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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:26:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 5:35:00 PM EST by killswitch1982]
So the wife has OK'd me on getting a 1911. I have narrowed it down to a few choices and want you to help me decide what one to get. Please, do not suggest any other models or bands. Any personal background on the above choices would really help me!
Thanks!

Choice 1: S&W 1911 PD Gunsite



Choice 2: S&W 1911 PD Rail



Choice 3: SIG Nitrolon Rail



Choice 4: SIG XO
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:27:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 5:30:56 PM EST by ScotchBoy]
IBTP!!

ETA: I'm not helping you with those choices...ewww...
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:27:50 PM EST
Colt
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:27:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By ScotchBoy:
IBTP!!


+1
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:28:24 PM EST
Which brands you considering Killswitch?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:28:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:28:46 PM EST
SIG P220, way better than most 1911's under 2k.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:29:44 PM EST
There is a poll coming, right?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:30:36 PM EST
poll? que?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:30:40 PM EST
Sorry, my poll-fu is slow tonight.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:31:24 PM EST
Springfield.

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:32:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By killswitch1982:
Sorry, my poll-fu is slow tonight.


Don't worry, some of us can't seem to read the rules of the initial post...
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:38:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:41:35 PM EST
Don't know about the smith but have read some bad stuff about those sigs...
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:42:52 PM EST
[ 3 ] S&W Model SW1911PD Tactical
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:48:26 PM EST
Bump! Hit teh pole please!
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:52:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By killswitch1982:
Bump! Hit teh pole please!


you might need to add the "I like Pie" option. I cant vote with these.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 6:59:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By SGTCap:
where is the Wilson option?


See the new, improved, ribbed for your pleasure thread.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:48:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By gene5:

Originally Posted By DHSGMAN:
SIG P220, way better than most 1911's under 2k.




CRAP!!


I don't like SIG's in the least bit. I don't like the grip, I don't like the trigger.

I like 1911's and Glocks. I instantly adapt to either grip, and there's no arguing with a nice 3 pound, short, crisp pull of a 1911.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:50:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mxpatriot51:

Originally Posted By gene5:

Originally Posted By DHSGMAN:
SIG P220, way better than most 1911's under 2k.




CRAP!!


I don't like SIG's in the least bit. I don't like the grip, I don't like the trigger.

I like 1911's and Glocks. I instantly adapt to either grip, and there's no arguing with a nice 3 pound, short, crisp pull of a 1911.


SIG has a single action 220 now.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:59:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By killswitch1982:

Originally Posted By Mxpatriot51:

Originally Posted By gene5:

Originally Posted By DHSGMAN:
SIG P220, way better than most 1911's under 2k.




CRAP!!


I don't like SIG's in the least bit. I don't like the grip, I don't like the trigger.

I like 1911's and Glocks. I instantly adapt to either grip, and there's no arguing with a nice 3 pound, short, crisp pull of a 1911.


SIG has a single action 220 now.


Don't get me wrong, I think they are great guns. Accurate, reliable, etc. I just don't mesh well with them. Just didn't like them when I shot them.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:00:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Sorry...Unable to comply.

All choices are safe-queens. I wouldn't trust my life to ANY of them.

Get a Springer or Colt.


Wait, wait, wait -

You think a S&W PD is a safe queen but a Colt is a good street gun?

Did they spray this place while I was gone or something?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:07:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By 53vortec:

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Sorry...Unable to comply.

All choices are safe-queens. I wouldn't trust my life to ANY of them.

Get a Springer or Colt.


Wait, wait, wait -

You think a S&W PD is a safe queen but a Colt is a good street gun?

Did they spray this place while I was gone or something?


A "Colt or nothing" person.

They're funny.

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:10:38 PM EST
OK, I've owned a bunch of 1911'a and now own two, both of which work flawlessly. The rest were spotty in performance, had parts break, etc. ALL 1911'a are semi-custom in that they need some fitting of some parts to work well as well as having a certain percentage of parts fall within certain tolerances. Nature of the beast. Off the shelf, some will run flawlessly and some will never run right. Pick a design and weight class you like and commit to it. If you go with an alloy frame, I like SA's because they have the barrel ramp. Otherwise, the aluminum frame will get gouged up and eventually become a problem. If you shoot it a lot. If you are looking for a house gun the light rail, while sacrilage to some, is a great idea.

