He's pro-gun but not pro-2nd Amendment, just like the NRA.

Don't really get the hate for Shapiro... He articulates conservative views well for the most part, and tours college campuses speaking to people who are getting a lot of leftist indoctrination otherwise.

He screwed up that interview though - Andrew Neil was playing devils advocate in an interview format we don't use in the states.  Shapiro possibly didn't do his homework - Neil is a conservative, he wasn't speaking on his own viewpoints.  I personally think the style sucks ass, but it is what it is.

How many times did he say Judeo-christian in the interview?

Lol, you serious dude? Ben did a fine job shoving that gotcha interview up that guy’s ass.

This right here.  And you wonder why the left is winning?

Wat? Is this another ‘mah bumpstocks’ bitch? Never have I heard Ben saying anything against the 2nd.

I don't know a lot about him, but agree he is usually on the right path on subjects.

What he does I don't believe is intellectually that difficult, but socially it is.  He just prepares in a manner that goes beyond surface level.  After that the smarmy attitude of liberals turns to anger.  At that point he can make them look foolish.

Why are you assuming the OP is conservative?

He is not for machine-gun ownership. Maybe you are like him? The 2A is about defending your life and liberty against tyranny and genocide not just about concealed carry against robbers and rapists.

I wouldn't have apologized if I was Ben

Fuck that guy with the BBC

I think he’s arrived at that point already

LOL, OP is a leftist commie

Sorry your girl lost dude

I probably agree with promo code a little more often than I disagree with him, but he's such an obnoxious little twit that I still can't stand him. Fuck Israel too.

European right wing is equal to American left wing. And to Europe, Your welcome that we exist to keep you safe.

I don't agree with Shapiro 100%, but the dude is intelligent, articulate and honest, and for the most part on our side. In no way did that old queen destroy Shapiro. That effected him zero.

He is furious about it

Watched the interview and I'll say this: If Shapiro is going to write books and talk about the decline of civility in the US he is going to need to have some answers on tap about his own role in it. People are going to ask this every time. The Daily Wire and Shapiro personally participate in this 'own the left' clickbait culture. It's not hard to explain why; In fact he could've discussed how the reward structure or ability to make money while being an independent commentator is based around that. You don't get the gigs on network without causing some drama, and you don't get the clicks without some hyperbole. I'm unsure if he just doesn't want to admit his role in it or if he is truly unaware. The interviewer was not out of line in my opinion and it would've made for an interesting but difficult conversation if Shapiro was willing to drop the 'i am always right' act and be honest.

Mr. Neil had an agenda to further.  He did so by asking questions (see above) stating that some anti-abortion legislation in Georgia is a return to the dark ages.

If it were a return to the dark ages, among other conditions the woman would be chattel property of a man, may not have consented to the sexual intercourse that led to the pregnancy, and had no say in whether to have an abortion or not.

Had Mr. Neil asked that question, that way, to me, I would have remoevd the microphone and left. And I am pro-choice.

The interviewer is mainstream right wing by even US standards. He could fit right into the fox lineup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Neil#Political_positions

Not a fan of nationalism for me but not thee Shapiro, but that style of interview is retarded. That was gotcha after gotcha with no actual policy or idea debate.

BBC is a hive of over educated, intellectually lazy, statist, brats, and always has been.

That is verbatim what the opponents to Shapiro's position are saying. It is in a number of headlines and articles. He was literally just giving Shapiro an option to respond on BBC to critics as their market doesn't often get unfiltered solid conservative voices. The interviewer is right wing as I said before. This was not a hard question. Shapiro dropped the ball.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/05/06/heartbeat-bills-attack-roe-v-wade-protections-talker/1117909001/

Ben Shapiro gets brutal lesson from BBC's Andrew Neil that ‘facts don't care about feelings’



Right-wing gadfly and ‘destroyer-of-leftists’ Ben Shapiro got a taste of his own medicine when he squared off with the BBC’s Andrew Neil, leaving the ace-debater cursing and calling off the interview.

