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Posted: 8/1/2005 10:10:02 AM EDT
From another forum:
Also listed on AHSA Board is "Jody Powell, Co-Chairman, AHSA Advisory Board" Jody Powell also served Jimmy Carter's Presidential Press Secretary and was his longtime friend and advisor even before Carter became Governor of GA. This "gun-rights" group is nothing more than a VPC wolf in hunter's clothing. They are all about trying to undermine the NRA and split the duck-hunters away from those "radical NRA kooks". SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THIS TROJAN HORSE "GUNRIGHTS" GROUP. |
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Check out their position on guns in the home for self-protection:
NOTHING about the 2-3 MILLION times a year firearms are used successfully in self-defense! What the FUCK kind of "gun-rights" organization would actually put BULLSHIT like that as their official position!? |
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Or this:
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Or this:
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The part in red tipped me off right away. Anytime I hear ANYONE talking about "rational" gun control, or "rational" gun policies, I know instantly that they are gun grabbers. The only rational gun control is NO gun control. |
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Or this:
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Yup. It sure is easy for them to tip their hand. Any "gun group" that quotes the Kellerman statistic is automatically disqualified from any credibility. |
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DAMN!
I just sent them a good chunk of my life savings last week! |
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It shows how fucking desperate these people are becoming.
Protection of Lawful Commerce Act passed. AWB sunset CCW in almost all the states (either shall or may issue) Crime rates dropping Democrats are getting pounded every time they try to run on the issue so they have now resorted to OUTRIGHT INFILTRATION of gun owners in order to push their agenda. And knowing how many Elmer Fudds out there that would GLADLY sell out anyone that owns anything but a double barreled shotgun or wood stocked bolt action "deer rifle" these asswipes actually might make some headway under the banner of "American Hunters" |
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This is designed to divide and destroy, this sight wants to divide the hunting guns guys from the military gun guys, then make the military gun guys look irrational.
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Woha..
These people are desperate. It's a good sign. Now we just need them to receive a "random" IRS audit.... Scumbags. |
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PLEASE!!! Tell me you are joking. |
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This is the all-too-familiar "Divide & Conquer" approach. VPC is now infiltrating the "gunowners" groups and WILL be instantly highlighted in every fucking media report whenever they need a "pro-gun" opinion in their stories. Their whole purpose is to undermine the NRA and make the NRA look like radical extremist gun-nuts and that THEY are the sane and rational voice of gun-owners to the sheeple. We MUST fight groups like this because they are a CANCER to us. They WILL be used by their accomplices in the media to replace the NRA as the "reasonable voice of American gunowners" |
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Here's what they say about .50 BMG:
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I'm both, hunting, and military gun guy, you can't devide me. |
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Looks like it could be a Dem run website/organization attempting to appear more "mainstream"
to gun owners. WHOIS for Huntersandshooters.com Registrant: dcs 600 Pennsylvania Ave SE suite 200 washington, District of Columbia 20003 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: HUNTERSANDSHOOTERS.COM Created on: 25-Apr-05 Expires on: 25-Apr-06 Last Updated on: 22-Jul-05 Administrative Contact: fryday, joshua [email protected] dcs 1225 I street suite 600 washington dc, District of Columbia 22005 United States (202) 365-7433 Technical Contact: fryday, joshua [email protected] dcs 1225 I street suite 600 washington dc, District of Columbia 22005 United States (202) 365-7433 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.VERTEX.NET NS2.VERTEX.NET http://dcscongressional.com |
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They are not our 800 pound gorilla, and won't be. The NRA will destroy them. They just keep pushing us to where we won't have our duty to retreat anymore.......
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www.dcscongressional.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=30
Check out the client list of DCS Congressional... Democrats, Labor, NEA!! Smells like crap, I'll put it on my site!! Eric |
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Basically they're a team of slick design techs who package websites and materials for Democrat candidates like Kennedy, Pelosi, Meehan, etc and left-leaning organizations like "AsbestosTruth.org". |
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Heheheh. Got to get up pretty early in the mornin' to fool gun nuts, people. |
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You think mentally ill people with a history of violent crime should have a right to carry guns with them in bars while they are drunk? It's definitely possible to have rational laws that restrict ownership and use of guns. |
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Heck yes! |
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Those fuckers should be locked up in the first place. One for being a violent criminal and two for being a violent mentally unstable person. |
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Damn liars! I got an AR6450 coming to my home not an AK, I already have 3 AK's |
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Entirely possible to have the pro-gun movement hijacked. Look what the homo's did to most of the Protestant faiths.