Since you are looking at some pretty pricey 1911's, I'd go for a semi-custom from a smaller shop who will be willing to really police the QC on your pistol. Someone mentioned Nighthawk and those look nice. Plenty of other small shops who do nice work as well and are really interested in making satisfied customers. I would insist on all forged and machined parts since the original design was built around that idea.

Lots of checkering will chew your hands up unless it is pretty fine. Flattened checking is better or serrations. Also, a lot if "improvements" like guide rods and so forth are really just a hassle. The original design worked fine.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:13:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By IDK:
OK, I've owned a bunch of 1911'a and now own two, both of which work flawlessly. The rest were spotty in performance, had parts break, etc. ALL 1911'a are semi-custom in that they need some fitting of some parts to work well as well as having a certain percentage of parts fall within certain tolerances. Nature of the beast. Off the shelf, some will run flawlessly and some will never run right. Pick a design and weight class you like and commit to it. If you go with an alloy frame, I like SA's because they have the barrel ramp. Otherwise, the aluminum frame will get gouged up and eventually become a problem. If you shoot it a lot. If you are looking for a house gun the light rail, while sacrilage to some, is a great idea.

Since you are looking at some pretty pricey 1911's, I'd go for a semi-custom from a smaller shop who will be willing to really police the QC on your pistol. Someone mentioned Nighthawk and those look nice. Plenty of other small shops who do nice work as well and are really interested in making satisfied customers. I would insist on all forged and machined parts since the original design was built around that idea.

Lots of checkering will chew your hands up unless it is pretty fine. Flattened checking is better or serrations. Also, a lot if "improvements" like guide rods and so forth are really just a hassle. The original design worked fine.


I disagree. I see tons of Les Baer's, Wilsons, and Nighthawks at matches. More often than not, they are the guns having malfunctions because they are so tight. With no slop at all, a small amount of friction causing gunk causes the gun to malfunction.

My vote goes to the Springfield. It's good overall gun from a good company, and I don't think the OP wants to spend 2 grand.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:18:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By killswitch1982:
Jeez...I didn't think I'd get flamed this hard.


You think this is being flamed? Jeez, try starting a thread about going to a furry convention and see what happens!

Why did you narrow your choices down to S&W and Sig?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:18:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By FishKepr:

Originally Posted By killswitch1982:
Jeez...I didn't think I'd get flamed this hard.


You think this is being flamed? Jeez, try starting a thread about going to a furry convention and see what happens!

Why did you narrow your choices down to S&W and Sig?


They felt the best to me.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:20:03 PM EST
Please be sure to hit my other thread on the subject.

ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=627604
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:28:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mxpatriot51:

Originally Posted By IDK:
OK, I've owned a bunch of 1911'a and now own two, both of which work flawlessly. The rest were spotty in performance, had parts break, etc. ALL 1911'a are semi-custom in that they need some fitting of some parts to work well as well as having a certain percentage of parts fall within certain tolerances. Nature of the beast. Off the shelf, some will run flawlessly and some will never run right. Pick a design and weight class you like and commit to it. If you go with an alloy frame, I like SA's because they have the barrel ramp. Otherwise, the aluminum frame will get gouged up and eventually become a problem. If you shoot it a lot. If you are looking for a house gun the light rail, while sacrilage to some, is a great idea.

Since you are looking at some pretty pricey 1911's, I'd go for a semi-custom from a smaller shop who will be willing to really police the QC on your pistol. Someone mentioned Nighthawk and those look nice. Plenty of other small shops who do nice work as well and are really interested in making satisfied customers. I would insist on all forged and machined parts since the original design was built around that idea.

Lots of checkering will chew your hands up unless it is pretty fine. Flattened checking is better or serrations. Also, a lot if "improvements" like guide rods and so forth are really just a hassle. The original design worked fine.


I disagree. I see tons of Les Baer's, Wilsons, and Nighthawks at matches. More often than not, they are the guns having malfunctions because they are so tight. With no slop at all, a small amount of friction causing gunk causes the gun to malfunction.

My vote goes to the Springfield. It's good overall gun from a good company, and I don't think the OP wants to spend 2 grand.


Hmmm. probably should have mentioned that the two I kept were a Colt and an SA. The Colt was a Kings redo of a Combat Commander and the SA was run through the custom shop (a V10). Both are now 100% after K's of rounds. Guessing that the small shops are willing to provide that kind of reliability if asked for. Both pistols are kind of loose but print fine at working range.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 8:33:51 PM EST
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