Unfortunately for Mr. Shapiro, public debates are not often won based on celebrity status. This was particularly the case when being interviewed by Andrew Neil, whose signature ‘devil’s advocate’ style proved a bit too adversarial for the normally sharp-witted Shapiro on Friday.

“If you want to critique me, I don’t care, I don’t give a damn what you think of me since I’ve never heard of you,” Shapiro frothed, adding that he was not inclined to carry on the interview because of Neil’s “bad motives.”

Although Shapiro literally wrote the book on how to “debate and destroy leftists,” he seemed to have a lot more trouble handling a seasoned conservative.



If Shapiro had done his homework, he might have realized that Neil is known for conducting precisely this kind of interview, and that the sharp questions don’t even necessarily indicate disagreement in the British context. He nonetheless interpreted the grilling as sensationalist hostility, particularly when reminded of one of his own tweets from 2010 where he claimed that Palestinians like to “live in sewage” and “blow things up.”

At this point, Shapiro decided that the only possible explanation was that the deeply conservative and hawkish Neil was actually some kind of militant leftist.

If that wasn’t embarrassing enough, Shapiro then attempted to try to use his celebrity status in order to trounce his opponent, at which point the interview descended into an argument more appropriate for a high school lunchroom:

Neil in a rather dour tone responded that there are “not many bucks to be made on the BBC,” particularly considering that its a public utility. Shapiro, evidently flustered, then entered into a rather dramatic monologue before cutting the interview short.

Neil wryly responded thanking his guest for showing that “anger isn’t a part of American political discourse.”

Later in the day, Shapiro did realize his mistake and offered an apology of sorts… at least for mischaracterizing Neil’s position on abortion.



Despite the conciliatory tone, the resulting mockery and brutal take-downs across Twitter will undoubtedly give even Shapiro a run for his money.

Shapiro reacted to the ribbing by admitting defeat, after a fashion, by adding the interview to the list of "dumb stuff" he has done and agreeing that "it's Neil 1, Shapiro 0."

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The left dreams of having the media stranglehold that the BBC has over British subjects.   They are almost there, but not quite.

Not really.

European right is not that different to the American Right.  European right just doesn't focus on the same stuff as there are different priorities and pathways to the solutions they need. Conservatism does not necessarily have exactly the same priorities across the globe.  For example, we don't get too flustered about Israel/Palestine, abortion or religion, which for the US can be just some of the key areas of contention for American conservatives.

Europe - particularly the EU, is generally left wing and has been for some time....the con of socialism lite imposed slowly and almost imperceptibly has taken a huge toll.  The is beginning to change with some fairly big swings towards conservative politics - castigated by the left as "populism".

The UK is only European from a Geographical perspective.  Culturally it is very different picture, hence our considerable rift with the EU which led ultimately to Brexit.  Not that we dislike our European neighbours, but the idea of an EU superstate is like a dogshit sammich to us.

Shapiro is a clever guy. However, he failed to do his homework on Andrew Neil and got wrong footed because of it.  Once flustered, Neil nailed him down and Shapiro got angry, lost his cool and the interview went south.

Neil is Conservative, and is also a very good interviewer.  If you do not know your stuff and try to flimflam your way through it, he will eat you alive, whether you be of Right or Left political persuasion. His job is to be the devils advocate with everyone and he is very good at it.  He is easily capable of owning Shapiro with incredible ease, especially if Shapiro is unprepared.

With that in mind this was never going to be an interview where two conservatives chat about stuff and agree.  Neil is not there to affirm one political perspective over another but to challenge everyone fully, regardless of political views.

I do agree that the interview was heavily orientated around old tweets that Shapiro made.  This, to me, makes it dull and uninteresting. I would have expected way better from Andrew Neil, indicating that he hadn't done his usual homework either.  Tweets are expressions of opinion weighted with the emotions linked to a snapshots in time. The world moves on and emotions and opinions change.  Relying on old tweets for interview material is lazy if isolated from the context of the present day.