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Except if you believe in and adhere to the Constitution. |
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Us vs. them, the typical dem. strategy. |
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T_Mc, You definitely head the nail on the head with this one!
I checked out their website and they are for everydamn peice of legislation that the anti-gunners are looking for... You can even tell in their rhetoric that they are for "sporting" firearms only. IN SHEEPS CLOTHING... I wonder how many people have wasted their money joining this hoax... LB SPREAD THE WORD, EVERYONE ! |
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Don't be mad, guys! Be happy because the lib's position on guns is so weak and so strongly opposed by the vast majority of the population, that they have to stoop to stunts like this to make any headway. This is a sign that we are winning the battle.
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I don't give a flying rat-fuck if someone is carrying a gun... it's what they DO with it that counts. "Mentally ill"? If so bad that it impacts their ability to operate in society, they should be under care. "History of violent crime"? Why the fuck are they on the streets instead of locked up or executed. Sorry, your argument doesn't wash. You're trying to deny the rights of law-abiding citizens based on what someone else MIGHT do. This is the same bullshit "thinking" that got us in this mess in the first place. |
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Try and get an application with a postage paid return envelope.
Wrap up a brick in heavy paper. Glue envelope to package. Drop in USPS mailbox. |
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In recent years, extreme political positions purporting to support gun rights have jeopardized our sport and have hurt the image of responsible gun owners. Unless the sporting community can become unified behind an organization that fights for safe and responsible hunting and shooting practices and sensible gun ownership, future generations may be unable to participate in and enjoy the shooting sports. Americans who love the outdoors and the shooting sports deserve an organization that represents their views, avoids angry political rhetoric and delivers well thought out, rational programs and policy proposals." Infiltrate, sow disagreement, foment antagonism, instigate fingerpointing and provoke blame among gunowners then sit back and watch them devour themselves. Divide and conquer. You guys are being played like a Stradavarius. |
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Then please right your congressman and ask them to spend more money on treating the mentally ill.
18 year old kid robs a liquor store with a gun. He serves 20 years. Do you think he should be able to buy another gun when he gets out? I think he had his chance, and now he's lost his right to a gun.
Ok, lets take the argument a step further. The second amendment says nothing about guns - it refers to the right to keep and bear arms. A surface to air missile certainly counts as an arm. Why restrict the right of a law abiding citizen from walking into a Walmart and buying a SAM just based on what someone else MIGHT do? I own a lot of firearms. I'm a strong supported of the right of law abiding citizens to own arms. I just don't think that right is unlimited and unqualified. |
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If people are still a danger to society they should be incarcerated or executed. By your reasoning we should also restrict swords, spears, knives, bludgeons, teeth, bare hands, axes, large rocks, chainsaws, marital arts, metal bars, commercial cabling, gasoline, bad thoughts, cars, or any object that could be put to harmful use. However, the choice of weapon is not the common element; it is the person employing the weapon. |
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Let's all hope that nobody goes and starts signing up PETA members for this outfit & vice-versa...
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Maybe we should create a couple phony anti-gun groups and try to divide their side up even more?
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So just to clarify, do you really think that in major cities people should be allowed to carry firearms into night clubs and get drunk? |
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Well, at most ranges you will find that already to be the case. The "hunting only" guys (not hunters who also own EBRs) will flat tell you that they don't care if EBRs are banned as long as they leave the bolt action hunting rifles alone. They won't listen when you tell them that their "sniper rifles" are next. |
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With a samurai, we could. Maybe we can teach you to spell, at least. |
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That pretty much sums it up. |
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No, I expect them to be incarcerated. Laws should punish crime not prevent it. |
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The lows that liberals will stoop in order to force their way into power, never ceases to amaze me. Liars.
Unreal. |
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Yep, you are using a false premise to infer that the law alone currently prevents someone from doing it. What someone actually DOES should be in question, not what he COULD do. |
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