people who respond to spam e-mail in any any equates to the overall demographics of those who receive it. Now, there may very well be such grounds - but I have not seen a credible argument or study to that effect yet.

Establishing that connection is what I am demanding - it is the crux of the matter here, and why I am curious as to methods.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 10:30:05 AM EDT
Percentage of whites = 87

Link Posted: 1/7/2012 11:57:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 11:57:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 12:11:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DMWalking:
I'm bored...so here are some stats for you.

According to Alexa.com

AR15.com has a three-month global Alexa traffic rank of 10,893. This site is based in the US. Visitors to the site spend about 44 seconds on each pageview and a total of eleven minutes on the site during each visit, and about 37% of visits to Ar15.com are bounces (one pageview only). Compared with the overall internet population, the site's audience tends to be users who are not college graduates; it also appeals more to men earning over $60,000 who browse from home.

Rank by Country
United States: 2,084

Argentina: 7,426

Thailand: 28,840

Canada: 33,922

France: 54,670

Isn't that supposed to be dividing by zero?
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 12:13:23 PM EDT
Do they know how much I touch myself while browsing here?

DO THEY?!?!
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 1:16:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

Because people tell them.

Alexa statistics are largely based on users who have the Alexa toolbar installed.

While it may not be representative of net users as a whole, it's a very accurate representation of Alexa users.

Do you know anyone who would install an Alexa toolbar? I don't.

You think many people on this site are installing a toolbar that monitors their every internet move? People who won't answer the doorbell after dark?


Looking up my zipcode for demographics was fun though

You are making the incorrect assumption that most people are as smart as you, or as smart as the people you associate with.

You probably don't read your spam emails either, do you? Yet why does spam still exist? Because it works and it makes money for the spammers.



Hey I know lots of dumb people!

I still suspect that people who read this site are less likely to download the Alexa toolbar than the average alexa toolbar downloader person, whoever that is, so the average Alexa toolbar guy is probably a little lower on the education and income level regardless of what site he browses, or maybe there are a bunch of really smart but computer ignorant people who would have that thing, I don't know, older people maybe?


I'd disagree to some level. Arfcommers are really cheap - and seen eager to download and install any free software that will save them a few bucks. Embed Alexa in a free antivirus - and a lot of Arfcommers would install it in a second.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 1:22:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2012 1:25:49 PM EDT by SouthEndXGF]
Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

Because people tell them.

Alexa statistics are largely based on users who have the Alexa toolbar installed.

While it may not be representative of net users as a whole, it's a very accurate representation of Alexa users.

Do you know anyone who would install an Alexa toolbar? I don't.

You think many people on this site are installing a toolbar that monitors their every internet move? People who won't answer the doorbell after dark?


Looking up my zipcode for demographics was fun though

You are making the incorrect assumption that most people are as smart as you, or as smart as the people you associate with.

You probably don't read your spam emails either, do you? Yet why does spam still exist? Because it works and it makes money for the spammers.



Hey I know lots of dumb people!

I still suspect that people who read this site are less likely to download the Alexa toolbar than the average alexa toolbar downloader person, whoever that is, so the average Alexa toolbar guy is probably a little lower on the education and income level regardless of what site he browses, or maybe there are a bunch of really smart but computer ignorant people who would have that thing, I don't know, older people maybe?



I'm going to go download the Alexa toolbar right now just to spite you.

ETA: do you maybe have a link as to where I can get it?

ETA2: it won't screw up my ask Jeeves toolbar, will it?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 1:23:33 PM EDT
interesting...
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 1:24:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I think that site is mostly bullshit.


Uneducated guesses at best.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 2:11:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Seansworth:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I think that site is mostly bullshit.


Uneducated guesses at best.


Link Posted: 1/7/2012 2:15:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2012 2:16:06 PM EDT by The_Macallan]



Compared with the overall internet population, the site's audience tends to be users who are not college graduates;


That's not a comparison.

Dumbasses.


Link Posted: 1/7/2012 2:38:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.


OK, how do they get it from the IP?

Do service providers gather this stuff somehow?

The IP is traceable to a general location (like zip code). There is a comprehensive database of demographic data based upon that locale.

Example:


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Eyesofsilver/demographbyIP.jpg



There are far too many variables at play here for me to accept you can take average population data for an area, and plant that over internet users. That could be like assuming an arfcommer in San Francisco supports Nancy Pelosi.

EXPcustom?
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:29:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
I wonder how they get some of that data - especially salary and education level.

They use demographic data based upon IP.


OK, how do they get it from the IP?

Do service providers gather this stuff somehow?

The IP is traceable to a general location (like zip code). There is a comprehensive database of demographic data based upon that locale.

Example:


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Eyesofsilver/demographbyIP.jpg



There are far too many variables at play here for me to accept you can take average population data for an area, and plant that over internet users. That could be like assuming an arfcommer in San Francisco supports Nancy Pelosi.

EXPcustom?


No, I actually think he probably does support Nancy Pelosi.
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