I get the impression that had the been a face to face interview where they had chance to meet and speak before hand it would have been far more interesting.  The idea that someone can pin on a microphone and jump into an interview of this nature with someone like Andrew Neil without doing their homework is probably not a good idea.

Whether it affects affects Shapiro or not?  I dunno.  I doubt it.  The left will shout about it for a while because they don't like Shapiro. until thy see Neil savage one of their lefty darlings, then he will be branded a biased tory bigot again.

This alone makes him worth his weight in gold.

Y'all should listen to his daily podcast for a week. He lays shit out pretty good when he's not being ambused.

To your first point. Yes, I agree.

The BBC has been the go-to source for Brits for many years - and for many years it was relatively impartial and responsible as a broadcaster.  Hence it;s rotation around the world as a first class broadcaster.

That stared to change in 1997 with the rise of Tony Blair.  When the Blair years kicked in, the left infested the BBC with left wing luvvies, guardianistas and rabid socialists who used the BBC as a publicly trusted platform to spread their propaganda.

Over the years the public have been asking WTF happened to the BBC.  Many stopped paying their licence fee (something most Brits had been happy to pay to fund the BBC as it had been see as an asset) so the BBC employed wannabe JBTs to go around and scare people into paying.

The situation has worsened as the BBC became entrenched in the hard left commentariat and Guardianista activist bubble that infests SW1. Now the BBC is openly mocked and people are telling them to shove their "licence fee" up their arse in droves.

Andrew Neil is barely tolerated in the BBC for his ability to savage lefties. He has been excluded as a contender to host a number of the flagship programmes the BBC runs on political debate.  The only reason he is still there is because when the BBC is accused of left wing bias, they can point to Neil say "but we have him".

To your second point.

Very few people are British subjects, and only under very particular circumstances. See here.  Nearly everyone with a British Passport is a British Citizen.   Every time you make reference to BritishSubjects as if to include everyone in the UK, you simply come across as an uneducated imbecile.

Alot like our CNN.  I have been accused of worse than being an Imbecile, I try to learn from each encounter though.   So theres that.

He's one of the good guys.

He has a 'Twit of the Year' look about him.

Where is the OP hiding?

Lol at underscores. Pathetic.

He has.  I believe he said as much in that interview.

It's highlighting a problem we have on the right side... we will absolutely infight and turn against a given pundit or candidate if they are not 100% in line with every single one of our own views.

Lefties seem to not give a shit - as long as the pundit/candidate in question will move the ball further to the left.

We're gonna be over here on the sidelines fighting viciously with each other because Candidate 1 isn't PERFECT for some of us, and Candidate 2 isn't PERFECT for the rest of us. We'll throw the whole game. We'll LOSE rather than just chill and support moving the ball TO THE RIGHT.

I totally disagree with the highlighted part.

Too many conservatives throw out the "you're just a leftist" as an insult to shut down further dialogue. It's like saying "You're just racists!" when losing an argument.

Andrew Weil, a long term hard right conservative for decades isn't by any stretch of the imagination, "a liberal" just because Shapiro says so. Shapiro is just butthurt he wasn't handed softball questions which is so common in US media when conservatives interview each other (a good example of this is Hannity).

It would be like Shapiro going on Crossfire decades ago and accusing William F Buckley Jr of being a leftists because of some tough questions.

Just getting so tired of the conservative "gatekeeping" where if someone doesn't like what you say, then you're not a "true conservative" and actually a liberal.

Fury 58 hates jews.  Nothing more than that.

So does trump

lol OP is wrong AF.

Oh I thought he was a Tory

OP knows that most people don't click the link and even fewer watch the whole thing. So he can claim whatever he wants.

He’s a Never Trumper. I don’t pay any attention to him.

That was my take as well, when I watched the interview yesterday.  Might have been more emotional than he should have been but we have all had bad days.

I am not a big fan of his.  He seems to argue guns from a point of ignorance, IMHO.

OP sad