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Posted: 10/31/2004 7:54:42 PM EDT
I was under the impression that the M-16 family was the most widely produced and had numerical superiority over the AK-47 family.

I don't recall just where I got this info from, probably here. Can someone set me straight?

Here's why I ask-

forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=83797&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 7:55:38 PM EDT
AK, I think AR is #2
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 7:56:23 PM EDT
I've gotta say the AK.

*We need a poll*
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 7:56:29 PM EDT
I don't actually know, but I would guess that there are more AKs.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 7:56:55 PM EDT
i would guess the AK47 is in use far more than the M16.
not even counting all the third world countries, you had the Chinese and Russians using it.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 7:57:14 PM EDT
Something like 50 million AKs out there. Not sure on M16 numbers.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 7:58:04 PM EDT
+1 for AKs
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 7:58:30 PM EDT
I wonder what number three is actually?
Mauser 98 or Nagant?
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:00:57 PM EDT
I think it goes....

AK Clones
AR-15 Clones
FAL Clones

If you include LEO, I'm sure the AR numbers are a lot higher.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:01:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
I think it goes....

AK Clones
AR-15 Clones
FAL Clones

If you include LEO, I'm sure the AR numbers are a lot higher.

higher than AK? no way.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:02:20 PM EDT
AK...
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:06:35 PM EDT
Think about this, how many countries produced large amounts of guns and what guns did they make? then which countries suffered horrible economical problems, creating a black market full of guns? The collapse of the USSR flooded the world with AK-47s.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:08:44 PM EDT
AK - 50 million


M16/AR15 - 30 million


As I recall. Definite edge for the AK & variants
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:09:30 PM EDT
AK by a landslide not even close, after that it probably a Fal or HK91/cetme variant
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:11:14 PM EDT
AK's 50,000,000++++ not even counting 74 variants
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:14:24 PM EDT
AK's all the way.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:17:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
I think it goes....

AK Clones
AR-15 Clones
FAL Clones

If you include LEO, I'm sure the AR numbers are a lot higher.

higher than AK? no way.



I kinda meant to say that the FAL and the AR might be close ( there's a reason its the right arm of the free world) and that the FAL's might be close to the AR, but not if you include LEO's.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:20:19 PM EDT
The FAL is a battle rifle...are we including all rifles or just assault rifles?
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:20:58 PM EDT
AK followed my M98, after that I'm not sure
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:23:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2004 8:28:34 PM EDT by Andreuha]
AK platform without a doubt. The SECOND most common, is where the real contest lies.

Edit: there is NO WAY that the AR platform is anywhere near #2. ONLY the USA and a couple of other western nations use them. Sure, there are the similar weapons that asians use, but they're still entirely different platforms (ie: Daewoo's). AR's just aren't the $50 AK's you can find all over any third world shithole (same goes for WW2 leftover handouts like the massively stockpiled weapons like the Mauser types would probably be #2.).
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:06:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:08:45 PM EDT
If you are talking about in the world, AK.

If you are talking about in the US, AR.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:14:54 PM EDT
Well, the AK is a much better gun...
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:24:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2004 10:26:12 PM EDT by DzlBenz]
A guy I know in Egypt had a relative in the Maadi factory. He told me that his uncle told him that for about 6 years, they produced some thing like 1,000 AK variants a day. That's 2 million or so right there. Even if you reduce that by the Egyptian exaggeration factor by 50%, you're still at a million, and Egypt wasn't even a big consumer/trans-shipper of the damn things. They can be had for $30-$50 in certain parts of various suqs, but ammunition is pretty scarce. If I have to do any considerable time over there again in the future, I'm going to try to arrange a shipment of Wolf to myself.

Also, in 10 years of travel to the Middel East, I've never seen an AK74 variant in Egypt. Hmm.

ETA: Damn PHAROAH smilie still busted!
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:29:53 PM EDT
I would have to go with the Red Ryder being number one.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:31:38 PM EDT
AK hands down. Millions upon Millions
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:33:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:44:14 PM EDT
AKs hands down. No way in hell does the AR family even come close. My best guess for the #2 spot would be between the Mauser 98's and the Mosin-Nagant's.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:51:13 PM EDT
I has to be the AK
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 11:21:32 PM EDT
AK out #s Ars by ahuge #

there are between 80 and 100 MILLION AKs (and varients) made worldwide
probably less than 20 million Ars (and varients)

h/w the AR smokes the AK as far as overall 'best'
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:38:37 AM EDT
Discovery (UK) had a program about guns the other night, they said 250 million AKs so far. I dont know about this specific fact but the rest of the stuff they said was true.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:48:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:59:01 AM EDT
No one knows how many AKs were(are)produced!All I know is,turn on the news at 6,and within 5 min., there will be an AK making an apprearance.Last nite,saw a bunch of African troops getting off an A/C in the Sudan,what were they carrying,AKs of course.
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